The DTF Old As Mold Club v. 40 IS The New 30! Kids Stay Out!

[El Barto]

Man...I almost croaked from old age digging to find this fucker.  I guess we all had senior moments and forgot about this bitch.  Anyways.... I can't wait for 8 more years to pass so I can retire.  So tired of working for this shit hole company.  Yeah... I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I know a lot of folks have it a lot worse than me, but man I hate this cheap ass company.  Retirements calling!!!!!!!

Union troubles still afflicting you? I know it's unrelated to your steelworker amigos, but the longshoreman strike out there has certainly been a headache for me. Some material that I was in dire need of finally showed up from Asia and after sitting around the Pacific for two weeks finally had to be routed to the East coast via Panama.

As for retirement, I still think of that as mythical.

[lonestar]

Man...I almost croaked from old age digging to find this fucker.  I guess we all had senior moments and forgot about this bitch.  Anyways.... I can't wait for 8 more years to pass so I can retire.  So tired of working for this shit hole company.  Yeah... I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I know a lot of folks have it a lot worse than me, but man I hate this cheap ass company.  Retirements calling!!!!!!!

Union troubles still afflicting you? I know it's unrelated to your steelworker amigos, but the longshoreman strike out there has certainly been a headache for me. Some material that I was in dire need of finally showed up from Asia and after sitting around the Pacific for two weeks finally had to be routed to the East coast via Panama.

As for retirement, I still think of that as mythical.

Twenty years still. Sigh...

[Orbert]

I don't even have a retirement target date, in years, based on my age, or whatever.  The house won't be paid off for another 10 years, so hopefully I can keep working until at least then.  I haven't saved jack shit towards retirement, despite everyone and everything saying I should for the past 20 years, because we've been perpetually in debt due to my wife never keeping a job and being unemployed more years of our marriage than she's been employed.  So while saving up for retirement is a good and smart thing, so is paying the electricity bill and making the house payment, so those kinda came first.  The only real savings we have is my 401(k), which currently has about one year's salary (of mine) in it.  It'll compound a bit in the next 10 years, but will hardly be the nest egg that most people would count on.

Meanwhile, my mom died and my dad has a boatload of money which my sisters and I will split when he passes.  I know this because he sends financial statements to us twice a year.  So it sucks to think of it this way, but he's 84 now, and the odds are that he'll pass sometime in the next ten years, leaving us enough money to pay off the house and put the kids through college.  Except by then the house will be paid off and the kids will (hopefully) be done with college, so that will become our nest egg.  If my dad's still around, great, I'll just keep working.  I'll have nothing else to do at that point anyway.

So the only variable -- and it's a biggee -- is whether I'll be able to find/keep a job until then.  Where I'm at now, I've been there 10 years and they love me, but that's no guarantee that I'll be there another 10.

[King Postwhore]

What's retirement?

[Kotowboy]

Just reserving a seat on the bus for 3 years and 5 months.

See you then

[CrimsonSunrise]

Union troubles still afflicting you? I know it's unrelated to your steelworker amigos, but the longshoreman strike out there has certainly been a headache for me. Some material that I was in dire need of finally showed up from Asia and after sitting around the Pacific for two weeks finally had to be routed to the East coast via Panama.

As for retirement, I still think of that as mythical.

Yeah, amazingly we won our dispute.  The strike lasted a meager 52 days.  I was expecting 3-6 months realistically, and then still losing.  I was shocked that we actually didn't lose anything major.  Yeah, the trickle down effect from the longshoremans work slow down affected a lot of people.  After going through what I went through though, I empathize with the situation they were in.  Sucks though to be the poor merchant or person waiting on equipment or just stuff in general.

I don't even have a retirement target date, in years, based on my age, or whatever.  The house won't be paid off for another 10 years, so hopefully I can keep working until at least then.  I haven't saved jack shit towards retirement, despite everyone and everything saying I should for the past 20 years, because we've been perpetually in debt due to my wife never keeping a job and being unemployed more years of our marriage than she's been employed.  So while saving up for retirement is a good and smart thing, so is paying the electricity bill and making the house payment, so those kinda came first.  The only real savings we have is my 401(k), which currently has about one year's salary (of mine) in it.  It'll compound a bit in the next 10 years, but will hardly be the nest egg that most people would count on.

Meanwhile, my mom died and my dad has a boatload of money which my sisters and I will split when he passes.  I know this because he sends financial statements to us twice a year.  So it sucks to think of it this way, but he's 84 now, and the odds are that he'll pass sometime in the next ten years, leaving us enough money to pay off the house and put the kids through college.  Except by then the house will be paid off and the kids will (hopefully) be done with college, so that will become our nest egg.  If my dad's still around, great, I'll just keep working.  I'll have nothing else to do at that point anyway.

So the only variable -- and it's a biggee -- is whether I'll be able to find/keep a job until then.  Where I'm at now, I've been there 10 years and they love me, but that's no guarantee that I'll be there another 10.

I've been fortunate enough to be with the some company for 25 years.  If I would have been REALLY smart I would have maxed my 401k from the get go, but like you say...electric bills and rent kinda hinder that.  I'm also a firm believer in live for the now as much as you can too.  I've seen too many folks reach retirement age then croak.  For me it's been a balancing act, Now vs. Retirement.  By the time I hit 59.5 in 8 years I HOPE I'll be able to be comfortable enough to live where I want and do the things I want.  Now, we all know anything can happen, and plans change.  All we can do is roll with it.  My wife sounds a bit like yours.  It would be really nice to have a full time, stable second income.

[El Barto]

I thought of something interesting the other day. We were all around for some awesome tours. You mention here or on some other forum that you saw the Damage Inc. tour or the World Piece tour all of these kids will say how lucky you are and how they'd kill to have been able to see some band back 30 years ago when they were still good. Yet, all of those kids would have absolutely hated those shows. They're so sued to modern tours that an actual rock concert would traumatize them.

"It was awful! The sound was terrible. It took two weeks to get the smell out of my hair. My ears won't stop ringing. I couldn't see because people were standing on their chairs. Some asshole was smoking marijuana next to me the whole night. A preacher told me I was going to hell. People kept screaming the whole time. When I held my phone up to film the thing somebody smashed me the head with a whiskey bottle."

[Orbert]

I don't go to many concerts nowadays, mostly because tickets now cost as much as a small car, but the last one I went to (Foo Fighters Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace) was insanely loud.  I wore ear plugs and still had no problem hearing every note, and every word Dave said.  So I don't know if "kids today" would complain about the sound being too loud.

The rest, I can see, but my experience is limited.  How are concerts today different from in the past?

[hefdaddy42]

I never went to a lot of concerts when I was younger.

Of course, I don't go to a lot of concerts now, either.

[King Postwhore]

I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter in a water gun fight on Sunday at a party.


I pulled a hamstring.


That is all.

[TAC]

I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring.

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!

[El Barto]

I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring.

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!

Talked to my old man today and he's nursing a bit of a sunburn. Seems his step-granddaughter's graduation culminated in an all day pool party with 15 of her friends and he felt compelled to hang out in the backyard for longer than he probably should have.

High school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same.

[El Barto]

The rest, I can see, but my experience is limited.  How are concerts today different from in the past?

In the old days a rock concert was as much about the lifestyle as it was seeing the band. Now it's simply a recital. While I do appreciate modern sound quality, and old man that I am I enjoy being able to sit down, but the hooliganism that accompanied seeing VH or Ozzy is sorely missed.

[TAC]

I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring.

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!

Talked to my old man today and he's nursing a bit of a sunburn. Seems his step-granddaughter's graduation culminated in an all day pool party with 15 of her friends and he felt compelled to hang out in the backyard for longer than he probably should have.

High school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same.

Sounds like he could've used some..um..protection.

[Orbert]

The rest, I can see, but my experience is limited.  How are concerts today different from in the past?

In the old days a rock concert was as much about the lifestyle as it was seeing the band. Now it's simply a recital. While I do appreciate modern sound quality, and old man that I am I enjoy being able to sit down, but the hooliganism that accompanied seeing VH or Ozzy is sorely missed.

Ah, got it.  To be honest, even back in the old days, I was more annoyed than anything else by all the people who went to concerts and clearly had the musical performance itself relatively low on their priority list.  I was there first and foremost to hear the music, second to see the band.  Yeah, the crowd, the venue, the event, the atmosphere, those were all important.  It was exciting to be a part of a huge crowd all digging the same thing.  And there was also the unspoken comraderie; I didn't go to a whole lot of concerts, but had complete strangers share their smoke with me more than once.

But for the most part, I really wished people would just sit down and shut the hell up so I could see and hear the show I came to see and hear.  The big reason why I don't go to concerts any more is the price, but that's coupled with the idea of paying big money and not really enjoying the show.  If you can actually see and hear the performance these days, then I consider that a step in the right direction.  Of course, the vast majority of bands I like either aren't around any more or sound like crap these days.

[King Postwhore]

I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring.

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!

Talk about being part of the media and picking out and cut and pasting lines together to fit your dirty little agenda.

I chased after my friend's 16 year old daughter at a party....I pulled a hamstring.

Not sure if you should go directly to the hospital...or the Police Station!

Talked to my old man today and he's nursing a bit of a sunburn. Seems his step-granddaughter's graduation culminated in an all day pool party with 15 of her friends and he felt compelled to hang out in the backyard for longer than he probably should have.

High school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same.

Same here.  I brought a hat and didn't wear it.  the dome is taking a beating today.

[El Barto]

I'm guessing a few people in here remember Hickory Farms. Occurs to me that it's pretty much a thing of the past once they left every single mall in America. The gift boxes were a popular thing to hand out for the executives, so they showed up somewhat frequently at my old man's place. They're probably banned by the FDA by now but I remember them somewhat fondly. I also loved all of the hard candies flavored after mixed drinks you could buy at the mall. MAAD probably put a stop to that 30 years ago, though.

[hefdaddy42]

I'm guessing a few people in here remember Hickory Farms. Occurs to me that it's pretty much a thing of the past once they left every single mall in America. The gift boxes were a popular thing to hand out for the executives, so they showed up somewhat frequently at my old man's place. They're probably banned by the FDA by now but I remember them somewhat fondly. I also loved all of the hard candies flavored after mixed drinks you could buy at the mall. MAAD probably put a stop to that 30 years ago, though.

They are still around.  And they still show up in the local malls at holiday time.

[King Postwhore]

There are always prominent during the holiday seasons in Kiosks in the mall.  They used to have permanent store up here but there are long gone now.

[TAC]

Hickory Farms was perfect for the "What do I get my girlfriend's parents for Christmas" problem.



Oh, and Orange Julius FTW!!!

[El Barto]

I'm guessing a few people in here remember Hickory Farms. Occurs to me that it's pretty much a thing of the past once they left every single mall in America. The gift boxes were a popular thing to hand out for the executives, so they showed up somewhat frequently at my old man's place. They're probably banned by the FDA by now but I remember them somewhat fondly. I also loved all of the hard candies flavored after mixed drinks you could buy at the mall. MAAD probably put a stop to that 30 years ago, though.

They are still around.  And they still show up in the local malls at holiday time.

Oh, I know they're still around. They just seem to have lost all relevance without being in every mall. When was the last time you actually got a gift box from them? I didn't now they set up shop in kiosks during Christmas, though. I avoid malls like the plague for the last 2+ months of the year, whenever they convert to Christmas nonsense.

And yeah, it was always the perfect gift for oddballs that didn't warrant more thoughtful presents.

[King Postwhore]

Yeah fining a parking spot during the Christmas season is as fun as poking your eyes out.

[CrimsonSunrise]

Hickory Farms was perfect for the "What do I get my girlfriend's parents for Christmas" problem.



Oh, and Orange Julius FTW!!!

Damn....I was supposed to by prezzies for the GF's folks???  That explains lots!!!     As far as concerts, I know I'm getting old cause I don't think I could do a General Admission seating show anymore.  I need my nice, comfy, spacious seat    Yeah... I'll stand and rock out....just don't wanna be part of the pit anymore....

[Kwyjibo]

Some weeks ago there was the 30th anniversary of one of the biggest open air concerts in Germany: Rock am Ring, a three day festival. For this year the concert moved to a new location and I saw a report on TV about people complaining about thre camping grounds: Too few toilets, too much mud, no electricity, too few showers, a long way to the parking lot etc.

What happened to the young folks? Why are they so whiny? This is a rock festival not a five star camping trip!

I was there a couple of times in the early 90s when I was in my early 20s. The camping grounds were some meadows or parking lots. There were maybe three mobile toilets for the whole camping ground and they were thrown over by some assholes regularly. Naturally there were no showers and there was a lot of mud because at least on one day it was raining heavily. If you wanted electricity you either brought a generator or a car battery and the only use for electricity was to blast some music.

We usually had a tent, a lot of alcoholic beverages, maybe some non-tobacco products, we saw a lot of bands, we rocked out, we headbanged till our necks hurt and we had a lot of fun. 

For a shit you went into the woods and you definitely didn't need a shower. Maybe now I'm too old for this shit, but the people they showed in that report were early 20s, not some old farts like me. And I'm not saying that everything was perfect back then but none the less it was legendary for all of us and today is still remembered fondly. We were there for the music and the fun and we had lots of it. I think the young ones I saw on TV wouldn't have lasted an hour before running home crying when they were there back then.

[Cyclopssss]

Yeah, young folks these days....funny how easily shocked they are. 

Went to some sleazepunk-coverband and didn't expect too much of it. Saw some old friends and made some new. 

Thouroughly rocked out to the band which turned out to be kickass!  Didn't even wear any earplugs! 

Had a couple beers too many and had to take a cab home. Got home around three in the morning. 

Woke up with a slight hangover, but totally worth it! Fuck, I still rock at 50! 

[CrimsonSunrise]

Yeah, young folks these days....funny how easily shocked they are. 

Went to some sleazepunk-coverband and didn't expect too much of it. Saw some old friends and made some new. 

Thouroughly rocked out to the band which turned out to be kickass!  Didn't even wear any earplugs! 

Had a couple beers too many and had to take a cab home. Got home around three in the morning. 

Woke up with a slight hangover, but totally worth it! Fuck, I still rock at 50! 

Dude...you're making the rest of us old fukkers look weak......

Keep rockin Brotha! 

[King Postwhore]

Noticed he hasn't posted since he partied.   

It takes a lot longer to recoupe these days.

[hefdaddy42]

No kidding

[King Postwhore]

So you know your old when you hesitate to see a movie in the drive in when it's the second one showing.  Lol

[CrimsonSunrise]

Wow...you still have a drive in??  I haven't seen one in decades.

[Cyclopssss]

Noticed he hasn't posted since he partied.   

It takes a lot longer to recoupe these days.

Ouch. Now that hurt, brother! You're right though. Went to a beachparty (dont'ask) oh my f'ing god, the things I've seen... partied till one o' clock of the morn, then stumbled off to bed.
Party went on untill six in the morning....yeah. Sometimes you have to CHOOSE your battles! 

[jingle.boy]

Is it just me, or is it absolutely-fucking-fantastic how there are still a ton of REAL fogeys - ie, 40+ - around these here parts?  Pretty soon, 50+ is going to be the requirement for the "fogey" handle.

Youth is wasted on the young.

[El Barto]

Is it just me, or is it absolutely-fucking-fantastic how there are still a ton of REAL fogeys - ie, 40+ - around these here parts?  Pretty soon, 50+ is going to be the requirement for the "fogey" handle.

Youth is wasted on the young.

Us old farts don't go anywhere. We're set in our ways. The youngins all move on to the next shiny object.

[Kwyjibo]

Once you reach a certain wisdom age, you don't have to be everywhere, you stay where it's nice and cozy.

[King Postwhore]

Where else can you bitch about concert ushers?  Lol