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Our New World appreciation thread
« on: February 02, 2016, 08:53:30 AM »
I nominate myself to start this thread. I love this song. Dream Theater has never had a shortage of songs with an epic feel. However, Our New World just gives them a TRIUMPHANT ANTHEM. It's short, very singable, does not have a long instrumental to break the triumphant vibe, and the lyrics and music both exude a very positive feeling. It's my music before I start my class. :lol

For me, it is like Van Halen's Jump or Journey's Don't Stop Believing. Not necessarily the artist's best work, but the song I would listen to to lift my spirits up.

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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 09:22:00 AM »
Agreed. It's a great song on its own, but totally triumphant within the context of the story. I can actually picture standing up and cheering at the live show during this moment - hopefully no one gives me strange looks...

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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 09:23:30 AM »
One of the highlights on the album, for me.
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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 09:27:42 AM »
I nominate myself to start this thread. I love this song. Dream Theater has never had a shortage of songs with an epic feel. However, Our New World just gives them a TRIUMPHANT ANTHEM. It's short, very singable, does not have a long instrumental to break the triumphant vibe, and the lyrics and music both exude a very positive feeling. It's my music before I start my class. :lol

For me, it is like Van Halen's Jump or Journey's Don't Stop Believing. Not necessarily the artist's best work, but the song I would listen to to lift my spirits up.

Yeah, actually, that is a really good take.  I agree.  And as I posted a week or so ago, the chorus may be the biggest ear-worm the band has ever written.
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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2016, 09:35:35 AM »
Just realized that Savior In The Square and Our New World are the same riffs....  :facepalm:

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2016, 09:39:26 AM »
Just realized that Savior In The Square and Our New World are the same riffs....  :facepalm:

How did I not notice that before

The only reason I noticed it is because I saw someone mention it in another thread :lol

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2016, 09:42:15 AM »
I also find the song rather reminiscent of "The Way It Used To Be," which I think is a totally underrated gem.

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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2016, 09:46:20 AM »
Yes, it is fantastic.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2016, 09:47:45 AM »
Killer riff, that is actually harder to play than it sounds. JP is so good at taking simple ideas and adding a lot of ornamentation to make them more interesting.

I read in his Guitar World interview that he was going for a Van Halen-esque guitar tone and I think he surpassed his goal! Reminiscent of Jump or Panama, but still unique and awesome.

Rhythmically this is also typical of DT - deceptively simple. That last bar of 7/8 throws me off sometimes. I think that's the reason why sometimes a few vocal lines in this song sound "abrupt" for lack of a better word, but JLB pulls it off astonishingly well!  :metal

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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2016, 09:48:47 AM »
It's funny that at first everyone was saying how great it was, then everyone turned on it saying how overrated it was, so I'm glad to actually have an appreciation thread for it, because I still absolutely love it. :lol

It reminds me of that About to Crash upbeat rock song vibe, which instantly drew me to it. I like the rockier riff reprisal of the Saviour in the Square intro, and it's got perhaps the most general lyrics of the album that work well out of context, which makes it a great anthem in its own right.
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2016, 09:53:07 AM »
Best "song" on TA :metal

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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2016, 09:53:36 AM »
Why "song"? It's a song. :lol They're all songs.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2016, 10:00:45 AM »
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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2016, 10:15:56 AM »
You know what bit is cool? Just before the 3 minute mark coming out of the guitar solo when the guitar plays the one note version of the riff, and the bass comes in doubling it, then outro chorus.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2016, 10:23:16 AM »
You know what bit is cool? Just before the 3 minute mark coming out of the guitar solo when the guitar plays the one note version of the riff, and the bass comes in doubling it, then outro chorus.

Glorious moment. Applauded John Myung for that.


On, another note, Gabriel, play the music for us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=11m32s&v=AEorYSfUIBo

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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2016, 10:36:09 AM »
I love this song. Although, lyrically, the chorus is kind of bad since every line ends with "world", but in the context of the song it works. Great guitar solos too!

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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2016, 10:39:35 AM »
You know what bit is cool? Just before the 3 minute mark coming out of the guitar solo when the guitar plays the one note version of the riff, and the bass comes in doubling it, then outro chorus.

That moment is a bit odd. Sounds like a bit of a stumble.

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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2016, 10:45:06 AM »
Reading the OP and some of the posts in this thread I begin to see why people think this song is special, I like it but I don't share that appreciation for the 80's mainstream rock arena anthem Queen/Journey folksy sing along mode.
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2016, 10:46:42 AM »
I love how Faythe and Gabriel essentially adopt Xander and the lyrics fully embrace it. I bet this will particularly be a character high point for Faythe in the context of a novel or a play.

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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2016, 10:55:17 AM »
Best song on the album, by a solid margin. It's care-free, and deceptively simple songwriting. Great performance by James.
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2016, 10:57:47 AM »
This song is great. I can definitely hear the Van Halen type vibe, but when I first heard it I was reminded of a Mark Tremonti/Creed vibe. Love the chorus, too. That sounds like something I've heard before but can't put my finger on it at the moment.
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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2016, 11:07:46 AM »
Loved this song. JP really shines in this one.

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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2016, 11:09:16 AM »
I love it! Great song from start to finish! The VH vibe is gorgeous, as is the singing.

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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2016, 12:46:57 PM »
I get a Kings X vibe, anyone else?
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2016, 01:13:30 PM »
1st verse gets to me every time. Very touching song.

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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2016, 01:37:52 PM »
I get a Kings X vibe, anyone else?
Came here to say this. Yes. Very much so. Like something off of one of their late 80's, early 90's albums. Self titled? Dogman? maybe? Something around that area. 

But officially throwing my hat in as this being my favorite song on this album. Such an amazing vibe from it. JP's riff gives me goosebumps.

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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2016, 02:05:51 PM »
I never got a King's X vibe from it.  But if I had to vote whether it reminds me more of King's X or Van Halen, I would say King's X.  I don't get people saying it's got a VH vibe.  And that isn't a knock on Van Halen at all.  Heck, they were one of my most-played bands when I was in high school.  I just don't get a VH vibe from this song.
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2016, 02:06:27 PM »
I'd say it has Eddie's FUCK album tone.
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2016, 02:11:18 PM »
I never got a King's X vibe from it.  But if I had to vote whether it reminds me more of King's X or Van Halen, I would say King's X.  I don't get people saying it's got a VH vibe.  And that isn't a knock on Van Halen at all.  Heck, they were one of my most-played bands when I was in high school.  I just don't get a VH vibe from this song.

I'd say it has Eddie's FUCK album tone.

Nah, Ty Tabor's tone all the way. A bit more rich and modern... but still.  With that little slide chop-y walk in the phrasing?

This song in particular is what it reminds me of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty_HqrY_k7I
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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2016, 02:22:50 PM »
This song in particular is what it reminds me of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty_HqrY_k7I

Oh, okay.  Yeah, now that you point out that particular song, I can see it.  Good catch.
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Re: Our New World appreciation thread
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2016, 02:24:45 PM »
it will be a world hit single !

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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2016, 03:00:17 PM »
Yea this should be a single and video for sure.  Even outside of the story, it's still a positive song. 
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2016, 04:05:48 PM »
The Van Halen comparison I made is not really about the sound or style of the song, but more of this song being anthemic, which VH excelled in.

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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2016, 06:40:56 PM »
yeah...

Been eargasming over this song all evening. In headphones with it cranked all the way up.

Last song to do this for me was Count of Tuscany. There are other songs on this release... but dis one is mine.  :heart

That riff... that drop into the chorus.. the harmony. Unf~ yes. Thank you.

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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2016, 06:46:14 PM »
Stupid question time. Is the first solo guitar or keys?