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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2065 on: January 12, 2016, 08:36:56 AM »
I don't know. While driving from home to the office I thought of some stupid, smart-assed response to your dilemma (that probably would only be funny to me) but, now I sense that you're truly struggling with it.

The best I can think of is to be honest and say something like.

I really thought this project would be a good fit and I took it on in good faith and with the best of intentions. It turns out that you'd be better off with a different artist so I'm withdrawing my services. I realize that this will put you in a bad situation at this late hour and I apologize for that.

Sorry, Blob, I wish I had something better but this is probably the way I'd do it.

No, that's pretty good stuff. Thanks. I'll probably use some of that.
The worst part is that it will probably come out of nowhere for him, because they said they liked what they saw and gave some changes, but the changed needed amount to redoing the entire thing from scratch, and the thing is, I struggled because I was trying to stick exactly to what they wanted and still got it that wrong.
From their perspective it's going to look like-
"That's good, but fix these few things"
*waits until deadline to reply*
"I quit"

Which will probably look like an overreaction to minor criticism, but it was a matter of at that point realizing that the way I think and work isn't going to work with what they need.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2066 on: January 12, 2016, 08:40:34 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they request the changes just a few days ago?
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2067 on: January 12, 2016, 08:44:19 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they request the changes just a few days ago?

Yes it was a couple of days ago, which was only a couple of days before the deadline, which is now. If I'd done the work correctly and in a timely fashion the first time, it wouldn't have been an issue, and the changes may not have been an issue either if I was someone more suitable for the work.

The more I think about it, the worse I feel for wanting to quit now, but the more I feel it's what I have to do.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2068 on: January 12, 2016, 08:50:58 AM »
Eh, they bare some of the responsibility in my mind and probably know this.

Things I think you should stress.

1) This is art.
2) Not every artist is suitable to the needs of their customer.
3) You've given it your best effort and after reviewing the necessary changes over the past few days you've determined it's not a good fit for both parties.
4) You feel bad that this is the case.

If you know another artist who would be suitable, offer to get in touch with them to see if they'd be willing to do the deed quickly. If not, their lack of planning isn't your crisis...or so it seems to me.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2069 on: January 12, 2016, 08:56:50 AM »
Eh, they bare some of the responsibility in my mind and probably know this.

Things I think you should stress.

1) This is art.
2) Not every artist is suitable to the needs of their customer.
3) You've given it your best effort and after reviewing the necessary changes over the past few days you've determined it's not a good fit for both parties.
4) You feel bad that this is the case.

If you know another artist who would be suitable, offer to get in touch with them to see if they'd be willing to do the deed quickly. If not, their lack of planning isn't your crisis...or so it seems to me.

It's not really their fault. They can do this entirely on their own, and I think giving me a small part to do was a token gesture, and I've not only failed at it, but left it until their deadline to tell them I'm out. I feel I've handled this unprofessionally all around, mostly due to sucking hugely at dealing with people, and not wanting to admit yet again that I can't do something and letting people down constantly.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2070 on: January 12, 2016, 09:00:08 AM »
I don't know what to say other than, I'm sorry that you're struggling. I think you're being unduly harsh on yourself but then I'm not there and don't know all the nuances.

It's weird, but the fixer in me wants to rescue you and we've never even met.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2071 on: January 12, 2016, 09:10:52 AM »
It's just a shitty situation. I don't want to blame anyone else for my problems. I just sent the email. I'm honestly terrified to read the eventual response, but it had to be done. 2016 is off to an amazing start. Already failed 1/2 projects.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2072 on: January 12, 2016, 10:47:00 AM »
I feel that - even if the reply is really angry - at least they're not standing there screaming in your face. They're miles away and you're just reading it.

If you are really apologetic and take all the blame etc . . . I don't think they can be THAT angry. You might be surprised.


Besides - by the way you described it - there may have been a crossed wire or mis-communication when they were explaining what they wanted hence why they were unsatisfied.

If you were only doing your best based on what you thought they wanted...it's not that huge of a problem.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2073 on: January 12, 2016, 10:50:14 AM »
I just hate disappointing people. No matter the response, I'll feel bad about it. I hope I haven't inconvenienced them too much.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2074 on: January 12, 2016, 11:22:34 AM »
At least you gave it a shot. It wasn't what they wanted and you ran out of time.

Imagine if you'd done fuck all and then said " yeah I did fuck all ".

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2075 on: January 12, 2016, 11:25:41 AM »
I just hate disappointing people. No matter the response, I'll feel bad about it. I hope I haven't inconvenienced them too much.

If it makes you feel any better, you've never disappointed me.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2076 on: January 12, 2016, 11:26:23 AM »
Imagine if you'd done fuck all and then said " yeah I did fuck all ".

If he did that, he'd be me, KB! [/badpoetry]
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2077 on: January 12, 2016, 11:26:48 AM »
He completes me.......
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2078 on: January 12, 2016, 12:03:02 PM »
Good afternoon, gents.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2079 on: January 12, 2016, 01:08:24 PM »
It's 8:08 Pm here !

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2080 on: January 12, 2016, 01:14:30 PM »
I said gents anyway...   :biggrin:

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2081 on: January 12, 2016, 01:18:27 PM »
:getoffmylawn:


yeah yeah i know. I look a lot younger than I am.  :angel: :angel:

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« Reply #2082 on: January 12, 2016, 01:22:24 PM »
 :lol

I'm leaving work in 40 minutes.

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« Reply #2083 on: January 12, 2016, 01:56:58 PM »
Hello good sir.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2084 on: January 12, 2016, 01:58:16 PM »
My phone just alerted me that the trip home today is going to be 25 minutes longer than usually. Some guy on TV tells the people of CT that 0.5" of snow will fall over the next four hours and everyone loses their minds.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2085 on: January 12, 2016, 02:00:54 PM »
So your phone likes messing with you.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2016, 02:46:27 PM by kingshmegland »
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
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« Reply #2086 on: January 12, 2016, 02:07:15 PM »
My phone just alerted me that the trip home today is going to be 25 minutes longer than usually. Some guy on TV tells the people of CT that 0.5" of snow will fall over the next four hours and everyone loses their minds.

Half an inch ? :lol

that's fuck all.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2087 on: January 12, 2016, 02:22:46 PM »
So you phone likes messing with you.

Actually google maps said my phone was going to take 37 minutes to get home from the airport yesterday. I don't know when they updated it to do that but it's pretty awesome.

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« Reply #2088 on: January 12, 2016, 02:47:47 PM »
So you phone likes messing with you.

Actually google maps said my phone was going to take 37 minutes to get home from the airport yesterday. I don't know when they updated it to do that but it's pretty awesome.

Oh I know.  I was messing with Chino.  The best part about Ogle maps is that it updates where the slow areas are and alternative routes.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #2089 on: January 12, 2016, 02:49:34 PM »
Ogle Maps. 👀

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« Reply #2090 on: January 12, 2016, 02:52:46 PM »
You know it's Google.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
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« Reply #2091 on: January 12, 2016, 02:57:07 PM »
Wy don't YOU go Ogle maps ? :lol

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« Reply #2092 on: January 12, 2016, 02:58:57 PM »
That John's territory.  :lol

Though the Gulf Of Mexico is just asking for it.
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« Reply #2093 on: January 12, 2016, 03:44:10 PM »
Italy is just asking for a kicking....

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« Reply #2094 on: January 12, 2016, 03:58:13 PM »
Italy is just asking for a kicking....

Kick in the Italian junk.
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« Reply #2095 on: January 12, 2016, 04:44:37 PM »
Why you gotta be talking about my junk like that?

And as far as Ogle maps, that's just a reference for all of the girls Zydar has defiled.

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« Reply #2096 on: January 12, 2016, 04:48:51 PM »
When I think of Zydar, I think of Peter Griffin driving Quagmire to work, he backs into Quagmire's garage and all the Asian sex slaves escape and Zydar,  I mean Quagmire yells at them in Cantonese.  :lol
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« Reply #2097 on: January 12, 2016, 04:51:00 PM »
I think Zydar needs to make gifs of himself doing random shit. 

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« Reply #2098 on: January 12, 2016, 04:53:02 PM »
Oh he's capable of that. :lol
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« Reply #2099 on: January 12, 2016, 09:51:29 PM »
I just hate disappointing people. No matter the response, I'll feel bad about it. I hope I haven't inconvenienced them too much.

If it makes you feel any better, you've never disappointed me.

It doesn't make me feel better, because it means you've never read my posts! :neverusethis:

I have 9 new emails. I'm too scared to even check them, because that's too many emails. That's potentially from 9 different people all unhappy with me. :(

Or there's one email from the guy, and 8 emails offering me deals on cheap video games.
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