Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!)

[MirrorMask]

While being mostly a metalhead, I'm all about great songs first and foremost, regardless if they're fast or slow.

Take Nightwish for example, their album Imaginaerum - it has a jazz song (Slow, Love, Slow) that has nothing to do with the rest of the album or their entire discography but it's so damn good that I like it. It will be the same with the new album, if there are many slower songs and they're all great, so be it! I look forward the most to the WTF moments, the tango / swingjazz stuff, the bagpipes, all the crazy insanity that I love to find here and there in records (another example, Unia from Sonata Arctica... a total mindfuck of an album, many hate it, I consider it one of their very best. Sometimes with an estabilished band it's fun to just not know what's coming next).

[BlackInk]

When reading the last few posts I tried to ask myself which side of DT I like best. I don't know really. I mean, I like the heavier side, but they have a lot of lighter stuff that I love as well, so I think I'll be fine.

[Zydar]

Personally I've never been a metalhead. I am a fan of Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and some other metal bands, but it's never been my favourite genre. My interest in metal has diminished over the years, and it's pretty much at an all time low by this point. So if this album has less metal than their previous couple of albums, it's all fine by me.

[Evermind]

I'm all about great songs first and foremost, regardless if they're fast or slow.

Take Nightwish for example, their album Imaginaerum - it has a jazz song (Slow, Love, Slow) that has nothing to do with the rest of the album or their entire discography but it's so damn good that I like it. It will be the same with the new album, if there are many slower songs and they're all great, so be it! I look forward the most to the WTF moments, the tango / swingjazz stuff, the bagpipes, all the crazy insanity that I love to find here and there in records (another example, Unia from Sonata Arctica... a total mindfuck of an album, many hate it, I consider it one of their very best. Sometimes with an estabilished band it's fun to just not know what's coming next).

Now this I can agree with.

[Frankgate]

Anyway, it's kinda Astonishing that they haven't realeased a new track yet (out of 34).

[MirrorMask]

If they wanted, we'd have gotten a second song instead than a trailer.

I guess they want to emhasize the whole "One big pic of work" concept.

[RMGadelha]

Even the reviews that are being called negative are praising James' work. This is really exciting. I wonder if this will turn out to be his best or at least top 3 or 5 post accident.

[YtseJamittaja]

While being mostly a metalhead, I'm all about great songs first and foremost, regardless if they're fast or slow.

Take Nightwish for example, their album Imaginaerum - it has a jazz song (Slow, Love, Slow) that has nothing to do with the rest of the album or their entire discography but it's so damn good that I like it. It will be the same with the new album, if there are many slower songs and they're all great, so be it! I look forward the most to the WTF moments, the tango / swingjazz stuff, the bagpipes, all the crazy insanity that I love to find here and there in records (another example, Unia from Sonata Arctica... a total mindfuck of an album, many hate it, I consider it one of their very best. Sometimes with an estabilished band it's fun to just not know what's coming next).

I love how your examples are so Finnish!

[palmeiras]

I love ballads, I love heavy songs, I love crazy instrumental shred section, I love experimental music, I love mix styles with diferent instruments. Só i think i will love the astonishing

[RMGadelha]

It's funny because while I love soft stuff, with regards to Finland I always turn to the heavier and wackier stuff like Finntroll, Moonsorrow, CoB... Other than that, it's all glorious folkiness to me. Korpi, Turisas...

[King Postwhore]

If you are a Dream Theater fan, you love all their sides. That's what always drawn me to them.  The diversity.

[ariich]

It still surprises me how many people (the majority, it seems) respond either positively or negatively to "less metal". Obviously everyone has different tastes, but I guess I thought more people (certainly here) would be less bothered about genre/style.

Οr maybe it's just a matter of balance, and giving all the members of the band a chance to shine. More dynamics in terms of the music is also interesting. And of course, it's something different than the previous albums as it seems, so change is interesting as well.

Well of course, balance, diversity and something new are all things that interest me too. But I don't think those have anything to do with "less metal" or "more metal".

[King Postwhore]

When bands do the same style over a long career fans complain.   This is the only band that people bitch about diversity.   It makes me giggle.

[JediKnight1969]

It still surprises me how many people (the majority, it seems) respond either positively or negatively to "less metal". Obviously everyone has different tastes, but I guess I thought more people (certainly here) would be less bothered about genre/style.

It doesn't surprise me...

Sadly, I think many fans (not me) are going to complain about the lack of metal on this record...

[ariich]

Same the other way as well, lots are excited about it.

[RMGadelha]

Same the other way as well, lots are excited about it.

I'm somewhat a recent ran. Been following the band before Black Clouds was released. This is the most excited I have ever been for a Dream Theater record.

[Frankgate]

Even the reviews that are being called negative are praising James' work. This is really exciting.

That encourages me a lot.
Whether the instrumentals are good or not, you're going nowhere without exciting vocals.

[JediKnight1969]

Same the other way as well, lots are excited about it.

Me included. I'm a true MUSIC lover. Therefore, DT die hard fan.

[BlackInk]

So if you're not a DT die hard fan you don't love music?

[jakepriest]

So if you're not a DT die hard fan you don't love music?

Fuck music man. I just like DT.

[mike099]

Even the reviews that are being called negative are praising James' work. This is really exciting.

That encourages me a lot.
Whether the instrumentals are good or not, you're going nowhere without exciting vocals.

The tour has 3 consecutive shows a few times.  Hoping that James' voice holds up without a days rest.

[MirrorMask]

Yup, I actually get a third show in a row, hope that won't make such a difference...

[Ben_Jamin]

The more I read, the more it feels like The Wall, which is good.

I'm excited for the NOMAC tracks and Dystopian Overture.

[thosava]

Yup, I actually get a third show in a row, hope that won't make such a difference...

I'm a bit worried too. I'm going to the third show in Oslo.

[rumborak]

https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=https://www.metalhammer.it/interview.aspx/1179/dream-theater-il-track-by-track-di-the-astonishing/&prev=search

Another track-by-track from Metal Hammer Italy.  This a live review so he's only heard it once.

"They have no intention of sciropparsi metal castings steaming"

What does that mean?! And is it different from whahibrido pickingant?!

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=https://www.metalhammer.it/interview.aspx/1179/dream-theater-il-track-by-track-di-the-astonishing/&prev=search

Another track-by-track from Metal Hammer Italy.  This a live review so he's only heard it once.

"They have no intention of sciropparsi metal castings steaming"

What does that mean?! And is it different from whahibrido pickingant?!

Tordenperle krall. Literally.

[BlackInk]

Sciropparsi sounds like the fancier man's whahibrido.

[mikemangioy]

It means "they haven't got any intention of bathing in molten metal anymore"

meaning : Y U NO HEAVY DT

[RMGadelha]

I took the courage of reading this review and oh man... that's the first review where the author sounds like a whining kid. One of the lines basically reading: "THIS IS NOT DT, WHERE IS MY DT"

[wasteland]

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Another track-by-track from Metal Hammer Italy.  This a live review so he's only heard it once.

"They have no intention of sciropparsi metal castings steaming"

What does that mean?! And is it different from whahibrido pickingant?!

Ma la verità è secondo me un'altra: i DT sono ormai rispettabili musicisti di 50 anni e passa l'uno. Non hanno più intenzione di sciropparsi colate di metallo fumante, i loro gusti sono cambiati, i loro ascolti lo sono. Dobbiamo arrenderci all'evidenza, questo disco ci consegna una band di mostruosi professionisti dello strumento, che veleggiano serenamente verso i sessant'anni.

"But in my opinion the truth is another: DT are at this point respectable musicians each over 50 years old. They aren't willing to put up with castings of fuming metal anymore, their tastes changed, and so has what they listen to. We need to surrender to the evidence, this disc gives us a band of terrific professionals of their instrument, peacefully sailing towards their sixties."

[wideworldofmike]

Sciropparsi sounds like the fancier man's whahibrido.

Naw, Sciropparsi is like Magnum. Whahibrido is Blue Steel.

[MirrorMask]

Sciropparsi sounds like the fancier man's whahibrido.

Naw, Sciropparsi is like Magnum. Whahibrido is Blue Steel.

Sorry to spoil the fun by translating but the verb comes from the italian word for syrup, sciroppo. It means having to put up with something that bores you, like you would "syrup down" a movie you don't care for but your girlfriend wants you to see it.

[ResultsMayVary]

https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=https://www.metalhammer.it/interview.aspx/1179/dream-theater-il-track-by-track-di-the-astonishing/&prev=search

Another track-by-track from Metal Hammer Italy.  This a live review so he's only heard it once.

"They have no intention of sciropparsi metal castings steaming"

What does that mean?! And is it different from whahibrido pickingant?!

Ma la verità è secondo me un'altra: i DT sono ormai rispettabili musicisti di 50 anni e passa l'uno. Non hanno più intenzione di sciropparsi colate di metallo fumante, i loro gusti sono cambiati, i loro ascolti lo sono. Dobbiamo arrenderci all'evidenza, questo disco ci consegna una band di mostruosi professionisti dello strumento, che veleggiano serenamente verso i sessant'anni.

"But in my opinion the truth is another: DT are at this point respectable musicians each over 50 years old. They aren't willing to put up with castings of fuming metal anymore, their tastes changed, and so has what they listen to. We need to surrender to the evidence, this disc gives us a band of terrific professionals of their instrument, peacefully sailing towards their sixties."

[wideworldofmike]

Sciropparsi sounds like the fancier man's whahibrido.

Naw, Sciropparsi is like Magnum. Whahibrido is Blue Steel.

Sorry to spoil the fun by translating but the verb comes from the italian word for syrup, sciroppo. It means having to put up with something that bores you, like you would "syrup down" a movie you don't care for but your girlfriend wants you to see it.

So you're saying he wanted more Whahibrido?.... 

[Prog Snob]

Ma la verità è secondo me un'altra: i DT sono ormai rispettabili musicisti di 50 anni e passa l'uno. Non hanno più intenzione di sciropparsi colate di metallo fumante, i loro gusti sono cambiati, i loro ascolti lo sono. Dobbiamo arrenderci all'evidenza, questo disco ci consegna una band di mostruosi professionisti dello strumento, che veleggiano serenamente verso i sessant'anni.

"But in my opinion the truth is another: DT are at this point respectable musicians each over 50 years old. They aren't willing to put up with castings of fuming metal anymore, their tastes changed, and so has what they listen to. We need to surrender to the evidence, this disc gives us a band of terrific professionals of their instrument, peacefully sailing towards their sixties."

Either your translation sucks or the writer has no idea what he's talking about.      I'm leaning more towards the latter.