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Offline RaiseTheKnife

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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1120 on: January 31, 2016, 08:50:39 PM »
Quote from: Woodworker1 on January 31, 2016, 06:04:42 PM
My wife generally doesn't like DT.  I have to force her or bribe her to let me play DT in the car.  Not anymore!  She really likes The Astonishing (as do I). 

Try it out on your wife or girlfriend.

So glad I bought that extra ticket for my girlfriend. 
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« Reply #1121 on: January 31, 2016, 08:57:33 PM »
Quote from: Progmetty on January 31, 2016, 08:37:22 PM
Why did Gabriel tell his brother that the NOMAC's were down in Moment of Betrayal?

Because when the NOMACS are down, he could practice his gift of music. He's also basically informing his brother that he is meeting Nafaryus as arranged by Faythe, which was in the lyrics to Road to Revolution:

"He only sees what he desires to see
It took a while but finally he agreed
Though everything did not turn out as planned
If life's a risk
It's worth a chance
I know where there is faith
There's always hope

They'll meet beneath the stars at Heaven's Cove
The ghosts of yesterday
Once filled the lavish stage
Taking our first step down a new road"
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1122 on: January 31, 2016, 09:01:12 PM »
Do we know that the NOMAC's occasionally powered down?! Do we know Gabriel only sang in their absence?! This is new to me if so.
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« Reply #1123 on: January 31, 2016, 10:12:04 PM »
Quote from: Progmetty on January 31, 2016, 09:01:12 PM
Do we know that the NOMAC's occasionally powered down?! Do we know Gabriel only sang in their absence?! This is new to me if so.

I think music can not be played when the NOMACs are operating because they emit mind-numbing noises.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1124 on: January 31, 2016, 10:27:42 PM »
Quote from: Woodworker1 on January 31, 2016, 06:04:42 PM
My wife generally doesn't like DT.  I have to force her or bribe her to let me play DT in the car.  Not anymore!  She really likes The Astonishing (as do I). 

Try it out on your wife or girlfriend.

My wife wouldn't last 30 seconds into the overture!  :\
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« Reply #1125 on: January 31, 2016, 10:33:46 PM »
THIS WAS "PHONED IN"???  Wow.  I just can't imagine even thinking that.  I CAN say that about ADTOE and DT12, but this is too monumental to even consider it.

I'd like to see another band try to put something like this together in the future.  Let me know how it turns out!   :lol
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« Reply #1126 on: January 31, 2016, 10:34:40 PM »
Would any of these songs get played on the radio?  I can imagine Our New World being popular.
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« Reply #1127 on: January 31, 2016, 10:37:41 PM »
"The very soul of what was once real music is now lost in a digital quagmire of emotionless sonic madness."  Sure this isn't applying to 2016??? haha
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« Reply #1128 on: January 31, 2016, 10:43:19 PM »
Quote from: dparrott on January 31, 2016, 10:33:46 PM
I CAN say that about ADTOE and DT12
You could, and meanwhile I'd say those are 2 of their all-time best albums. Honestly, I can't think of any of their albums as a whole that fit that category (even the ones I don't really like such as SC and TOT).
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« Reply #1129 on: January 31, 2016, 10:58:50 PM »
Who said this album is phoned in?   Curious as I don't remember hearing that.  This was clearly an extremely ambitious effort like it or not.
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« Reply #1130 on: January 31, 2016, 11:04:52 PM »
Just read the back story on the website and started tearing up during Act 2!  :'(  Well written.
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« Reply #1131 on: January 31, 2016, 11:31:09 PM »
Am I the only one who wishes James would do his maniacal laughter at the end of Lord Nafaryus after "Yes we shall see" ? :lol
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1132 on: January 31, 2016, 11:37:22 PM »
I was reading the lyrics while listening and it made for a better experience.

Our New World is easily my favorite song.
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« Reply #1133 on: January 31, 2016, 11:40:44 PM »
Sorry if this was already brought up but it is a long thread.

The X Aspect
Incredible Hulk TV end theme

I'm not saying they are the same, just that X Aspect made me think of the Hulk theme so much that it is the "Hulk" song for me now.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1134 on: January 31, 2016, 11:44:36 PM »
Quote from: Calvin6s on January 31, 2016, 11:40:44 PM
Sorry if this was already brought up but it is a long thread.

The X Aspect
Incredible Hulk TV end theme

I'm not saying they are the same, just that X Aspect made me think of the Hulk theme so much that it is the "Hulk" song for me now.
I love the Incredible Hulk theme. I definitely hear the similarity with the first few chords/melody. That being said, it's a pretty simple melody, so I totally see how someone else would have come up with a similar note choice.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1135 on: January 31, 2016, 11:51:21 PM »
"Brother can you hear me
I am just a man
Known across the desert
Beyond the shadows in the sand"  ::)
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1136 on: February 01, 2016, 12:25:36 AM »
Guys, you've already said so many things that I don't know what else I can add...
Just let me say that I really love this album and, maybe it's too early, but at this moment I'd put it in the top 3!!! :metal
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« Reply #1137 on: February 01, 2016, 12:26:39 AM »
Quote from: JMSE on January 31, 2016, 04:34:21 PM
Anybody else in love with JP's solo in "When Your Time Has Come" ? Such a melodic moment. :)

I love that part!
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« Reply #1138 on: February 01, 2016, 12:43:59 AM »
Quote from: Progmetty on January 31, 2016, 08:37:22 PM
Why did Gabriel tell his brother that the NOMAC's were down in Moment of Betrayal?

I've got a feeling that it's another mistake in the lyrics boklet. It makes much more sense if Arhys is the one singing the first two verses, and gabriel the third. That makes it more like a conversation.
Arhys is nervous and hasty in his desicions, and desperatley tells Gabriel there's no time to loose. The parts sounds very much like the talk of a militia leader, and not that of a musical artist.
Then the third verse is Gabriels response to that, noting that his brother was acting very strange.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1139 on: February 01, 2016, 12:54:29 AM »
I thought it made sense because Arhys is about to betray Gabriel, hence being nervous and on edge. Gabriel has a plan, but Arhys has one of his own.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1140 on: February 01, 2016, 01:22:12 AM »
Quote from: thosava on February 01, 2016, 12:43:59 AM
Quote from: Progmetty on January 31, 2016, 08:37:22 PM
Why did Gabriel tell his brother that the NOMAC's were down in Moment of Betrayal?

I've got a feeling that it's another mistake in the lyrics boklet. It makes much more sense if Arhys is the one singing the first two verses, and gabriel the third. That makes it more like a conversation.
Arhys is nervous and hasty in his desicions, and desperatley tells Gabriel there's no time to loose. The parts sounds very much like the talk of a militia leader, and not that of a musical artist.
Then the third verse is Gabriels response to that, noting that his brother was acting very strange.

It's not a mistake because that information given by Gabriel of the meeting with Nafaryus (as arranged by Faythe in Road to Revolution) is the "secret sold" by Arhys to Daryus.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1141 on: February 01, 2016, 01:25:51 AM »
Did anyone get Faythe's theme in The Walking Shadow (When you hear Daryus' walking before accidentally stabbing Faythe)? You hear a choir faintly humming her theme. It's so eeriely done and subtle. And it made one of my favourite songs on it even better.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1142 on: February 01, 2016, 02:42:20 AM »
Quote from: The Astonished on February 01, 2016, 01:25:51 AM
Did anyone get Faythe's theme in The Walking Shadow (When you hear Daryus' walking before accidentally stabbing Faythe)? You hear a choir faintly humming her theme. It's so eeriely done and subtle. And it made one of my favourite songs on it even better.

I don't think it is so subtle, it was the hint that the walking shadow is Faythe.
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« Reply #1143 on: February 01, 2016, 03:00:17 AM »
Really? I always thought The Walking Shadow would refer as Daryus' nickname because of Arabelle's line in A Life Left Behind. Thought it suited him in a badass way.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1144 on: February 01, 2016, 03:09:15 AM »
I have no idea what the story is. :lol

I've just been enjoying the music and vocals. I haven't been paying attention to the story at all.

Now I finally have the CD - I can read the lyrics and the song 'planations on the astonishing site :)
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1145 on: February 01, 2016, 03:12:19 AM »
Quote from: Pragmaticcircus on January 31, 2016, 11:51:21 PM
"Brother can you hear me
I am just a man
Known across the desert
Beyond the shadows in the sand"  ::)

Funny, I have actually been humming that specific mash-up all morning, and was doing so while scrolling and seeing your post.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1146 on: February 01, 2016, 03:15:42 AM »
Quote from: thosava on February 01, 2016, 12:43:59 AM
Quote from: Progmetty on January 31, 2016, 08:37:22 PM
Why did Gabriel tell his brother that the NOMAC's were down in Moment of Betrayal?

I've got a feeling that it's another mistake in the lyrics boklet. It makes much more sense if Arhys is the one singing the first two verses, and gabriel the third. That makes it more like a conversation.
Arhys is nervous and hasty in his desicions, and desperatley tells Gabriel there's no time to loose. The parts sounds very much like the talk of a militia leader, and not that of a musical artist.
Then the third verse is Gabriels response to that, noting that his brother was acting very strange.
I don't think so. Nafaryus presumably powers down the NOMACs to give Gabriel and Faythe the chance to speak/sing, and Gabriel tells Arhys that. All makes sense as is.
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1147 on: February 01, 2016, 03:24:56 AM »
From DT website:

"Recognizing his son’s captor to be Prince Daryus and keeping X’s safety in mind, he immediately withdraws any efforts to apprehend the prince and instead asks him what he wants. Daryus makes him an offer that will put Arhys in an extremely complicated and life altering position…If Arhys delivers Gabriel to him, Prince Daryus will in return guarantee the safety, protection and prosperity of Xander for the rest of his life..."

Shouldn't the word "Arhys" appearing in bold above be replaced by "Xander"?
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« Reply #1148 on: February 01, 2016, 03:28:56 AM »
Quote from: Moor on February 01, 2016, 03:24:56 AM
From DT website:

"Recognizing his son’s captor to be Prince Daryus and keeping X’s safety in mind, he immediately withdraws any efforts to apprehend the prince and instead asks him what he wants. Daryus makes him an offer that will put Arhys in an extremely complicated and life altering position…If Arhys delivers Gabriel to him, Prince Daryus will in return guarantee the safety, protection and prosperity of Xander for the rest of his life..."

Shouldn't the word "Arhys" appearing in bold above be replaced by "Xander"?

Reading it again ... I am wrong ... it should be Arhys... Sorry  :blush
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1149 on: February 01, 2016, 03:42:47 AM »
So, making use of the Best Songs on TA thread, I tallied which songs showed up the most and listened to the top ten or so.

They were ok.
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« Reply #1150 on: February 01, 2016, 04:00:31 AM »
Life imitates art.


My CD was THREE DAYS late :lol
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« Reply #1151 on: February 01, 2016, 04:28:14 AM »
After a first listen last Friday, with headphones and booklet, I'm now trying a casual listen. It's a very good album, but still way too much to digest. I don't even know a fifth of the album. Most of it feels like new material, though it's my second listen.
I'm gonna need another 10 listens before I can make my mind up.
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« Reply #1152 on: February 01, 2016, 04:49:40 AM »
I just hope people don't dismiss TA as "too much to digest" this early into the digesting process. The very best albums and pieces of music don't reveal everything immediately. You still find little moments you never spotted before, sometimes years after your first listen.
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« Reply #1153 on: February 01, 2016, 04:52:05 AM »
Quote from: RoeDent on February 01, 2016, 04:49:40 AM
I just hope people don't dismiss TA as "too much to digest" this early into the digesting process. The very best albums and pieces of music don't reveal everything immediately. You still find little moments you never spotted before, sometimes years after your first listen.

Oh yeah, totally. A couple of my favorite albums ever are double albums. I'm looking forward to the process of digesting
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Re: *Official* The Astonishing discussion thread
« Reply #1154 on: February 01, 2016, 04:52:13 AM »
Quote from: RoeDent on February 01, 2016, 04:49:40 AM
I just hope people don't dismiss TA as "too much to digest" this early into the digesting process. The very best albums and pieces of music don't reveal everything immediately. You still find little moments you never spotted before, sometimes years after your first listen.

I've give it plenty of chance to digest, I just didn't like the flavour of a lot of it. :P
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