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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3920 on: February 11, 2016, 05:36:58 AM »
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« Reply #3921 on: February 11, 2016, 05:50:34 AM »
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3922 on: February 11, 2016, 05:51:39 AM »
Hey Pod. What up?
Only King could mis-spell a LETTER.
Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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« Reply #3923 on: February 11, 2016, 05:51:50 AM »
What's the good word, Pod?

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3924 on: February 11, 2016, 05:55:43 AM »
Things are nervous around the house. Mrs P has accepted a high profile position in City Government and part of that process is a lot of public scrutiny both by the local press and the city council.
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« Reply #3925 on: February 11, 2016, 05:59:32 AM »
Things are nervous around the house. Mrs P has accepted a high profile position in City Government and part of that process is a lot of public scrutiny both by the local press and the city council.

Is this her first time partaking in such a venture?

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« Reply #3926 on: February 11, 2016, 06:02:54 AM »
Oh hell no. Mrs P. is a 28+ year career bureaucrat, and damned proud of it. She'll be fine, and the press will loose interest as soon as the council signs off on her. It should be a great administration to work for and they've got enough systemic problems that she can do the public some real good by helping them out. She's an expert on culture change and leadership building. Especially in government.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3927 on: February 11, 2016, 06:12:07 AM »
Well congratulations!

This is our busy day today here.  Lets see how much the count climbs
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« Reply #3928 on: February 11, 2016, 06:15:00 AM »
King, when you say "here" you do mean your work, right? What is this count you speak of?
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3929 on: February 11, 2016, 06:30:12 AM »
He works for Sesame Street.  Every day, the Count recites a few more decimal places of pi.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3930 on: February 11, 2016, 06:31:32 AM »
Oh hell no. Mrs P. is a 28+ year career bureaucrat, and damned proud of it. She'll be fine, and the press will loose interest as soon as the council signs off on her. It should be a great administration to work for and they've got enough systemic problems that she can do the public some real good by helping them out. She's an expert on culture change and leadership building. Especially in government.

Congrats to her then. I'm sure her biggest challenge has been putting up with you anyway.   :biggrin: 

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« Reply #3931 on: February 11, 2016, 06:32:13 AM »
Oh, I forgot to mention that I got my new TV yesterday. It's be.a.utiful!
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« Reply #3932 on: February 11, 2016, 06:32:55 AM »
Oh hell no. Mrs P. is a 28+ year career bureaucrat, and damned proud of it. She'll be fine, and the press will loose interest as soon as the council signs off on her. It should be a great administration to work for and they've got enough systemic problems that she can do the public some real good by helping them out. She's an expert on culture change and leadership building. Especially in government.

Congrats to her then. I'm sure her biggest challenge has been putting up with you anyway.   :biggrin:

Strangely, she gives me a ton of credit for her success.  ???

She's weird.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3933 on: February 11, 2016, 06:33:46 AM »
He works for Sesame Street.  Every day, the Count recites a few more decimal places of pi.

Boy, that's gonna take a while. One! AHAHAHAH! Four! AHAHAHAHAH! One! AHAHAHAH! Five! AHAHAHAH!
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3934 on: February 11, 2016, 06:36:34 AM »
:lol

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3935 on: February 11, 2016, 06:38:20 AM »
GODDAMMIT COUNT, JUST GIVE ME THE NUMBERS WITHOUT THE BULLSHIT!

I've lost my place. I shall have to start again. Three! AHAHAHAHAH! Point! AHAHAHAHAH!
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3936 on: February 11, 2016, 06:39:31 AM »
King, when you say "here" you do mean your work, right? What is this count you speak of?

I'm a Site Manager of a contracted company that processes pallets for a Wal Mart DC in Raymond, N.H.  We on average sort 250,000 pallets a month plus we sort boxes for them to reuse and we take care of commingled items.  We right now have 21 trailers of pallets to sort through and 2 box trailers to sort through.

He works for Sesame Street.  Every day, the Count recites a few more decimal places of pi.

Boy, that's gonna take a while. One! AHAHAHAH! Four! AHAHAHAHAH! One! AHAHAHAH! Five! AHAHAHAH!

you silly goose.  I slay numbers, that's why I'm in this position.  Also Coz,

Vone Beer, Tvo Beers, Thvee Beers........
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3937 on: February 11, 2016, 07:13:45 AM »
So, Blob.

I'm researching calibration recommendations online for my new TV. The first two articles I found claim to have the best settings based on hardware calibration in darkness. The recommended settings are completely different!  :lol

I think the out of box calibration looks fine to me.

BTW, the standard picture setting has a "feature" that slightly dims the output for EnergyStar reasons. It's like your cellphone going to half brightness to save battery. It's annoying as fuck. If any of you buy a Samsung, immediately switch it over to movie mode.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3938 on: February 11, 2016, 07:17:00 AM »
Oh hell no. Mrs P. is a 28+ year career bureaucrat, and damned proud of it. She'll be fine, and the press will loose interest as soon as the council signs off on her. It should be a great administration to work for and they've got enough systemic problems that she can do the public some real good by helping them out. She's an expert on culture change and leadership building. Especially in government.

Congrats to her then. I'm sure her biggest challenge has been putting up with you anyway.   :biggrin:

Strangely, she gives me a ton of credit for her success.  ???

She's weird.

She would have to be.   :)

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3939 on: February 11, 2016, 07:17:49 AM »
So, Blob.

I'm researching calibration recommendations online for my new TV. The first two articles I found claim to have the best settings based on hardware calibration in darkness. The recommended settings are completely different!  :lol

I think the out of box calibration looks fine to me.

BTW, the standard picture setting has a "feature" that slightly dims the output for EnergyStar reasons. It's like your cellphone going to half brightness to save battery. It's annoying as fuck. If any of you buy a Samsung, immediately switch it over to movie mode.

Yeah, most things seem to recommend calibration under standard lighting since the lighting affects how you perceive the picture in theory, although I personally calibrate my monitor in darkness (I use my computer in darkness more than light anyway :lol ).
I'm not sure what settings your TV has, but I'm not sure I'd consider anything that it does "calibration" as such anyway. And trust me, legitimate calibration would look horrible to most people, because most people are used to the flashy looking settings.

How are you trying to set it up?
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3940 on: February 11, 2016, 07:23:39 AM »
When my brother got a 65 inch plasma TV he paid the extra $100 to have them calibrate it.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3941 on: February 11, 2016, 07:24:40 AM »
I'd be curious to know what they'd calibrate a regular TV to.
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« Reply #3942 on: February 11, 2016, 07:27:12 AM »
I was just investigating the settings for the TV since a lot of tech reviews of the TV recommend "calibrating" your set and not accepting the default modes.

Basically the set has the ability to be adjusted by the owner with these parameters.

Backlight
Contrast
Brightness
Sharpness
Color
Tint
Dynamic contrast (off/on)
Black tone (off/on)
Flesh tone (1-10)
RGB Only Mode
Color Space (Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, Cyan, Magenta, all individually adjustable by amounts of R, B, G)
White Balance (adjustable offset from 0 in two levels of R, G, B)
A bunch of other settings for noise filtering, adjusting incoming signal, etc.

   
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« Reply #3943 on: February 11, 2016, 07:29:34 AM »
I'd be curious to know what they'd calibrate a regular TV to.

That was where I was going with my original post on this subject. I think these articles are subjectively calibrating the image. Hell of an oxymoron if you ask me. It's difficult being an uneducated consumer these days.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #3944 on: February 11, 2016, 07:31:48 AM »
I'd be curious to know what they'd calibrate a regular TV to.

I'll ask him tonight.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3945 on: February 11, 2016, 07:36:42 AM »
I'd be curious to know what they'd calibrate a regular TV to.

That was where I was going with my original post on this subject. I think these articles are subjectively calibrating the image. Hell of an oxymoron if you ask me. It's difficult being an uneducated consumer these days.  :biggrin:

Yeah, software calibration like that is fairly subjective, and unless the settings come from the manufacturer, or have some objective backing to them, are maybe just someone else's idea of what looks best for that particular TV. Which isn't a bad thing in itself, but for a TV I think it's mostly personal preference of how you want to view things. Accurate calibration isn't that critical to the end user.
For my monitor, I do hardware calibration with a colorimeter, a little device which I attach to the monitor and it can measure the actual colour and brightness of the monitor. I tell the calibration software what settings I want (brightness, gamma, whitepoint, color space), and then leave it for a couple of minutes to adjust it for me, and I can't manually adjust any settings unless through calibrating it again.


I'd be curious to know what they'd calibrate a regular TV to.

I'll ask him tonight.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3946 on: February 11, 2016, 07:36:51 AM »
Good morning, I never thought to calibrate my tv but I should when I get home.

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« Reply #3947 on: February 11, 2016, 07:44:46 AM »
Well since I couldn't find a photo of the equipment online, here it is. I had to bring it back to the office to check the configuration and such. It's so outdated that software isn't used to configure it, just some switches on the circuitry board. It looks like one of them was set wrong.




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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Kinginese
« Reply #3948 on: February 11, 2016, 07:47:36 AM »
Are those DIP switches? That is oldschool.
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« Reply #3949 on: February 11, 2016, 07:48:25 AM »
Who are you calling a dipswitch?
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« Reply #3950 on: February 11, 2016, 07:51:29 AM »
Are those DIP switches? That is oldschool.

Yes. This device is at least 20 years old, probably even older.

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« Reply #3951 on: February 11, 2016, 07:56:35 AM »
Are those DIP switches? That is oldschool.

Yes. This device is at least 20 years old, probably even older.

You can tell it's old even by the circuit board style and colour. On later boards in the 90s, they're usually a darker green with different looking tracks, and shinier. I've pulled apart enough things to know. :lol
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« Reply #3952 on: February 11, 2016, 08:08:09 AM »
Are those DIP switches? That is oldschool.

Yes. This device is at least 20 years old, probably even older.

You can tell it's old even by the circuit board style and colour. On later boards in the 90s, they're usually a darker green with different looking tracks, and shinier. I've pulled apart enough things to know. :lol

I always love pulling apart old equipment. I used to keep everything I had in the way of technology, even if it was just pieces of it. :blob:  I know exactly what you're saying about the color and shine of it.

We actually have just one more of these that I dug out of the storeroom. Hopefully it works because I think the one installed now is done. I'll have to drag both with me out to the site. I fixed the one dipswitch setting so hopefully that stops the errors on the circuit. If not, then I have one more left to install. Otherwise, it's time for them to upgrade to the 21st century.  :lol

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« Reply #3953 on: February 11, 2016, 08:12:09 AM »
Would they have to upgrade the entire system at once? Would that cost a lot?

I used to love pulling stuff apart and salvaging motors and buttons and sliders and whatever else looked cool. I still have a lot of it. I'd often come home from school with random electronic parts that we'd either salvaged from the back of shops (we got so many old mobile phones and great batteries and chargers that way), or friends would give me old laptops to fix, or I'd buy parts at the electronics hobby shop literally right across from the school, or one time the entire top section off something (might have been a high end photocopier?). It was several feet long and had a screen and I thought it might have fun parts in it, so I took it home from school. Don't know what happened to it.
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« Reply #3954 on: February 11, 2016, 08:24:30 AM »
Who are you calling a dipswitch?

Someone has to recognize this. :lol
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