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Will the new Star Wars movie top Avatar at the box office?

Started by Chino, October 29, 2015, 06:19:06 AM

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Avatar is #1 of all time in both the domestic and global box office. Will Star Wars VII top that?

Yes
61 (81.3%)
No
11 (14.7%)
Only domestically
3 (4%)

Total Members Voted: 75

bosk1

Okay, well that seems excessive by any measure.  I mean, good for him for supporting something he likes, but still.

Kotowboy


Chino

Quote from: bosk1 on January 19, 2016, 11:05:02 AM
Quote from: Kotowboy on January 19, 2016, 09:37:45 AM
Not cheap enough to see the same movie 10 times  :biggrin:

Honestly, I don't get spending the money to see a movie 10 times.  It seems silly to me.  But then I have to remind myself that humans are silly creatures, and whatever that thing is that really does it for us, whether it is a sports team, or a movie, or a band, or whatever, we are easily driven to excess and do similar things.  So even though I personally don't get why someone would want to see any movie 10 times in a theater, and especially a movie that I personally don't feel rates even a second in-theater viewing, I do get it on the level that Avatar was one of "those things" for Chino, and some of his repeat viewings were (if I'm not mistaken) going along with others who wanted to go see it.  So if I'm honest with myself, I can't really criticize too much.

Ditto. For the record, three of those viewings were dates (though I may have used one of the girls as an excuse to see the movie again), and several of the other times were just going out with friends. Viewings 8 and 9 were at a mom and pop theater and only cost $3.00 a ticket (less than a small popcorn at the nearby nice theater). Though I did obtain a copy early and watched it at home probably a half dozen times before it was out of the theater.

As for doing the same thing that many times, I don't know. To me, Avatar wasn't a movie, it was a ride. It was a ride with a limited lifespan that I wanted to go on as many times as I could before the option was no longer there. I didn't really care at all about the story or the dialogue. Cameron could have released a movie that was just touring Pandora with the occasional explosion for three hours, and I would have loved it just the same.

BlackInk

The most I've seen movies in theaters is 5 times, and those two movies were Avatar and The Force Awakens, so I fully sympathize with both sides of the argument here.

Quote from: gmillerdrake on January 19, 2016, 11:22:19 AM
There's a guy in my office that has seen TFA 15 times already.....and he just told me he's going to see it again on Thursday.

Although this is just crazy.

Kotowboy

Hey Chino...Let's do something special tonight  :-*

I know exactly the thing babe  ;) x

Oh nice !  :laugh: Can't wait

AVATAR in IMAX 3D !!! :chino:

:'( :'(

Chino

Every year on my birthday I make Victoria watch it with me in 3D.

Kotowboy

Do you make her watch it in an ice bath so she turns blue ?

Chino

Quote from: Kotowboy on January 19, 2016, 11:47:39 AM
Do you make her watch it in an ice bath so she turns blue ?

Nah. She voluntarily puts the paint on.

Kotowboy


gmillerdrake

Quote from: Chino on January 19, 2016, 11:47:00 AM
Every year on my birthday I make Victoria watch it with me in 3D.

Does she thoughtfully smile?

cramx3

Is this why you want the Oculus Rift?  So you can both put the VR sets on and pretend to be Navi?

Chino

Quote from: gmillerdrake on January 19, 2016, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: Chino on January 19, 2016, 11:47:00 AM
Every year on my birthday I make Victoria watch it with me in 3D.

Does she thoughtfully smile?

She smile legitimately, but that might be due to the fact that she won't have to watch it again for another year.

Quote from: cramx3 on January 19, 2016, 12:09:16 PM
Is this why you want the Oculus Rift?  So you can both put the VR sets on and pretend to be Navi?

More or less

hefdaddy42

I saw Monty Python & the Holy Grail probably 40 times in a theater.

Of course, it was while I was in college, and the arthouse theater on the main college thoroughfare showed it for $1.00 every Wednesday night at midnight.  So it became a "thing".
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Kotowboy


kaos2900


Kotowboy

I'm guessing it expects Rogue One to have the same legs as Episode 7 or doesn't want to release two major Star Wars movie 6 months apart.

Chino

Quote from: Kotowboy on January 20, 2016, 11:54:27 AM
Disney has pushed Episode 8 back to December 2017.

Fucking A. That's when Avatar 2 is getting released.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Chino on January 20, 2016, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: Kotowboy on January 20, 2016, 11:54:27 AM
Disney has pushed Episode 8 back to December 2017.

Fucking A. That's when Avatar 2 is getting released.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Kotowboy


kaos2900

I would be much more concerned if I were Avatar than Star Wars. That being said, I think the nostalgia and quality of Episode VII had more to do with it's success than being released in December. Not sure if I agree with the logic unless they are trying to make it a yearly tradition that a new star wars film will be release in the middle of December.

Chino

If you think about it... the amount of free advertising it will give both movies will be insane. They might actually both benefit.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Chino on January 20, 2016, 12:46:49 PM
If you think about it... the amount of free advertising it will give both movies will be insane. They might actually both benefit.
Possible.

But I suspect that Avatar winds up moving.

If for no other reason than the delays it has already had make it more likely to be delayed again.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Chino

Actually, I'm willing to bet Avatar 2 gets delayed again. They are filming all three movies at once and as far as I know they haven't started shooting yet. I don't see how they'll have a movie ready in two years time. Maybe Disney knows something we don't and knows there wont be competition due to Avatar's delay.

There won't be enough Imaxx screens for both movies. My money is definitely on an Avatar delay :(

bosk1

Quote from: Chino on January 20, 2016, 12:51:27 PM
Actually, I'm willing to bet Avatar 2 gets delayed again. They are filming all three movies at once and as far as I know they haven't started shooting yet. I don't see how they'll have a movie ready in two years time. Maybe Disney knows something we don't and knows there wont be competition due to Avatar's delay.
If it does get moved, Disney should troll them by moving SW VIII to coincide with the new date, and keep doing that every time Avatar II gets moved.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Chino

Well shit.

https://www.slashfilm.com/avatar-2-delayed-again-wont-meet-christmas-2017-window/

QuoteThere was already speculation that Avatar 2 wasn't going to meet the estimated release when Star Wars: Episode VIII moved to December 15th, 2017, a full seven months after the previously planned May 2017 release date. Disney clearly knew they weren't going to have any major competition at the box office and also wanted that Christmas money for their merchandise release. Plus, there's no way Disney would willingly take on Avatar 2 with the chance of having a smaller IMAX screen count, especially when there's an Avatar installment planned for their theme parks.

TL

It's only a matter of time before Cameron announces his ambitious "One film per decade" Avatar release schedule, which he totally planned from the start and it was his vision and not a series of comically long production delays.  :lol

Zantera

I can just imagine how the push-back of Avatar happened. After the announcement about Star Wars moving to Christmas, some studio-guy went to Cameron and the conversation looked something like this:

"So, how's Avatar going.. maybe you need some more time?"
-"It's on schedule and everything is good"
"We can give you more time if you feel pressured"
-"No it's fine, everything is coming along nicely"
"But what about this creature design, maybe another month and you can make it even cooler?"
-"Maybe.. I guess"
"Good, we're moving it away then!"

Chino

There's no way Disney moved Star Wars to Decenmber without already knowing before hand that Avatar had been pushed back. Disney wouldn't want the competition, regardless how great the movie may be. And Avatar is getting it's own land in a Disney park that they were trying to coincide the opening of with the sequel's release. Disney was probably made aware Avatar would be being delayed for weeks now, maybe months.

Kotowboy

If Episode 8 does the same business as 7 - it'll plateau by early January. Avatar 2 could come out on January 18 instead.

Zantera

Episode 8 won't make the same business as 7, but that kinda goes without saying. Whether Ep.7 ends up at 2.2 billion, 2.5 or whatever, it is the result of a lot of people being curious and the hype being as massive as it has been. Even though most people really liked the film, the box is open now. A lot of people won't rush out and see the next, especially not 4-5 times. It's the same fate that awaits Avatar 2. But the thing is, these sequels doesn't need to top, or make as much as the "first". Even if Avatar 2 or Star Wars 8 only makes 1.5 billion, that's still crazy money compared to the budget.

Kotowboy

Like Chino said - I can see Avatar 2,3 & 4 making $1bn each.

Kotowboy

TFA made about half this weekend what it did last weekend so it'll probably get $2bn but not much more.


Zantera

I don't think ~15 million domestically is that bad considering this is the poorest weekend during the whole year. People just don't have the same money to go out to the cinema after the long month with Christmas and everything. Revenant won and it was only about a million higher. If you think next weekend is gonna be another 50% drop then you're crazy.

Kotowboy