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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2485 on: December 03, 2015, 12:06:25 PM »
Really loving the leaked track. I didn't think JLB was capable of reaching the high notes anymore until I heard the "CRUCIFYYY" chorus.
https://youtu.be/p8jKFJsXWpM

I'd hope it's fake, whatever it is.

It's a joke from when around the Octavarium era songs from James' solo album were passed off as DT's, Crucify is the opening track of Elements of Persuasion.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2486 on: December 03, 2015, 12:10:32 PM »
Anyone notice the similarities to the new Meagadeth album cover (Dystopia). Looks like Nomacs hovering in a futuristic setting. I wonder if it's the same artist. Btw, the cover looks awesome on the new Megadeth and DT albums..

It has been discussed actually . . . wonder if it is related :huh:
Excuse me for not reading all 71 pages on this thread..   :\
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2487 on: December 03, 2015, 12:14:16 PM »
Really loving the leaked track. I didn't think JLB was capable of reaching the high notes anymore until I heard the "CRUCIFYYY" chorus.
https://youtu.be/p8jKFJsXWpM

I'd hope it's fake, whatever it is.

It's a joke from when around the Octavarium era songs from James' solo album were passed off as DT's, Crucify is the opening track of Elements of Persuasion.

Ok now I feel like a moron. I remember that, but with all the talk of leaks (apparently serious ones) I was like, "where's the ban button?" :lol
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2488 on: December 03, 2015, 12:14:24 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2489 on: December 03, 2015, 12:14:37 PM »
Who will find it first?  :corn:
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2490 on: December 03, 2015, 12:15:30 PM »
Well, i could win that, but i'm disqualified since i already know ;)

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2491 on: December 03, 2015, 12:15:52 PM »
Anyone notice the similarities to the new Meagadeth album cover (Dystopia). Looks like Nomacs hovering in a futuristic setting. I wonder if it's the same artist. Btw, the cover looks awesome on the new Megadeth and DT albums..

It has been discussed actually . . . wonder if it is related :huh:
Excuse me for not reading all 71 pages on this thread..   :\

I was just saying it has been discussed matter-of-factly, not trying to attack you ;)

I don't blame you . . . like I've said I wouldn't wish reading this whole thread on anyone :lol

I just meant "I wonder if it is related" as in the two album covers. No worries . . . sorry for the misunderstanding :)
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2492 on: December 03, 2015, 12:16:06 PM »
Well, i could win that, but i'm disqualified since i already know ;)

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2493 on: December 03, 2015, 12:17:14 PM »


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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2494 on: December 03, 2015, 12:19:40 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2495 on: December 03, 2015, 12:20:50 PM »
Who will find it first?  :corn:

Assuming that a mod is not talking about leaked material... find WHAT?  :eek
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2496 on: December 03, 2015, 12:22:06 PM »
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« Reply #2497 on: December 03, 2015, 12:23:42 PM »
Really loving the leaked track. I didn't think JLB was capable of reaching the high notes anymore until I heard the "CRUCIFYYY" chorus.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2498 on: December 03, 2015, 12:24:12 PM »
Anyone notice the similarities to the new Meagadeth album cover (Dystopia). Looks like Nomacs hovering in a futuristic setting. I wonder if it's the same artist. Btw, the cover looks awesome on the new Megadeth and DT albums..

It has been discussed actually . . . wonder if it is related :huh:
Excuse me for not reading all 71 pages on this thread..   :\

I was just saying it has been discussed matter-of-factly, not trying to attack you ;)

I don't blame you . . . like I've said I wouldn't wish reading this whole thread on anyone :lol

I just meant "I wonder if it is related" as in the two album covers. No worries . . . sorry for the misunderstanding :)
Oh shoot, sorry I misinterpreted what you said (my bad). Thanks for clarifying,  it's all good. :blush
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2499 on: December 03, 2015, 12:27:08 PM »
I'm not sure if anyone here is familiar, but every time I look at the NOMACs I can't help but think of the servitors from Destiny.



Forgive me if this comparison was made before, I haven't read all 71 pages!  Haha

And I can't help but think of Flight of the Navigator.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2500 on: December 03, 2015, 12:28:16 PM »
I'm not sure if anyone here is familiar, but every time I look at the NOMACs I can't help but think of the servitors from Destiny.



Forgive me if this comparison was made before, I haven't read all 71 pages!  Haha

And I can't help but think of Flight of the Navigator.

Compliance!



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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2501 on: December 03, 2015, 12:30:04 PM »
Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2502 on: December 03, 2015, 12:30:28 PM »
Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2503 on: December 03, 2015, 12:30:59 PM »
tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes

I think that we all tried that haha  :rollin

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2504 on: December 03, 2015, 12:32:02 PM »
After today, I have no clue what's going on anymore.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2505 on: December 03, 2015, 12:32:11 PM »
Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes
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« Reply #2506 on: December 03, 2015, 12:32:59 PM »
I wish I knew what I was allowed to discuss :mehlin

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« Reply #2507 on: December 03, 2015, 12:34:01 PM »
Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes

Trolling us is the most obvious answer  :biggrin:

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2508 on: December 03, 2015, 12:34:47 PM »
Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes

Trolling us is the most obvious answer  :biggrin:
Trolling us by confirming the title of the first single.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2509 on: December 03, 2015, 12:35:11 PM »
I wish I knew what I was allowed to discuss :mehlin

if you aren't sure. Don't discuss anything. And definitely don't link to any music on youtube or elsewhere.

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« Reply #2510 on: December 03, 2015, 12:36:30 PM »
Must... resist... this is so hard!!

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« Reply #2511 on: December 03, 2015, 12:38:07 PM »
Oh shoot, sorry I misinterpreted what you said (my bad). Thanks for clarifying,  it's all good. :blush

I could have worded that better as well. But yeah no worries, things like that happen when you're not talking face to face, everything's good :)
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« Reply #2512 on: December 03, 2015, 12:39:21 PM »
I wish I knew what I was allowed to discuss :mehlin

Read this (I'm guilty of skimming it over before today, so no worries :)):

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=7.0
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2513 on: December 03, 2015, 12:39:34 PM »
The fact that they release The Gift of Music as the first single also hints towards the idea that the first two songs a) won't be actual songs or b) will be instrumental, just because it wouldn't make sense to release a song from a rock opera that's set somewhere in the middle of the story. At least that's how I see it, I don't know how they handled that with SFAM.

Like a few people already said, I think Descent of the NOMACS will probably be some sort of introduction to the NOMACS (heavy, weird opening to the album) while Dystopian Overture will be serve the function Overture 1928 had on SFAM (thus, being instrumental).

I feel like the songs marked with the NOMACS will be tied together (using the same riffs or variations thereof) and am fairly certain that they will be some sort of music, but not the pretty kind. Maybe something heavily distorted,  maybe even noise or industrial-ish? It's also notable that the marked songs all sound like they would be NOMACS songs, even if there were no little NOMACS next to them (Descent of the NOMACS, The Hovering Sojourn, Digital Discord, Machine Chatter and Power Down all relate to the machines in some way)

Judging from the track list, I would guess that at least these songs are actual, longer songs:

The Gift of Music
A Savior in the Square
Heaven's Cove
Whispers on the Wind
Hymn of a Thousand Voices

Thats just 5 songs, but thats because I'm only listing the ones where I feel certain that they could be indeed actual, standalone songs. There probably are a few more. Judging from the structure of the last few tracks, I'm also feeling that Astonishing (even though it's the title track) won't be an overly long epic, but more of an epilogue. If I had to bet money on it, I would guess that Hymn of a Thousand Voices is the climax of the story. Our New World could be a short spoken intermission, Power Down will probably be the ending of the NOMACS (being the final part of the 5 part NOMACS "song") - the story would be pretty much over by this point. I can't see how Astonishing would make sense as a final kick-ass epic song here. It could be a lot like the latest Muse album where Drones (also the title track) feels a lot like it's the last part of the song before (The Globalist) and basically serves as a moody way to end the story.

That's just my thoughts. Oh, and I don't like the album cover that much.

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« Reply #2514 on: December 03, 2015, 12:40:07 PM »
I wish I knew what I was allowed to discuss :mehlin

if you aren't sure. Don't discuss anything. And definitely don't link to any music on youtube or elsewhere.

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« Reply #2515 on: December 03, 2015, 12:44:59 PM »
Just keep looking.  A gift of music awaits.  :corn:
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2516 on: December 03, 2015, 12:45:13 PM »
I've listened to the song....and i love it.

I really like how they went in a kinda "soft" direction with sounds and riffs in general, it fits James' voice very well...looking forward to hear the whole thing

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #2517 on: December 03, 2015, 12:46:03 PM »
Pretty retro stuff.

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« Reply #2518 on: December 03, 2015, 12:47:35 PM »
I already found it. I know obviously not to link it hear but for those who haven't heard it yet, just know that it's awesome. I'm more excited for this album than I already was and that's saying a lot.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with album cover!)
« Reply #2519 on: December 03, 2015, 12:48:10 PM »
The fact that they release The Gift of Music as the first single also hints towards the idea that the first two songs a) won't be actual songs or b) will be instrumental, just because it wouldn't make sense to release a song from a rock opera that's set somewhere in the middle of the story. At least that's how I see it, I don't know how they handled that with SFAM.

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