Author Topic: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!) (Read 1200914 times)

mikemangioy · « **Reply #3885 on:** December 21, 2015, 12:58:12 PM »

Well, it seems that JR gave away some info on Prog Magazine.

Spoilers below.

"...Gabriel and his brother Arhys are trying to bring back the values of music which they think will heal their world. It's a really detailed story that has a love theme as well and a really cool ending which I won't give away!" - JR
JR said he was glad he could tap into his more classical influences and also said: "We also have a lot of different styles that are even further outside that; we have a tango part and Eric Rigler plays bagpipes at one point"
"In addition to all the organic elements...there are also these interludes with the NOMACS...they're these futuristic Noise Machines that create their own sound and in the story, over time, machines are given the power to create music but they take it too far so it becomes this kind of noise and it's all very electronic"

RMGadelha · « **Reply #3886 on:** December 21, 2015, 01:01:08 PM »

Quote from: mikemangioy on December 21, 2015, 12:58:12 PM

Well, it seems that JR gave away some info on Prog Magazine.

Spoilers below.

"...Gabriel and his brother Arhys are trying to bring back the values of music which they think will heal their world. It's a really detailed story that has a love theme as well and a really cool ending which I won't give away!" - JR
JR said he was glad he could tap into his more classical influences and also said: "We also have a lot of different styles that are even further outside that; we have a tango part and Eric Rigler plays bagpipes at one point"
"In addition to all the organic elements...there are also these interludes with the NOMACS...they're these futuristic Noise Machines that create their own sound and in the story, over time, machines are given the power to create music but they take it too far so it becomes this kind of noise and it's all very electronic"

Oh my, those are EXCELLENT news because I am a huge Bagpipe nerd. I love all types of Bagpipes, from the famous Great Highland ones, to smallpipes, borderpipes, Swedish säckpipa, Säckpfeifen...

Darkstarshades · « **Reply #3887 on:** December 21, 2015, 01:01:16 PM »

NOMAC's were created at the end of Misunderstood.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #3888 on:** December 21, 2015, 01:03:34 PM »

Quote from: Darkstarshades on December 21, 2015, 01:01:16 PM

NOMAC's were created at the end of Misunderstood.

JP created them.

JP is The Killing Hand.

The Astonishing is The Killing Hand, Pt. 2 confirmed.

Nearmyth · « **Reply #3889 on:** December 21, 2015, 01:20:30 PM »

Quote from: mikemangioy on December 21, 2015, 12:58:12 PM

Well, it seems that JR gave away some info on Prog Magazine.

Spoilers below.

"...Gabriel and his brother Arhys are trying to bring back the values of music which they think will heal their world. It's a really detailed story that has a love theme as well and a really cool ending which I won't give away!" - JR
JR said he was glad he could tap into his more classical influences and also said: "We also have a lot of different styles that are even further outside that; we have a tango part and Eric Rigler plays bagpipes at one point"
"In addition to all the organic elements...there are also these interludes with the NOMACS...they're these futuristic Noise Machines that create their own sound and in the story, over time, machines are given the power to create music but they take it too far so it becomes this kind of noise and it's all very electronic"

This makes me VERY excited, that's exactly what I was hoping for

Train of Naught · « **Reply #3890 on:** December 21, 2015, 01:34:57 PM »

@ mikemangioy yeah I caught those on the DT reddit, great news. I'm a sucker for the tango section in TMV's L'Via L'Viaquez so this definitely makes me hyped.

wideworldofmike · « **Reply #3891 on:** December 21, 2015, 01:35:45 PM »

Quote from: mikemangioy on December 21, 2015, 12:58:12 PM

Well, it seems that JR gave away some info on Prog Magazine.

Spoilers below.

"...Gabriel and his brother Arhys are trying to bring back the values of music which they think will heal their world. It's a really detailed story that has a love theme as well and a really cool ending which I won't give away!" - JR
JR said he was glad he could tap into his more classical influences and also said: "We also have a lot of different styles that are even further outside that; we have a tango part and Eric Rigler plays bagpipes at one point"
"In addition to all the organic elements...there are also these interludes with the NOMACS...they're these futuristic Noise Machines that create their own sound and in the story, over time, machines are given the power to create music but they take it too far so it becomes this kind of noise and it's all very electronic"

Do you have the link to the article? I am looking all over the nets for it.

SwedishGoose · « **Reply #3892 on:** December 21, 2015, 01:38:24 PM »

Quote from: wideworldofmike on December 21, 2015, 01:35:45 PM

Quote from: mikemangioy on December 21, 2015, 12:58:12 PM
Well, it seems that JR gave away some info on Prog Magazine.

Spoilers below.

"...Gabriel and his brother Arhys are trying to bring back the values of music which they think will heal their world. It's a really detailed story that has a love theme as well and a really cool ending which I won't give away!" - JR
JR said he was glad he could tap into his more classical influences and also said: "We also have a lot of different styles that are even further outside that; we have a tango part and Eric Rigler plays bagpipes at one point"
"In addition to all the organic elements...there are also these interludes with the NOMACS...they're these futuristic Noise Machines that create their own sound and in the story, over time, machines are given the power to create music but they take it too far so it becomes this kind of noise and it's all very electronic"

Do you have the link to the article? I am looking all over the nets for it.

Me too....

Gonz · « **Reply #3893 on:** December 21, 2015, 01:51:59 PM »

Same here...

mikemangioy · « **Reply #3894 on:** December 21, 2015, 02:22:00 PM »

Quote from: Train of Naught on December 21, 2015, 01:34:57 PM

yeah i caught those on reddit

me too, i don't have the source

YtseJamittaja · « **Reply #3895 on:** December 21, 2015, 02:35:43 PM »

Just buy the newest magazine and pretend it's 1995.

RoeDent · « **Reply #3896 on:** December 21, 2015, 02:46:22 PM »

I had a feeling it might be in the printed magazine, or perhaps the online subscription service that magazine offers.

Tantalising little tidbits there though. (Alliteration

) The NOMAC tracks will be interludes then, rather than full songs. I suspect they won't be too long either, perhaps all under 1:30, if not shorter. Gives room for some more length for some of the other songs.

The Presence of Frenemies · « **Reply #3897 on:** December 21, 2015, 02:54:49 PM »

Quote from: mikemangioy on December 21, 2015, 12:58:12 PM

"In addition to all the organic elements...there are also these interludes with the NOMACS...they're these futuristic Noise Machines that create their own sound and in the story, over time, machines are given the power to create music but they take it too far"

They tried to whahibrido pickingant

MirrorMask · « **Reply #3898 on:** December 21, 2015, 03:00:32 PM »

Awesome news, I want the album to be as crazy and diverse as possible! LOL at the NOMACS playing the end of Misunderstood

mikemangioy · « **Reply #3899 on:** December 21, 2015, 03:08:42 PM »

Quote from: The Presence of Frenemies on December 21, 2015, 02:54:49 PM

They tried to whahibrido pickingant

can someone please explain what the hell is this?

RoeDent · « **Reply #3900 on:** December 21, 2015, 03:15:55 PM »

Quote from: mikemangioy on December 21, 2015, 03:08:42 PM

Quote from: The Presence of Frenemies on December 21, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
They tried to whahibrido pickingant

can someone please explain what the hell is this?

It's whahíbrido pickingant. What else is there to explain?

Or, start here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45270.0 (from the OP, but it gets funny towards the bottom of page 3).

We took that and ran with it here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45294.0

If you're not

at some point reading those you're not human.

RaasMah · « **Reply #3901 on:** December 21, 2015, 03:16:25 PM »

Quote from: mikemangioy on December 21, 2015, 03:08:42 PM

Quote from: The Presence of Frenemies on December 21, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
They tried to whahibrido pickingant

can someone please explain what the hell is this?

Check page 1 of John petrucci skill level thread

...

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3902 on:** December 21, 2015, 03:54:11 PM »

I hope that's legit, because I really want to hear some different style influences, and guest musicians again.

noxon · « **Reply #3903 on:** December 21, 2015, 04:02:59 PM »

I can confirm that it is legit.

Darkstarshades · « **Reply #3904 on:** December 21, 2015, 04:05:29 PM »

Lord Noxxon has spoken, so it's true.

Songs where NOMACs have appeared...
A Change of Seasons
Misunderstood
A Nightmare to Remember
A Rite of Passage

My investigation had led to these conclusions, can anyone elaborate on their thoughts?

RMGadelha · « **Reply #3905 on:** December 21, 2015, 04:08:47 PM »

Then I really can't wait for the Bagpipes. I just wonder if it will be any other pipes other than the Great Highland ones. Arjen used Uilleann pipes on the latest Ayreon album, for example.

noxon · « **Reply #3906 on:** December 21, 2015, 04:25:31 PM »

I'm not a bagpipe afficionado. How do you tell the difference?

RMGadelha · « **Reply #3907 on:** December 21, 2015, 04:30:22 PM »

Quote from: noxon on December 21, 2015, 04:25:31 PM

I'm not a bagpipe afficionado. How do you tell the difference?

Well, there are hundreds of different pipes, but if you mean between the more well known Highland Pipes and Uilleann pipes, you can see the way the air is blown into the bag (blowpipe = highland, bellows = uilleann) and of course how the chanter and drones sound. Highland pipes also only reach 9 notes, uilleann has more I believe. I love both, but if you want a more mellow sound, uilleann is your pick.

In this video you can compare the two different sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNhWxH_NUh8

EDIT: You can't hear the Great Highland drones on that video. I think he might have plugged it due to the tuning. The drones you hear are the Uilleann pipes only, I think. The chanter is what plays the melody, and you can clearly hear the difference here.

Lowdz · « **Reply #3908 on:** December 21, 2015, 04:38:48 PM »

Quote from: RMGadelha on December 21, 2015, 01:01:08 PM

Quote from: mikemangioy on December 21, 2015, 12:58:12 PM
Well, it seems that JR gave away some info on Prog Magazine.

Spoilers below.

"...Gabriel and his brother Arhys are trying to bring back the values of music which they think will heal their world. It's a really detailed story that has a love theme as well and a really cool ending which I won't give away!" - JR
JR said he was glad he could tap into his more classical influences and also said: "We also have a lot of different styles that are even further outside that; we have a tango part and Eric Rigler plays bagpipes at one point"
"In addition to all the organic elements...there are also these interludes with the NOMACS...they're these futuristic Noise Machines that create their own sound and in the story, over time, machines are given the power to create music but they take it too far so it becomes this kind of noise and it's all very electronic"

Oh my, those are EXCELLENT news because I am a huge Bagpipe nerd. I love all types of Bagpipes, from the famous Great Highland ones, to smallpipes, borderpipes, Swedish säckpipa, Säckpfeifen...

I fucking hate the sound of bagpipes. Here's hoping those sections are short and buried under JP guitar.

RMGadelha · « **Reply #3909 on:** December 21, 2015, 04:41:55 PM »

Here's hoping the sound is as loud as possible just for my delight and to annoy you

CDrice · « **Reply #3910 on:** December 21, 2015, 04:57:03 PM »

Quote from: RMGadelha on December 21, 2015, 04:41:55 PM

Here's hoping the sound is as loud as possible just for my delight and to annoy you

Or what about an 8 minute track featuring only bagpipes and James yodelling on top? That would be epic!

RMGadelha · « **Reply #3911 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:03:03 PM »

Quote from: CDrice on December 21, 2015, 04:57:03 PM

Quote from: RMGadelha on December 21, 2015, 04:41:55 PM
Here's hoping the sound is as loud as possible just for my delight and to annoy you

Or what about an 8 minute track featuring only bagpipes and James yodelling on top? That would be epic!

My dream come true, haha! Then it would have to be the german sackpfeife, which sounds glorious too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTwAYJ52JdE

jakepriest · « **Reply #3912 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:03:17 PM »

Quote from: Lowdz on December 21, 2015, 04:38:48 PM

I fucking hate the sound of bagpipes. Here's hoping those sections are short and buried under JP guitar.

This x1000

jsbru · « **Reply #3913 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:09:19 PM »

I fucking love bagpipes. I'm psyched. Screw all you haters!

RMGadelha · « **Reply #3914 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:10:54 PM »

Quote from: jsbru on December 21, 2015, 05:09:19 PM

I fucking love bagpipes. I'm psyched. Screw all you haters!

millahh · « **Reply #3915 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:33:20 PM »

When I hear bagpipes and guitar together, I have the involuntary reflex to start chanting "Let's go Murphys" [clap clap clap-clap-clap]...

lightbug · « **Reply #3916 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:41:30 PM »

The path will soon divide ... Choose wisely

Bagpipes Lover ||||| Bagpipes Hater

RaiseTheKnife · « **Reply #3917 on:** December 21, 2015, 06:19:00 PM »

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on December 21, 2015, 01:03:34 PM

Quote from: Darkstarshades on December 21, 2015, 01:01:16 PM
NOMAC's were created at the end of Misunderstood.
JP created them.

JP is The Killing Hand.

The Astonishing is The Killing Hand, Pt. 2 confirmed.

wideworldofmike · « **Reply #3918 on:** December 21, 2015, 07:41:05 PM »

Quote from: RMGadelha on December 21, 2015, 04:08:47 PM

Then I really can't wait for the Bagpipes. I just wonder if it will be any other pipes other than the Great Highland ones. Arjen used Uilleann pipes on the latest Ayreon album, for example.

Looks like the guy they hired is a superstar, most of his credits seem to be Uilleann, not that I have any expertise though.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #3919 on:** December 21, 2015, 07:58:12 PM »

*Wants something different from DT*

*Gets bagpipe, something different from DT*

*Hates*

- DT Fan

News: Track-by-track video for Fall Into the Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ezfzdMpRc0

Author Topic: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!) (Read 1200914 times)