Official NHL 2015-2016 Thread

[gmillerdrake]

Blues traded Brian Elliot to the Flames for the 35th pick (second round) and a conditional 2018 pick. Wow....didn't see that one coming.

Just heard about this from three different people.  Word is we would have lost one of our goalies in the expansion draft anyway, and they obviously see Allen as the long term guy, not Elliot, but still, I would have like to have gotten a little more for him.

that's my only disappointment. We basically gave him away. I'm fine with handing it over to Allen. I think he's 'better' than Elliot skill wise.....he could stand to learn from Elliots mental tenacity though.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Blues traded Brian Elliot to the Flames for the 35th pick (second round) and a conditional 2018 pick. Wow....didn't see that one coming.

Just heard about this from three different people.  Word is we would have lost one of our goalies in the expansion draft anyway, and they obviously see Allen as the long term guy, not Elliot, but still, I would have like to have gotten a little more for him.

At least it's a high second rounder, so it's not too bad.

[gmillerdrake]

Blues traded Brian Elliot to the Flames for the 35th pick (second round) and a conditional 2018 pick. Wow....didn't see that one coming.

Just heard about this from three different people.  Word is we would have lost one of our goalies in the expansion draft anyway, and they obviously see Allen as the long term guy, not Elliot, but still, I would have like to have gotten a little more for him.

At least it's a high second rounder, so it's not too bad.

This just means Calgary will beat us in the playoffs next season....

[SchecterShredder]

Shaw was definitely a good pickup for the Habs for the picks the gave up. An upgrade in offense on Eller, that's for sure.

[SchecterShredder]

Blues traded Brian Elliot to the Flames for the 35th pick (second round) and a conditional 2018 pick. Wow....didn't see that one coming.

Just heard about this from three different people.  Word is we would have lost one of our goalies in the expansion draft anyway, and they obviously see Allen as the long term guy, not Elliot, but still, I would have like to have gotten a little more for him.

I'm not sure the Blues would have necessarily lost a goalie in the expansion draft. Depending on what happens with Fleury in Pitt, the Fleury/Murray tandem or Bishop/Vasilesky in Tampa would be stretched attractive choices for a tender. Blues are up there too, for sure, but Vasilesky is a top young goalie and Bishop is a legit veteran starter. They could be proper screwed in the expansion.

[TAC]

Well, isn't Bishop already on the block? And Las Vegas still has to choose 3 goalies.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Shaw was definitely a good pickup for the Habs for the picks the gave up. An upgrade in offense on Eller, that's for sure.

Yeah. Eller is better defensively, but Shaw will be better help for our offense while also helping clear up the logjam of centers we have among the low lines. Only worry are rumours Shaw is asking for a heftier contract than he's worth. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.

[SchecterShredder]

Well, isn't Bishop already on the block? And Las Vegas still has to choose 3 goalies.

That's true. It would be a total dick move though to pick 3 ready to start goalies, just to have to send one to the minors lol

[Nick]

Love what the Flyers did with their trade today. Moved from 16 to 20, while still getting a player that we needed, while moving from the tail end of the 3rd round and early into the 2nd. Great move by Hextall.

Still pales in comparison to how Ken Holland fleeced that kid in Phoenix.

[Jarlaxle]

Love what the Flyers did with their trade today. Moved from 16 to 20, while still getting a player that we needed, while moving from the tail end of the 3rd round and early into the 2nd. Great move by Hextall.

Still pales in comparison to how Ken Holland fleeced that kid in Phoenix.

At first I thought the same, but Arizona got the guy they debated over picking at 7. They unloaded Vitale and his $1.1 million, and just lose a late 2nd round pick, which history tells us won't likely become an NHLer, not to mention this draft isn't considered very deep outside the first round. They don't even have to pay Datsyuk, just have his number on the books for a year, which helps them get to the cap floor this year, probably the only team in the NHL that the  $7.5 million is meaningless, even perhaps helpful too. They got Chychryn, who has the potential to be a very good dman in this league. That alone is worth it in my opinion. Arizona is going to be good in a few years if they can keep it together.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

So glad Bitten fell to the 3rd to us. I'm thinking playing in Flint hurt his stock, along with being on the smaller side. He should have gone early 2nd IMO.

[TheCountOfNYC]

Blues traded Brian Elliot to the Flames for the 35th pick (second round) and a conditional 2018 pick. Wow....didn't see that one coming.

Just heard about this from three different people.  Word is we would have lost one of our goalies in the expansion draft anyway, and they obviously see Allen as the long term guy, not Elliot, but still, I would have like to have gotten a little more for him.

At least it's a high second rounder, so it's not too bad.

This just means Calgary will beat us in the playoffs next season....

I'm glad I'm not the only sports fan who expects these type of things.

[gmillerdrake]

Blues traded Brian Elliot to the Flames for the 35th pick (second round) and a conditional 2018 pick. Wow....didn't see that one coming.

Just heard about this from three different people.  Word is we would have lost one of our goalies in the expansion draft anyway, and they obviously see Allen as the long term guy, not Elliot, but still, I would have like to have gotten a little more for him.

At least it's a high second rounder, so it's not too bad.

This just means Calgary will beat us in the playoffs next season....

I'm glad I'm not the only sports fan who expects these type of things.

Ha ha. It's just 'what' happens.....you've seen it.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Victor Mete! Montreal is having a crazy good draft! Fell due to being a small defenseman, but he basically already has elite skating ability and is a crazy good puck mover. I feel like all my wishes are coming true this draft.

EDIT: K, not happy about the 5th round pick. Staum looks like a big longshot. I'll trust the magic of the Timmins 5th round pick, but Stransky would've been nice.

EDIT 2: Now I'm starting to wonder if Stransky uploaded a video of himself smoking out of a bong on Twitter. The guy could have gone in the 2nd round, probably should have gone 3rd. Yet here we are in the 6th and he's still up for grabs.

EDIT 3: Wild got Sokolov. Similar situation to Stransky.

EDIT 4: Stransky undrafted. WOW. This is insane.

[TheCountOfNYC]

Blues traded Brian Elliot to the Flames for the 35th pick (second round) and a conditional 2018 pick. Wow....didn't see that one coming.

Just heard about this from three different people.  Word is we would have lost one of our goalies in the expansion draft anyway, and they obviously see Allen as the long term guy, not Elliot, but still, I would have like to have gotten a little more for him.

At least it's a high second rounder, so it's not too bad.

This just means Calgary will beat us in the playoffs next season....

I'm glad I'm not the only sports fan who expects these type of things.

Ha ha. It's just 'what' happens.....you've seen it.

As a Jets and Rangers fan, I've seen it way too many times.

[mikeyd23]

Word around Pittsburgh is that the Pens plan on starting next season with both Fleury and Murray on the roster... I think that's the smartest move for the team. Someone will need moved before the expansion draft so the team can actually get something in return, but I think its a good idea to have both around to make sure you know what you have in Murray.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

I get the temptation for the Pens to move Fleury, but yeah I think keeping him for now is the right move. Love Matt Murray since he's a hometown boy (who's my age, so maybe I've met him before) but he's still unproven as far as I'm concerned. I'd love nothing more than to see him become a true star though.

[SchecterShredder]

Yeah. Eller is better defensively, but Shaw will be better help for our offense while also helping clear up the logjam of centers we have among the low lines. Only worry are rumours Shaw is asking for a heftier contract than he's worth. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.

Shaw deal is pretty reasonable in my opinion. 6 years at just under $4M per is a good number in today's inflated NHL market. What do you think as an actual Habs fan?

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Yeah. Eller is better defensively, but Shaw will be better help for our offense while also helping clear up the logjam of centers we have among the low lines. Only worry are rumours Shaw is asking for a heftier contract than he's worth. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.

Shaw deal is pretty reasonable in my opinion. 6 years at just under $4M per is a good number in today's inflated NHL market. What do you think as an actual Habs fan?

The original rumours were 4.5 so I'm relieved. Some people are pretty mad about it but I basically agree with you. The term might be a bit long considering guys who play that rough on the body style he does tend to exit their prime sooner, but otherwise not too bad. He's the kind of guy I think can flourish in our system too. Hopefully I'm right!

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

HALL TO THE DEVILS! Adam Larsson part of the trade. More details coming? Also, Chia has now trades the top 2 pocks from the 2010 draft.

EDIT: There are people saying it's a one-for-one. It can't be...

EDIT 2: It's a one-for-one. Pardon my French but what the FUCK Chiarelli? Apparently he hates that draft class because he's traded both the top 2 picks for hilarious underpayments. I understand the Oilers' need for a defenseman, but you gotta at least get more pieces than Adam Larsson. He's a great defender who hasn't reached his ceiling but Hall is one of the best left wingers in the NHL.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

SUBBAN FOR WEBER WHY WHAT NO WHAT WHY AHHHH I HATE EVERYTHING

EDIT: Alright initial rage period cooling off. Yeah, I'm done defending Bergevin. Subban is far better than Weber, and at a younger age. Nashville just improved drastically, and we've gotten drastically worse. I don't really care who we sign in the free agency, Montreal is a worse team now.

[mikeyd23]

SUBBAN FOR WEBER WHY WHAT NO WHAT WHY AHHHH I HATE EVERYTHING

EDIT: Alright initial rage period cooling off. Yeah, I'm done defending Bergevin. Subban is far better than Weber, and at a younger age. Nashville just improved drastically, and we've gotten drastically worse. I don't really care who we sign in the free agency, Montreal is a worse team now.

Yikes, yeah sorry man. That's not a good trade for Montreal...

[SchecterShredder]

HALL TO THE DEVILS! Adam Larsson part of the trade. More details coming? Also, Chia has now trades the top 2 pocks from the 2010 draft.

EDIT: There are people saying it's a one-for-one. It can't be...

EDIT 2: It's a one-for-one. Pardon my French but what the FUCK Chiarelli? Apparently he hates that draft class because he's traded both the top 2 picks for hilarious underpayments. I understand the Oilers' need for a defenseman, but you gotta at least get more pieces than Adam Larsson. He's a great defender who hasn't reached his ceiling but Hall is one of the best left wingers in the NHL.

Yeah we lose that trade. Larson fits a need, for sure, but fuck me. Hall is top 3 at his position. Larson is not. DAMN YOU CHIARELLI!!

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

That was one of the weirdest half hours in NHL offseason history that's for damn sure.

[SchecterShredder]

Subban for Webber makes no sense from the Habs perspective. Sure, Webber might be more physical and a little better defensively, but he's quite a bit older and on a 30 year contract or something ridiculous like that.

[mikeyd23]

Agreed. Subban and Hall are MUCH better than Weber and Larsson.

[Mr. Ister]

Montrelol

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

I guess cronyism prevails over the team itself in Montreal. So strange how the "crazy" Hab fans ended up being right for once.

Subban for Webber makes no sense from the Habs perspective. Sure, Webber might be more physical and a little better defensively, but he's quite a bit older and on a 30 year contract or something ridiculous like that.

Weber in his prime was better defensively. Subban outdoes him now though. Weber plays the body like a champ sure, but when it actually comes to suppressing offense Subban wins pretty handily. Physicality can be misleading sometimes.

[SchecterShredder]

sports radio here in Edmonton is going crazy right now. They're doing open line if you want to hear fans rant about how they're going to piss on Chiarelli's grave 

https://player.tsn1260.ca/

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Bergevin is giving a press conference at 6:15 and I'm about 70% sure he won't make it there without getting ganged up on by an army of enraged Hab fans.

On the other note, Nashville's top 4 defense looks like something someone put together on NHL 16.

[axeman90210]

Welcome to New Jersey Taylor Hall

[TAC]

  DAMN YOU CHIARELLI!!

Get used to it!

Just wait till he overpays Lucic. WTF. He has now traded BOTH Seguin and Hall!


Lots of WOW going on and it's only Wednesday. Can't wait for Friday!!!

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

I feel so betrayed. Defending Bergevin from crazy Hab fans all time. Now he's turned me into one of them.

[TAC]

Why would they trade Subban? I couldn't believe they were even considering it.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

I got Bergevin at first for at least listening to offers in case of a huge overpay. This is just horrible. Shea Weber is only better in all those really cliche overrated departments (MOAR LEADERSHIP, MOAR GRIT, MOAR BIG). Like at least Edmonton addressed an issue, albeit it's still a terrible trade for them. There are no upsides to this trade for Montreal.

On an attempt to have some sort of positivity: I welcome Shea Weber with open arms. He's still at least in the top 20 defenders in the league, and I love watching him play. I just wish it didn't happen like this. And I'll still cheer on Subban. Hopefully he racks up another Norris or two playing for a team who (hopefully) actually respects him.

EDIT: My poor Gally.