Single best metal male singer ever?

[jjrock88]

If people enjoy listening to growls, then all the power to them

As for me, I'm as rock/metal as it gets. However, the split second I hear a growl, the song is turned off and officially done for me

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

^This.  The unfortunate thing is, sometimes not liking things such as growls gets people like us branded as being narrow-minded musically and not open to other things.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

not liking something i wouldnt say is not being open to other things but people who are all like "i will NEVER EVER like anything with growls in it" yeah that does strike me as narrow minded

[CrimsonSunrise]

not liking something i wouldnt say is not being open to other things but people who are all like "i will NEVER EVER like anything with growls in it" yeah that does strike me as narrow minded

Well put...

I was listening to Queensryche The Warning on the way to work this morn...man...  Tate was a fucking badass!

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Just this past weekend, I was reminiscing about what a badass Tate was.

After having heard Todd nail Queen of the Reich.

Live.

Again.

[TAC]

not liking something i wouldnt say is not being open to other things but people who are all like "i will NEVER EVER like anything with growls in it" yeah that does strike me as narrow minded

It's not narrow minded.
I've used The Onion Analogy before, but in case you missed it, here it is:
I liken Growls to Onions. You can give me the finest steak, but as soon as you put onions on it, it is ruined for me. That's how I feel about growls.

I have tried a number of times to accept them, but I just cannot.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Yeah but that's not what I said. I didn't say people who don't like growls are narrow minded. I said people who have decided not to like them are narrow minded.

edit: It's kind of like someone who says about some album (or really anything, it doesn't have to be music), "This is my favorite and nothing will ever be better." Well of course nothing's ever going to be better for them because they've already decided not to like anything more than that thing, whatever it is. That's the kind of attitude I'm referring to here, not just dislike. Narrow minded doesn't mean not liking things, it means a refusal to consider liking something.

Hopefully this post makes some sense.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Po-tay-to, po-tay-to.  I'm not sure I understand how saying it one way is different than the other.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

ok

[TAC]

Well, it makes sense but I've "decided" I don't like growls. A "never say never" situation I guess.

I'll never make love to a man, but does that make me sexually narrow minded?

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

The edit does make a little more sense.  I don't really agree with it, but what you were trying to convey makes a little more sense.

[jjrock88]

Well, it makes sense but I've "decided" I don't like growls. A "never say never" situation I guess.

I'll never make love to a man, but does that make me sexually narrow minded?

Stick with the onion analogy lol

And I've heard enough growls to know that I will never enjoy them. I also know that there is no chance whatsoever that I will enjoy a country, rap, dance, pop, electronica, trance, hip hop, folk song.

I will gladly admit I am the most closed minded music fan you will find lol

[TAC]

Well, it makes sense but I've "decided" I don't like growls. A "never say never" situation I guess.

I'll never make love to a man, but does that make me sexually narrow minded?

Stick with the onion analogy lol

And I've heard enough growls to know that I will never enjoy them. I also know that there is no chance whatsoever that I will enjoy a country, rap, dance, pop, electronica, trance, hip hop, folk song.

I will gladly admit I am the most closed minded music fan you will find lol

I'm pretty closed minded too. (Don't tell Ninja!)

[Zantera]

I don't think "narrow minded" has to be something negative. I would say my mom is narrow minded with music, she listens to a very limited list of 70's and 80's hard rock/heavy metal/rock bands, but she would be the first to agree with me if I said that. It's not like being open minded and enjoying every genre is superior to having a specific taste and preferring your music to be in certain ways. I can get frustrated when people showcase narrow mindedness, but if they like their limits and listen to the kind of music they like, then that's really all that matters.

As for how it plays into this debate, it depends on what qualifications you want to judge a singer on. A singer having a range that expands into harsh vocals, even if you don't like it, is still showcasing something. It's like talking about who is the best film director. While I don't think so personally, a lot of people would say Spielberg is the best, because he has done great movies in so many different "styles". War movie, sci-fi, action, adventure, comedy, horror, and so on. If you make 5 masterpiece movies across 5 completely different genres, does that make you a better director than someone who has 5 masterpiece movies within the same genre? Some would argue that the variety and range makes the first director superior, but others who mainly watch movies in the genre by the other director would say otherwise. Just a silly comparison, I'm tired.

[bl5150]

Stick with the onion analogy lol

 

And I've heard enough growls to know that I will never enjoy them. I also know that there is no chance whatsoever that I will enjoy a country, rap, dance, pop, electronica, trance, hip hop, folk song.

I will gladly admit I am the most closed minded music fan you will find lol

I pretty much agree with all of this.   Having said that there is that 0.000000001% in my collection where stuff I dislike is used sparingly within music I like.   

Examples:

Run DMC with Aerosmith..........I can listen to that but would never listen to rap/hip hop or similar

After Forever: s/t ............that album made my top 50 and has growls here and there on a couple of tracks , but I was too busy Floorgasming to really give a shit. 


So there you have it - two albums among 5000.  I am a crossover merchant yo 

[Zook]

I didn't start tolerating growls until after my brother and I created KrotchRaut, and that was only to make fun of them. Now some can sound pretty cool to me. I never search them out though. I'd still rather 100% clean singing, but if there are a few growls here and there, I don't mind, unless they sound like ass, which a lot do.

[MoraWintersoul]

I wouldn't want to appear as though I'm forcing anyone to listen to anything, but when people say they've heard enough growls to know they don't like them, there's a 99% chance they haven't. Growls can be amazingly nuanced, emotive and even beautiful. But all the power to you, of course, I'd like to be a BIT more narrow in things I tolerate or like in music, because my pile of albums to listen to would be spiralling out of control even with growls out of the equation

[Sacul]

But all the power to you, of course, I'd like to be a BIT more narrow in things I tolerate or like in music, because my pile of albums to listen to would be spiralling out of control even with growls out of the equation

Mine has already gone crazy with 1000+ records

[The Dark Master]

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