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Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« on: June 10, 2015, 12:59:03 PM »
Hello and welcome to my 3rd (Semi-)Annual Neal Morse Survivor, for the 2015 season! Here I will post the album results, and eventually, the finals! To start off with, I'll post the track lists/options for each survivor, then as we finish each album, I'll update the track lists with the final results.

As usual, each album's 3rd place song will move to Consolation, with the exception Testimony, which will have it's 5th and 6th place songs move into Consolation, while it's top 4 songs will move to the Finals (as I have done with previous double albums in other Survivors).

Because of that, the Consolation Rounds will consist of 9 songs (2 from Testimony, and 1 each from the other 7 albums) and the Finals will consist of 20 songs (4 from Testimony, and 2 from each of the other 7 albums, plus the top 2 of the Consolation Rounds).

***Due to lack of interest in them, the first two solo albums, the self-titled debut and It's Not Too Late, will be omitted for this year's survivor.***

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Testimony
1. It's All I Can Do
2. Sing It High
3. Somber Days
4. Oh, To Feel Him

5. Wasted Life
6. Sleeping Jesus

7. The Promise
8. Power In The Air
9. Colder In The Sun
10. The Land Of Beginning Again (1)
11. The Prince Of The Power Of The AIr
      Ready To Try
13. California Nights
14. Moving In My Heart
15. Break Of Day
      Transformation
      I Am Willing
      The Storm Before The Calm
19. In The Middle
      God's Theme
21. Overture No. 1
      Overture No. 2
23. Rejoice
      God's Theme 2
25. Long Story
      Oh Lord My God
27. Overture No. 3
28. Interlude
      The Land Of Beginning Again (2)

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One (Restored Tracklist)
1. The Creation
2. Author Of Confusion

3. The Separated Man
4. Cradle To The Grave
5. Reunion
6. Help Me / The Spirit And The Flesh
7. Father Of Forgiveness
8. The Man's Gone
9. Nothing To Believe
10. Back To The Garden
      King Jesus

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?
1. In The Fire
2. 12

3. Sweet Elation
4. Entrance
5. Solid As The Sun
6. Another World
7. Inside His Presence
8. Outside Looking In
9. The Temple Of The Living God (1)
10. The Temple Of The Living God (2)
11. The Glory Of The Lord
12. The Outside

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Sola Scriptura
1. The Conflict
2. The Door

3. The Conclusion
4. Heaven In My Heart

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Lifeline (Special Edition)
1. Leviathan
2. Lifeline

3. So Many Roads
4. Children Of The Chosen
5. Fly High
6. God's Love
7. The Way Home
    Set The Kingdom
9. Sometimes He Waits

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Testimony Two
1. Seeds Of Gold
2. It's For You

3. The Truth Will Set You Free
4. Time Changer
5. Nighttime Collectors
    Crossing Over / Mercy Street Revisited
7. Mercy Street
    Time Has Come Today
9. Jesus' Blood
10. Overture No. 4
      Chance Of A Lifetime
      Jesus Bring Me Home
13. Jayda
      Road Dog Blues
      Supernatural
16. Absolute Beginner

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Momentum
1. World Without End
2. Thoughts Part 5

3. Momentum
4. Freak
5. Smoke And Mirrors
6. Weathering Sky

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The Grand Experiment (Special Edition)
1. The Call
2. Alive Again

3. Waterfall
4. New Jerusalem (Freedom Is Coming)
5. Doomsday Destiny
6. The Grand Experiment
    Agenda

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Consolation
1. The Separated Man
2. The Conclusion

3. Sweet Elation
4. The Truth Will Set You Free
5. So Many Roads
6. Wasted Life
7. Sleeping Jesus
    Momentum
9. Waterfall

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Finals (Beginning November 19th)
1. Seeds Of Gold
2. The Separated Man
3. The Creation
4. World Without End
5. Author Of Confusion
6. The Call
7. 12
8. The Door
9. Alive Again
10. In The Fire
11. The Conflict
12, It's For You
13. Somber Days
14. Sing It High
15. It's All I Can Do
16. Thoughts Part 5
      The Conclusion
18. Oh, To Feel Him
19. Lifeline
20. Leviathan

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Covers Survivor
Tuesday Afternoon (The Moody Blues)
Find My Way Back Home (Blind Faith)

Where The Streets Have No Name (U2)
Day After Day (Badfinger)
What Is Life (George Harrison)
I'm Free / Sparks (The Who)

Pleasant Valley Sunday (The Monkeys)
Badge (Cream)
Maybe I'm Amazed (Paul McCartney)
Where Do The Children Play (Cat Stevens)
I'm The Man (Joe Jackson)
Feeling Stronger Everyday (Chicago)
Rock And Roll Suicide (David Bowie)

Crazy Horses (The Osmonds)
Lemons Never Forget (The Bee Gees)
The Letter (Joe Cocker version)
(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love & Understanding (Elvis Costello)
Starless (King Crimson)

Lido Shuffle (Boz Scaggs)
I Saw The Light (Todd Rundgren)
Rikki Don't Lose That Number (Steely Dan)
Teacher (Jethro Tull)
Driven To Tears (The Police)
Come Sail Away (Styx)
Southern Man / Needle And The Damage Done / Cinnamon Girl (Neil Young)

MacArthur Park (Richard Harris)

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-Marc.
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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2015, 01:02:24 PM »
My first question to the folks participating: Should I include the Richard Harris cover, "MacArthur Park", in the Special Edition Track list of The Grand Experiment? It *IS* a cover song, albeit a wildly re-arranged one by Bill, but up until its release, Mike and Randy (and who knows who else) were convinced it would be on the album proper, but I guess Neal or the others vetoed that out and it was relegated to Bonus Disc status.

But because it was considered for placement on the main album, I'm tempted to keep it on THAT album's survivor, but I am tinkering with the idea of doing a fun "Covers Survivor" after the whole thing is done with Finals and all, and could possibly place "MacArthur Park" in THAT survivor, and just leave TGE with its 7 original songs and not include the cover.

What do you guys think - leave "MacArthur Park" on TGE or exclude it (and save it for the Covers survivor)?

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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2015, 01:09:28 PM »
I'm following!  Thanks for running yet another survivor poll.

Regarding MacArthur Park: it's a "grand" :biggrin: rendition, but my opinion can be expressed in the words of the English Beat: "Save it for Later".
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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2015, 08:21:28 AM »
I would leave off MacArthur Park, and any other covers.

They are covers.

Also, I will not be participating for those first two albums.
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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2015, 09:57:20 AM »
Not that I have listened to the album so much that I could participate, but shouldn't Song From November be part of this? I mean, if you left the first two albums off then that would be fine. But if the Self-Titled and It's Not Too Late are on here, then I think Songs From November should be too.

And, no on MacArthur Park. But, yes on covers Survivor!
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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2015, 10:15:14 AM »
Not that I have listened to the album so much that I could participate, but shouldn't Song From November be part of this? I mean, if you left the first two albums off then that would be fine. But if the Self-Titled and It's Not Too Late are on here, then I think Songs From November should be too.

And, no on MacArthur Park. But, yes on covers Survivor!

Good point, but considering it was a self-made solo album on his own personal record label, Radiant Records, I didn't think to include it. The first two albums he made were released through InsideOut, and at very leasta, the self-titled debut had more prog elements, including a 4-movement epic.

If the general consensus is NOT to include the first two albums and just start with Testimony, then I can do that, which would then mean leaving out Songs From November easily.

Up to you guys - I don't care either way. If not a lot of folks are familiar with them, or care about them enough to participate, then I'll just start with his first major solo prog release.

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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2015, 10:44:24 AM »
I like both first albums, but I could see why most wouldn't vote for them. And since the only prog-ish track on either of those discs is split up, it's no use sending it to the next round.
Again, I'd love to vote for em, but I don't think the songs will get far anyway.
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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2015, 10:53:19 AM »
I like both first albums, but I could see why most wouldn't vote for them. And since the only prog-ish track on either of those discs is split up, it's no use sending it to the next round.
Again, I'd love to vote for em, but I don't think the songs will get far anyway.

Looking at the Finals final ranking on my last Neal Morse Survivor, here's where the four tracks from the first two albums landed:
12. A Whole Nother Trip

20. The Change
21. Living Out Loud
22. It's Not Too Late

And 22 is the last place song, sooooo yeah. That's pretty self-explanatory.

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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2015, 10:40:19 AM »
You could leave off those albums and I wouldn't even notice.
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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2015, 08:47:54 AM »
The Survivor for Testimony is finally over with, and the results have been posted in the OP.

The top four songs (It's All I Can Do, Sing It High, Somber Days, Oh, To Feel Him) move to the Finals, while the 5th and 6th place songs (Wasted Life and Sleeping Jesus) move to the Consolation rounds.

ONE has already begun!

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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2015, 05:13:37 PM »
Finally got around to updating this with the results for the first three albums and their Finalists and Consolation songs in their respective survivors near the bottom of the OP.

We're on track through the 4-songs Sola Scriptura, then onto 9 tracks with Lifeline! Halfway through, and oddly enough, we managed to get through SS and ? just around Neal's second MORSEFEST, which featured those albums performed in their entirety! Brilliant!

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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2015, 02:24:12 PM »
The final results for the T2 survivor are in!!!

Final Round's Results:
It's For You 8 (88.9%)
Seeds Of Gold 1 (11.1%)

1. Seeds Of Gold
2. It's For You

3. The Truth Will Set You Free
4. Time Changer
5. Nighttime Collectors
    Crossing Over / Mercy Street Revisited
7. Mercy Street
    Time Has Come Today
9. Jesus' Blood
10. Overture No. 4
      Chance Of A Lifetime
      Jesus Bring Me Home
13. Jayda
      Road Dog Blues
      Supernatural
16. Absolute Beginner

Here we are at the FINAL ROUND, with two songs left and "The Truth Will Set You Free" going to Consolation. Next up, the 6-track album Momentum, starting sometime tomorrow or Wednesday!

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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2015, 12:11:10 PM »
Wrapped up the ending of Momentum, where the album's epic takes the top spot while the Thoughts sequel takes second and joins it in the Finals. The title track moves into Consolation as well.

We're on the final album, Neal's latest with the Neal Morse Band, The Grand Experiment, and then in the next couple of weeks, we'll begin the Consolation Rounds, where nine songs face off to see which of the top two will move on to the Finals!

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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2015, 10:52:35 AM »
Finals' Final Round's Results:
Seeds Of Gold 4 (44.4%)
The Separated Man 5 (55.6%)

Once again, for the 2nd time in a row, "Seeds Of Gold" takes the gold! The final Finals list is updated in the original post, and for comparison, here's the previous Finals line-up from the 2012-2013 Survivor:
1. Seeds Of Gold
2. World Without End
3. The Door
4. The Conflict
5. So Many Roads
6. The Separated Man
7. The Creation
8. The Conclusion
9. Crossing Over/Mercy Street (Reprise)
10. Wasted Life
11. Lifeline
12. A Whole Nother Trip
13. I Am Willing
14. Thoughts (Part 5)
15. Overture No. 1
16. The Storm Before The Calm
17. 12
18. In The Fire
19. Momentum
20. The Change
21. Living Out Loud
22. It's Not Too Late

Thanks again for everyone who stuck it through with this. Is anyone still interested in doing a short Covers Survivor for Neal Morse? If there isn't at least 3 or 4 folks who want to do it, then I'll just forego it this time around and gear up for my Spock's Beard Survivor for 2016!

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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2015, 11:18:51 AM »
So many roads was number 5 last time around (fair spot if you ask me), yet it's nowhere to be seen this time around. Too bad.

Nice number one and solid list overall. Thank you once again for running this, M.  :tup

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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2015, 01:19:22 PM »
So many roads was number 5 last time around (fair spot if you ask me), yet it's nowhere to be seen this time around. Too bad.
...and the new number 5 Author of Confusion was nowhere to be found last time around.

What stands out to me is the resurgence of the One album in the top 5 with both Separated Man and The Creation each moving up 4 spots from last time!  I like it.   :hefdaddy

Great job, M.  Thanks for running this survivor.  It was fun.   :tup
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Re: Neal Morse Survivor 2015 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2015, 03:01:25 PM »
Interesting that a Consolation song only just missed out on winning the whole thing by just 1 vote.