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« Reply #140 on: August 11, 2016, 07:24:25 AM »
They're screwed either way.  If they make a heist film with a large cast, it will ultimately be compared to the "Ocean's" films.  People will say that they just copied those films and remade them with an all female cast.  They might get minor props for not calling it a remake, but will lose points for copying the concept.

One problem filmmakers face is that movies have been around for a long time now, and it's hard to come up with completely new, original ideas for films.  Not films that have a pretty good chance of making big bucks anyway.  Independent films with new and unusual premises come out all the time, but how many do you hear about?  How many get big-studio releases?

I'm not saying it doesn't happen.  Inception was a pretty wacky concept.  What Dreams May Come, although that's a bit older even now.  I'm just trying to think of films that really made me think "Wow, that's different."  It doesn't happen a lot.

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« Reply #141 on: August 11, 2016, 11:05:11 AM »
I should follow up, now that I read that article all the way through (somehow..... the gushing and fawning was a bit ridiculous) that their main point is valid and one I've made myself. Instead of rebooting/remaking these movies and gravytraining on established franchises, make your own movies.

Yeah, this. I'd like for them to stop trying to bank on famous titles and make new movies. Make a movie about a group of women robbing a bank or casino or something? Fine, great, do it. But call it "Ocean's"? Now suddenly I have a problem with it.

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« Reply #142 on: August 11, 2016, 05:18:50 PM »
Universal is going to remake Scarface...again! This could be good if it does what Brian de Palma's remake did in the 80s and reflect the time that it is being made. The original Howard Hawks film reflected the Prohibition era in Chicago with an Italian mob boss. De Palma's 80's remake with Pacino is the most famous one, which was set in Miami, and instead of alcohol, it was cocaine!

The new remake is supposed to set in LA and made by Training Day director Antione Fuqua, who is a hit or miss for me. I think everyone has in their head that the character is going to be Tony Montana, but I really hope it isn't. There could be gang member from Compton or a Mexican drug lord in LA named Tony that can continue the "Rise and Fall" aspect of its predecessors.

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« Reply #143 on: August 22, 2016, 08:05:48 PM »
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« Reply #144 on: August 23, 2016, 04:53:01 AM »
I should follow up, now that I read that article all the way through (somehow..... the gushing and fawning was a bit ridiculous) that their main point is valid and one I've made myself. Instead of rebooting/remaking these movies and gravytraining on established franchises, make your own movies.

Yeah, this. I'd like for them to stop trying to bank on famous titles and make new movies. Make a movie about a group of women robbing a bank or casino or something? Fine, great, do it. But call it "Ocean's"? Now suddenly I have a problem with it.
I don't have a problem - and I don't think anyone should have a problem - with them making an female-led Ocean's film if it's a spin-off or sequel or whatever. The thing that irritated me about Ghostbusters was that it was a remake. Why? Why couldn't they tell a new story, set some years after the originals, with a group of new characters? Why tell the original story but change the men to women? That's lazy, whereas writing a new story set in that same franchise/fictional universe is entirely legit in my opinion.

So far, it's not clear which Ocean's Eight will be. If it's essentially a sequel, then I'm absolutely fine with that. If they go all Ghostbusters and essentially remake the original, then that's just dumb.

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« Reply #145 on: August 23, 2016, 07:35:22 AM »
Well there's only eight of them, so obviously it's a completely different story.

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« Reply #146 on: August 23, 2016, 02:57:10 PM »
I don't have a problem - and I don't think anyone should have a problem - with them making an female-led Ocean's film if it's a spin-off or sequel or whatever. The thing that irritated me about Ghostbusters was that it was a remake. Why? Why couldn't they tell a new story, set some years after the originals, with a group of new characters? Why tell the original story but change the men to women? That's lazy, whereas writing a new story set in that same franchise/fictional universe is entirely legit in my opinion.

So far, it's not clear which Ocean's Eight will be. If it's essentially a sequel, then I'm absolutely fine with that. If they go all Ghostbusters and essentially remake the original, then that's just dumb.

I actually agree with this. Someone I subscribe to on Youtube re-pitched the new Ghostbusters movie where the main women were like the daughters of the original crew. There was more to it than that, but it actually sounded interesting.
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« Reply #147 on: August 23, 2016, 02:59:42 PM »
Ghostbusters 2016 would have had less uproar I think if it was Ghostbusters 3 and the opening was the remaining original cast retiring and handing it over to the new cast.

Just flat out re-doing the first movie with new people is stupid. WHOEVER is in the cast.

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You have the same 4 female leads and make your own brand new IP.

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« Reply #148 on: August 23, 2016, 05:54:24 PM »
There's a new Blair Witch coming out in September?

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Yes! I am so stoked about this. I've been a huge fan of these movies, even the pointless, yet entertaining, second movie. I became a bit obsessed with the movies. Years back I met a few people from the Blair Witch forums at the filming locations. We actually spent a night in the woods there. Even though it's completely fictional, the aura surrounding the films was enough to plant the seed to make the night a sleepless one.

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« Reply #149 on: August 23, 2016, 10:31:44 PM »
Somebody is making a "realistic" Power Rangers movie reboot, said a hilarious IGN article that I couldn't find a link to now.
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« Reply #150 on: August 24, 2016, 12:00:58 AM »
I don't have a problem - and I don't think anyone should have a problem - with them making an female-led Ocean's film if it's a spin-off or sequel or whatever. The thing that irritated me about Ghostbusters was that it was a remake. Why? Why couldn't they tell a new story, set some years after the originals, with a group of new characters? Why tell the original story but change the men to women? That's lazy, whereas writing a new story set in that same franchise/fictional universe is entirely legit in my opinion.

So far, it's not clear which Ocean's Eight will be. If it's essentially a sequel, then I'm absolutely fine with that. If they go all Ghostbusters and essentially remake the original, then that's just dumb.

I actually agree with this. Someone I subscribe to on Youtube re-pitched the new Ghostbusters movie where the main women were like the daughters of the original crew. There was more to it than that, but it actually sounded interesting.
Yeah, something like that, or a group of women discovering what the original cast had done and taking it on themselves. There are loads of ways they could have done it. When the first trailer (I think) landed, it made it seem like that was how it was being done as made reference to the original crew "30 years ago". Turns out it was just talking about the original film, which is really dumb for a trailer.

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« Reply #151 on: August 24, 2016, 12:01:54 AM »
Somebody is making a "realistic" Power Rangers movie reboot, said a hilarious IGN article that I couldn't find a link to now.

Do you mean the fan short film that was shown a year ago where they made a gritty unrecognizable thing that was called Power Rangers? Or do you mean the Hollywood reboot movie that they revealed months ago?
Basically they're doing what every other Hollywood movie is doing, and just turning it into gritty Batman/Ironman. Power Rangers without the cheese isn't even Power Rangers.
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« Reply #152 on: August 24, 2016, 02:03:17 AM »
Yep, I mean the Hollywood reboot and I totally agree about cheeseless Power Rangers.
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« Reply #153 on: August 24, 2016, 02:11:36 AM »
It just looks too serious from what I've seen/heard so far, with little connection to the original show. You can make something less silly without making it all gritty and losing the fun. Marvel manages to do it.
I'm just over Hollywood watering everything down to be the same movie these days. Why bother rebooting something if you're not going to utilize any of what made it unique and appealing to people in the first place?
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« Reply #154 on: August 24, 2016, 04:03:45 AM »
It just looks too serious from what I've seen/heard so far, with little connection to the original show. You can make something less silly without making it all gritty and losing the fun. Marvel manages to do it.
I'm just over Hollywood watering everything down to be the same movie these days. Why bother rebooting something if you're not going to utilize any of what made it unique and appealing to people in the first place?
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with it - if as a writer/director you see unutilised potential in something then remaking/rebooting it in a way that fits your vision can work well (Battlestar Galactica is the perfect example of this).

I'm not saying that's what I expect in any way from Power Rangers. :lol Just saying that the situation itself isn't inherently bad.

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« Reply #155 on: August 24, 2016, 04:08:35 AM »
Certainly there are reboots that take something that perhaps didn't reach its full potential the first time, and become something better, but those are rare imo. In principle there's no reason it can't work though.
But most reboots are just lazy cash-ins by studios where they'll take something 100% for name recognition, then repackage it into familiar and generic Hollywood fare in an attempt to appeal to a larger audience, but without the key elements that made them appeal to audiences in the first place. It's purely about money.
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« Reply #156 on: August 24, 2016, 04:13:06 AM »
The Fly with Jeff Goldblum was a remake but apparently only kept the fact that he became a fly from the original movie.

That's the best kind of remake. Just keep the DNA of the original and make everything else your own.

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« Reply #157 on: August 24, 2016, 04:24:07 AM »
It comes down to how/why it's done. The new Planet of the Apes movies are another example of doing it right. They've done something new with it, been respectful to the original, and had thought put into them. Compare it to the Tim Burton remake, which was completely soulless, and was an empty movie that missed the mark.

The difference is remaking/rebooting something for an idea, rather than for a name. I wouldn't say the original version of The Fly was really a hugely popular thing by the time they remade it, unlike Ghostbusters which is still beloved today, but a man turning into a fly from an experiment gone wrong is an interesting idea, and didn't have a lot of other elements to capture or lose in the process (I've seen the original, but not the '80s one, strangely enough).

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« Reply #158 on: August 24, 2016, 04:43:47 AM »
From memory I remember the Fly doing very well. I get what you say about the original. 

I think with the advances of CGI that we will see even more remakes these,days. 
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« Reply #159 on: August 24, 2016, 04:48:26 AM »
Ironically we probably will get a The Fly remake....

Directed by some no name director who directed one moderately successful jump-scare teen horror ...

This time the Fly will be a slasher / stalker and a group of teens stumble across his lab in the woods.

Oh God it's going to happen.





I thought RoboCop 2014 had some good ideas and did something different with it. it's a shame the studio so clearly interfered and just filled it with pointless inconsequential action.

The action in RoboCop 2014 was the worst part. It was the man V machine stuff that was interesting and should have been explored more.

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« Reply #160 on: August 24, 2016, 04:57:12 AM »
imo Robocop was the perfect example of an empty remake just for name recognition, that lacked any of defining characteristics about the original. It was yet another Batman/Iron Man/Transformers inspired dude in a watered down PG13 action movie that will be quickly forgotten. The original Robocop had satire, it had extreme violence, it had personality, things that could have set a remake apart from other modern movies.
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« Reply #161 on: August 24, 2016, 05:04:29 AM »
The original felt like a comic book.
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« Reply #162 on: August 24, 2016, 05:46:22 AM »
imo Robocop was the perfect example of an empty remake just for name recognition, that lacked any of defining characteristics about the original. It was yet another Batman/Iron Man/Transformers inspired dude in a watered down PG13 action movie that will be quickly forgotten. The original Robocop had satire, it had extreme violence, it had personality, things that could have set a remake apart from other modern movies.

It tried something new and (imo) didn't just shit all over the original.

Total Recall 2012 was far worse. It was just blah and basically took the piss out

of the original.

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« Reply #163 on: August 24, 2016, 06:13:20 AM »
imo Robocop was the perfect example of an empty remake just for name recognition, that lacked any of defining characteristics about the original. It was yet another Batman/Iron Man/Transformers inspired dude in a watered down PG13 action movie that will be quickly forgotten. The original Robocop had satire, it had extreme violence, it had personality, things that could have set a remake apart from other modern movies.

It tried something new and (imo) didn't just shit all over the original.

Total Recall 2012 was far worse. It was just blah and basically took the piss out

of the original.

I haven't seen the new Total Recall and don't want to. The original is perfection.
I didn't feel like the reboot Robocop brought anything new to it. To me it was mostly a watered down family friendly version of the original, and I felt like including the original suit for a short while was crapping on the original more than honoring it. If they'd done it more in the style of the recent Dredd movie, it could have been way better.
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« Reply #164 on: October 28, 2016, 05:19:15 PM »
New RAMBO movie going forward without Sylvester Stallone.

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« Reply #165 on: October 28, 2016, 05:43:41 PM »
That actually makes me more optimistic.

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« Reply #166 on: October 28, 2016, 05:55:28 PM »
They'll probably just cast some unknown bodybuilder.

Or someone really f---ing obvious like Dwayne Johnson.

Which might be cool i guess ?

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« Reply #167 on: October 28, 2016, 07:30:36 PM »
They'll probably just cast some unknown bodybuilder.

Or someone really f---ing obvious like Dwayne Johnson.

Which might be cool i guess ?

And he'll be wearing his same costume from Fast 5.

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« Reply #168 on: October 28, 2016, 08:28:03 PM »
From what I read, they are not trying to straight up reboot Rambo: First Blood, but rather use the Rambo character to springboard a new franchise. I rather they do what they did with Mad Max: Fury Road, and just continue the existing franchise with a new actor (although that might be hard to do since Stallone had really aged in the last film)

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« Reply #169 on: October 28, 2016, 09:33:55 PM »
Not interested. Rambo is Stallone. And modern action movies usually suck anyway.
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« Reply #170 on: November 07, 2016, 07:07:54 PM »
I called this one a while ago, and im surprised it's taken this long: An American Werewolf In London is being remade
 

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« Reply #171 on: November 07, 2016, 08:42:38 PM »
I called this one a while ago, and im surprised it's taken this long: An American Werewolf In London is being remade

Looks like it's being written/directed by Max Landis (son of the guy who did the original). No clue if he can direct, but the dude has an insane writing style, so it will be very very weird at the very least.
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« Reply #172 on: November 07, 2016, 09:39:24 PM »
According to IMDb, his favorite film is An American Werewolf in London, by his father John Landis (duh).  So this could be interesting.

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« Reply #173 on: November 08, 2016, 12:45:37 PM »
I called this one a while ago, and im surprised it's taken this long: An American Werewolf In London is being remade

Looks like it's being written/directed by Max Landis (son of the guy who did the original). No clue if he can direct, but the dude has an insane writing style, so it will be very very weird at the very least.

He wrote Chronicle and directed me Him Her which was an online only movie. . . HITB reviewed it.

He also wrote American Ultra.

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« Reply #174 on: November 08, 2016, 12:48:12 PM »
I called this one a while ago, and im surprised it's taken this long: An American Werewolf In London is being remade

Looks like it's being written/directed by Max Landis (son of the guy who did the original). No clue if he can direct, but the dude has an insane writing style, so it will be very very weird at the very least.

He wrote Chronicle and directed me Him Her which was an online only movie. . . HITB reviewed it.

He also wrote American Ultra.

Oh I didn't know he directed anything. I haven't seen Chronicle, but since so many movies are blatantly ripping it off, it must have had some good stuff.

Also didn't see American Ultra (just hard to motivate me to watch an Eisenberg movie) but I did see Mr. Right, which he wrote, which was hilarious and amazing. And I've seen him on certain youtube channels a lot, often pitching movies, making it all up on the spot, and the dude has talent. At least as a writer.
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