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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1680 on: November 25, 2015, 11:12:27 AM »
If you could ask the band one question at this stage about the new record, what would it be?

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1681 on: November 25, 2015, 11:14:36 AM »
If you could ask the band one question at this stage about the new record, what would it be?

HAVE YOU NAILED THE PRODUCTION THIS TIME ?!

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1682 on: November 25, 2015, 11:16:48 AM »
BTW i don't think that the music of new Megadeth's album compares to the beautiful cover....

I wonder why it is that with DT in particular it is so easy to judge the music by the cover? I mean, honestly I wouldn't have been able to say from the cover of I&W that it would be as epic as it is. If I hadn't heard PMU before I bought it, I probably would have not picked it up. Similarly, I don't think the cover of SFAM is indicative of the quality of the music therein.

I think we as fans have gotten used to DT producing awesome music and their covers have become more iconic to us, so we hope for amazing covers that would reflect the awesomeness of the music.

That being said.... I don't know what to expect from TA's cover, since I have no idea, really, of what the NOMACS represent in the story.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1683 on: November 25, 2015, 11:17:51 AM »
If you could ask the band one question at this stage about the new record, what would it be?

Good question! (Welcome to the forums btw  :) )

I'm not sure really what I'd ask at this point (since I know they're going to slowly be revealing new stuff). Perhaps I'd ask them which direction they feel like they're gravitating towards in terms of genre and style and what influences they'll be incorporating into this album.

But most importantly . . .

Are there lyrics by Myung??? (Those are always my favorite songs  ;) )
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1684 on: November 25, 2015, 11:19:17 AM »
I'm just anxious to hear the first snippet / single.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1685 on: November 25, 2015, 11:19:55 AM »
Are there lyrics by Myung??? (Those are always my favorite songs  ;) )

I do not have inside info on that and want to make it clear that I am just speculating when I say this:  Given how many tracks there are and the fact that he has been contributing again, I would say it is almost a certainty.

If you could ask the band one question at this stage about the new record, what would it be?

HAVE YOU NAILED THE PRODUCTION THIS TIME ?!

I sort of asked JP that in connection with DT12 and BTFW (although more tactfully and indirect), and the response both times was along the lines of "I think it sounds great!"  So...  :dunno:
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1686 on: November 25, 2015, 11:23:56 AM »
I'm just anxious to hear the first snippet / single.

 :tup to that . . . We need a single!!!
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1687 on: November 25, 2015, 11:24:37 AM »
I'm just anxious to hear the first snippet / single.

 :tup to that . . . We need a single!!!

They ended recording late Sep and began mixing Oct 13.

I don't think a teaser or snippet is too far away.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1688 on: November 25, 2015, 11:27:20 AM »
To be fair, they also thought DT12 sounded great...

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1689 on: November 25, 2015, 11:30:46 AM »

I sort of asked JP that in connection with DT12 and BTFW (although more tactfully and indirect), and the response both times was along the lines of "I think it sounds great!"  So...  :dunno:

Apart from Noel Gallagher *** - i don't think i've seen any artist belittle their latest album after it's just come out.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1690 on: November 25, 2015, 11:31:36 AM »
*** - Standing on The Shoulder of Giants had just come out and someone asked him what it was like and he said :

" i'd give it 8 out of 10. There's two shit songs on it ".

:lol gotta love Noel.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1691 on: November 25, 2015, 11:34:56 AM »
Will there be any violin in ''Whispers on the Wind'' ?

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1692 on: November 25, 2015, 11:38:36 AM »
Will there be any violin in ''Whispers on the Wind'' ?

idk . . . sounds like a cool idea for the title though!

I don't think we know anything about the music yet . . .
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1693 on: November 25, 2015, 11:39:41 AM »
I'll be happy if it sounds like SFAM musically.

I'm dreading a lot of medieval sounding music with lutes and flutes and shit.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1694 on: November 25, 2015, 11:40:06 AM »
*** - Standing on The Shoulder of Giants had just come out and someone asked him what it was like and he said :

" i'd give it 8 out of 10. There's two shit songs on it ".

:lol gotta love Noel.

That's just too awesome!  :lol :rollin

Yep, definitely got to love that level of honesty xD
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1695 on: November 25, 2015, 11:41:03 AM »
I'll be happy if it sounds like SFAM musically.

I'm dreading a lot of medieval sounding music with lutes and flutes and shit.

If they try that a few times here and there I wouldn't mind, but all over the place . . . yeah wouldn't want that either!
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1696 on: November 25, 2015, 11:48:04 AM »
If you could ask the band one question at this stage about the new record, what would it be?

Probably either how many songs over 8 minutes there are, or how continuous the tracks are.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1697 on: November 25, 2015, 11:50:50 AM »
If you could ask the band one question at this stage about the new record, what would it be?

Probably either how many songs over 8 minutes there are, or how continuous the tracks are.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1698 on: November 25, 2015, 11:52:26 AM »

I sort of asked JP that in connection with DT12 and BTFW (although more tactfully and indirect), and the response both times was along the lines of "I think it sounds great!"  So...  :dunno:

Apart from Noel Gallagher *** - i don't think i've seen any artist belittle their latest album after it's just come out.

:lol  I hear you.  I wouldn't expect that either.  But on the other hand, if John wasn't happy with the production, given that those were just private conversations between he and I, I would think he would say something along the lines of, "We are really happy with the songs, but hearing the final version, the final sound isn't 100% to where I would like it."  But he seemed genuinely happy with it.  That isn't to say he is wrong.  I'm just saying that, going back to the original question, I think if we were to ask the band whether they nailed the production this time, they would just say "yes" because it seems that they have been happy with where the production has been in the past, regardless what some of us might think.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1699 on: November 25, 2015, 11:55:07 AM »
Mangini at least has been very vocal about his dissatisfaction with his drum sounds.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1700 on: November 25, 2015, 12:00:14 PM »
If you could ask the band one question at this stage about the new record, what would it be?

How did you discover Jie Ma and why did you chose to have him do the artwork for the new album instead of going with Hugh Syme?

Yes I care more about the artwork than the content of the album  :lol

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1701 on: November 25, 2015, 12:02:14 PM »
I don't think we could have taken another go around of " What has Hugh fucked up / half-assed this time ? "

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1702 on: November 25, 2015, 12:04:03 PM »
If you could ask the band one question at this stage about the new record, what would it be?

Did JP used his baritone this time?

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1703 on: November 25, 2015, 12:05:02 PM »
Where has Mangini talked about the drum sound on dt12? I'm curious. 'Cause that mechanical triggered snare... It's not by mistake.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1704 on: November 25, 2015, 12:06:47 PM »
I've seen snippets of interviews where he says he didn't like the snare sound on DT12 and he was too quiet on ADTOE.


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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1705 on: November 25, 2015, 12:10:04 PM »
Also he replied to my comment.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1706 on: November 25, 2015, 12:18:12 PM »
Nice.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1707 on: November 25, 2015, 12:24:08 PM »
That comment/reply was from months ago, but yeah, cool.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1708 on: November 25, 2015, 12:26:21 PM »
If you could ask the band one question at this stage about the new record, what would it be?

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1709 on: November 25, 2015, 12:27:13 PM »
Well, my problem with the snare isn't the sound itself, it's the fact that it's so mechanical sounding - every hit is identical. So if he's still using a triggered snare sound, I'm not too hopeful.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1710 on: November 25, 2015, 12:32:04 PM »
Well, my problem with the snare isn't the sound itself, it's the fact that it's so mechanical sounding - every hit is identical. So if he's still using a triggered snare sound, I'm not too hopeful.

That's a Mangini thing, not a triggered snare thing. He's far too precise with every snare hit, and that was kind of annoying for me in songs like The Bigger Picture.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1711 on: November 25, 2015, 12:38:12 PM »
He's the damn trigger.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1712 on: November 25, 2015, 01:09:01 PM »
One thing I would like to know if with the last updates that's it for the European Tour, i.e. no Eastern Europe at all (and no South-West) or if this is just the 1st (bigger) pre-Easter go, and a second shorter will follow early April.
I secured a perfect central seat for Sat 19 in Milan, but wanted to be sure I wouldn't eventually sell it to buy a ticket in Rome in case they will come here as well later on - with same show. This leads to the doubt if it's not the case to buy NOW a discounted train ticket to Milan saving a lot of money...
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1713 on: November 25, 2015, 01:22:07 PM »
My question would be: are you sure you got enough good songs to fill 2 CDs? Hope so.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1714 on: November 25, 2015, 01:25:25 PM »
One thing I would like to know if with the last updates that's it for the European Tour, i.e. no Eastern Europe at all (and no South-West) or if this is just the 1st (bigger) pre-Easter go, and a second shorter will follow early April.
I secured a perfect central seat for Sat 19 in Milan, but wanted to be sure I wouldn't eventually sell it to buy a ticket in Rome in case they will come here as well later on - with same show. This leads to the doubt if it's not the case to buy NOW a discounted train ticket to Milan saving a lot of money...
Yeah you couldn't care less I know ;D , but just wanted to get your advise.
They were in Milano in 2014 and came in Rome this year so I think they'll skip 2016. But since they're probably going to play only songs from The Astonishing maybe they'll add some dates