Author Topic: Armored Saint - "Win Hands Down" (Read 11714 times)

TAC · « **Reply #105 on:** October 23, 2020, 07:28:37 PM »

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on September 11, 2020, 10:23:51 AM

Quote from: jjrock88 on September 11, 2020, 10:14:16 AM
No doubt, all the women were at the Bon Jovi show.

Speaking of John Bush, I think I’ve heard before that he was considered for the lead singer of Metallica in the early 80s?

He was asked by Jon Zazula, who then managed Metallica, and turned it down because he wanted Armored Saint, the band he formed with his high school friends, to succeed. By the time Anthrax asked him to join, he knew Armored Saint wouldn't go much further, so he decided to join them.

I remember reading a magazine article when SOS was released that SOS was going to be a make or break album. They knew that if it did not do well, the band would not likely not survive.

It basically turns out to be their best album, which is amazing coming off the heels of Dave's death.

RodrigoAltaf · « **Reply #106 on:** October 23, 2020, 07:53:03 PM »

Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2020, 07:28:37 PM

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on September 11, 2020, 10:23:51 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on September 11, 2020, 10:14:16 AM
No doubt, all the women were at the Bon Jovi show.

Speaking of John Bush, I think I’ve heard before that he was considered for the lead singer of Metallica in the early 80s?

He was asked by Jon Zazula, who then managed Metallica, and turned it down because he wanted Armored Saint, the band he formed with his high school friends, to succeed. By the time Anthrax asked him to join, he knew Armored Saint wouldn't go much further, so he decided to join them.

I remember reading a magazine article when SOS was released that SOS was going to be a make or break album. They knew that if it did not do well, the band would not likely not survive.

It basically turns out to be their best album, which is amazing coming off the heels of Dave's death.

Triumph over adversity, right? Unfortunately, it wasn't successful enough to keep the band together then. But man, did they come back with a bang!!!! They've been on quite a roll since they reformed. The only album I don't think is 100% great is La Raza, and even that one has great moments. Loose Cannon and Left Hook from Right Field are two great songs from La Raza. I just find it quite uneven in quality, compared to Revelations, Win Hands Down and Punching the Sky.

TAC · « **Reply #107 on:** October 23, 2020, 07:57:35 PM »

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 23, 2020, 07:53:03 PM

Triumph over adversity, right? Unfortunately, it wasn't successful enough to keep the band together then. But man, did they come back with a bang!!!! They've been on quite a roll since they reformed. The only album I don't think is 100% great is La Raza, and even that one has great moments. Loose Cannon and Left Hook from Right Field are two great songs from La Raza. I just find it quite uneven in quality, compared to Revelations, Win Hands Down and Punching the Sky.

Yeah, that's fair. But honestly, I may take it over Revelations.

TAC · « **Reply #108 on:** October 23, 2020, 08:21:04 PM »

Realized I hadn't posted these pics. Some great shots of Dave.

February 15, 1988
The Living Room
Providence RI

Aftermath

NIB on top of the speakers!

EPICVIEW · « **Reply #109 on:** October 24, 2020, 12:07:51 PM »

Quote from: TAC on October 23, 2020, 08:21:04 PM

Realized I hadn't posted these pics. Some great shots of Dave.

February 15, 1988
The Living Room
Providence RI

Aftermath

NIB on top of the speakers!

sweet pics bro,,,, good times the best

TAC · « **Reply #110 on:** October 25, 2020, 03:29:38 PM »

Thanks, bro!

Apparently there's an Armored Saint movie coming. Here's the trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNBcqE0ZpTc

It's probably due to me not paying attention, but I noticed Bill Metoyer's name in the credits on the album. I haven't seen his name in years.
Here's an interview he did about the new AS album. Interesting how they record..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUlG3N53QAM

TAC · « **Reply #111 on:** October 25, 2020, 08:15:38 PM »

Starting to really dig into this album. John Bush proves once again why he is my favorite lyricist.

In Missile To Gun:
"If you take this weapon away
The advantage goes away
It's just man versus man
Fisticuffs might lose a tooth
Then hit the bar make a toast and salute
Celebrate the truce

If we take these weapons away
And the megalomaniacs away
It's just mano y mano
Bloodied beaten make it a game
And we could both agree to share the blame
Reassure that we're sane"

TAC · « **Reply #112 on:** October 25, 2020, 08:52:15 PM »

Doing some Armored Saint youtubing tonight.

Dynamo 1989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQwKmHrh3tQ&t=1s

Great footage, especially of Dave, who sadly had only 9 months to live after this. 26. Too fucking young.

I'll always remember Dave by that lick at the beginning of Nervous Man where he just lets it sit there.

And of course, Book Of Blood.

Samsara · « **Reply #113 on:** October 26, 2020, 12:34:09 PM »

Quote from: TAC on October 25, 2020, 08:15:38 PM

Starting to really dig into this album. John Bush proves once again why he is my favorite lyricist.

In Missile To Gun:
"If you take this weapon away
The advantage goes away
It's just man versus man
Fisticuffs might lose a tooth
Then hit the bar make a toast and salute
Celebrate the truce

If we take these weapons away
And the megalomaniacs away
It's just mano y mano
Bloodied beaten make it a game
And we could both agree to share the blame
Reassure that we're sane"

First, great pics Tim. Thanks for sharing.

Yeah, the album is great and Bush's lyrics are always killer. My favorite songs so far, at least the ones that have risen to the top:

(in no order)

Missile to Gun
Never You Fret
Standing on the Shoulders of Giants
End of the Attention Span

>>>But honestly, I dig the whole record. I'm a big fan of the music of "Bubble" but to be honest, there's something about the chorus and John's use of the word "Bubble" that doesn't sit right for me. LOL.

DoctorAction · « **Reply #114 on:** October 26, 2020, 05:06:04 PM »

I'm liking it. But bubble is not a word for a metal song. Even if of it does rhyme with trouble.

TAC · « **Reply #115 on:** October 26, 2020, 05:11:59 PM »

Quote from: Samsara on October 26, 2020, 12:34:09 PM

Standing on the Shoulders of Giants

This is a great song!

Gonzo is fantastic on this album, I must say. The heaviest drummer I have ever seen live.

TAC · « **Reply #116 on:** October 26, 2020, 07:40:28 PM »

This album reminds me a lot of Stomp 442.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #117 on:** October 26, 2020, 07:43:27 PM »

Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:40:28 PM

This album reminds me a lot of Stomp 442.

Couldn’t get into that one

TAC · « **Reply #118 on:** October 26, 2020, 07:45:27 PM »

Quote from: jjrock88 on October 26, 2020, 07:43:27 PM

Quote from: TAC on October 26, 2020, 07:40:28 PM
This album reminds me a lot of Stomp 442.

Couldn’t get into that one

That album is GREAT!!!!!!

jjrock88 · « **Reply #119 on:** October 26, 2020, 07:49:48 PM »

Are you saying that in a Frosted Flakes voice?

TAC · « **Reply #120 on:** October 26, 2020, 07:51:59 PM »

jjrock88 · « **Reply #121 on:** October 26, 2020, 07:54:58 PM »

Samsara · « **Reply #122 on:** October 27, 2020, 07:14:07 AM »

ProfessorPeart · « **Reply #123 on:** October 30, 2020, 01:41:18 PM »

Finally got my Deluxe copy today and was able to give it a listen. This is another solid record and a great follow-up to Win Hands Down. I couldn't help but notice how good it sounded and wondered if Jay Ruston mixed it. Got home and checked the book and he sure did. That guy is a superstar when it comes to mixing.

Anyway, with one listen under my belt I am very happy.

Also, kirk! We know you're back. Fix the thread title man!

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #124 on:** November 02, 2020, 01:53:17 PM »

Really digging the new album. Definitely another solid release, right up there with Win Hands Down. These guys are on a bit of a roll lately. I can't believe how good the vocals are considering how long this dude has been at it.

TAC · « **Reply #125 on:** December 01, 2020, 06:50:08 PM »

http://bravewords.com/news/armored-saint-release-at-home-video-for-never-you-fret

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #126 on:** December 02, 2020, 01:52:46 PM »

Nice, those guitar solos

DoctorAction · « **Reply #127 on:** January 22, 2021, 04:28:42 PM »

This album is totally working for me atm. John really is one of the best metal vocalists ever.

TAC · « **Reply #128 on:** June 29, 2021, 01:57:37 PM »

New video for Lone Wolf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A9lUMi5Rks

wolfking · « **Reply #129 on:** June 29, 2021, 02:36:46 PM »

I still have to go back through these guys discography, but I love the new album. It's on regular rotation.

EPICVIEW · « **Reply #130 on:** June 29, 2021, 06:24:14 PM »

Quote from: TAC on June 29, 2021, 01:57:37 PM

New video for Lone Wolf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A9lUMi5Rks

Samsara · « **Reply #131 on:** July 02, 2021, 01:10:22 PM »

Armored Saint is, IMO, one of the few bands who have gotten better over time. Just phenomenal. Sure, there are classic songs that I am sure are "better" than some of the more recent tracks. But the albums, taken as a whole, and speaking of the last two in particular, can easily be put up next to Symbol of Salvation and give it a run for its money (or any of the 80s output if that's your preference).

As a live singer, John Bush has gotten incredibly better over time. I mean, he's not Glenn Hughes (who I swear sold his soul to the devil to maintain that voice given everything he has done to abuse himself over the years), but John Bush is by far and away better live than he was in the 80s and 90s with Armored Saint and Anthrax. And that's saying something, because he was really good then too.

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #132 on:** July 02, 2021, 01:17:37 PM »

For a dude who is my age, he still delivers the goods vocally and I agree the last two albums stand up to anything in their entire discography.

wolfking · « **Reply #133 on:** August 26, 2021, 06:10:40 AM »

https://youtu.be/2OG6mR2NAtk

Man, I really like this. Gotta get my ass into gear and go back through their catalog.

TAC · « **Reply #134 on:** August 26, 2021, 02:19:29 PM »

(John Bush grunts in Rhythm)

Thanks for posting that. That was awesome! Love Armored Saint.

wolfking · « **Reply #135 on:** August 26, 2021, 08:21:10 PM »

Not sure on the black and white, but who the hell am I to comment.

Yeah, that song was killer. I know you sent me (pretty sure it was you) Reign of Fire I think in my first roulette and that's one catchy song. I keep saying it but gotta make an effort to check more. Punching the Sky is bloody fantastic.

TAC · « **Reply #136 on:** September 22, 2021, 10:35:37 AM »

They just released another song from SOS Live.

The Truth Always Hurts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LynF6A3e2VE

It was never my favorite song on the album., but it has great lyrics and a fantastic performance by John Bush.

RodrigoAltaf · « **Reply #137 on:** September 22, 2021, 01:35:29 PM »

I got the whole live album (audio only), and it's AWESOME!!!!

wolfking · « **Reply #138 on:** September 22, 2021, 02:12:07 PM »

I had a spin of Win Hands Down the other day to break up my Senjutsu listening. I really enjoyed it. The title track is a ripper. I like Punching the Sky more but this was a strong listen.

Funny I've tried the band a few times and didn't take to them and really didn't like Bush at all. Now I think he's the perfect frontman for the band. Just a no bullshit meat and potatoes kind of vocalist with a cool snarl and tone. Will keep slowly working through their albums.

TAC · « **Reply #139 on:** September 22, 2021, 02:16:41 PM »

Win Hands Down is a great album.

Bush is a fantastic lyricist too.

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Author Topic: Armored Saint - "Win Hands Down" (Read 11714 times)