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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2015, 09:37:50 PM »
Well there is this

but yeah largely he's probably not metal, strictly speaking

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2015, 09:55:39 PM »
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2015, 12:46:48 AM »
I realize this is just a personal thing, but I would have really hard time considering someone for "best metal vocalist" if they don't do any type of harsh vocals.

Again, just me, but that's such a huge part of metal, at least the kind I listen to, that I can't really pick someone clean-only.
I agree, even though there are loads of fantastic singers who don't scream or growl.

I think my pick would be Dan Swanö, 'cause he's got a wide range and can also growl. I've seen so few Nightingale live videos (they perform so rarely anyway) that I have no clear idea how strong his live singing is, but he hasn't sounded too bad in any clips.

I also have to give a nod of approval to Tony Kakko (Sonata Arctica), as his range is also impressive, and while he rarely screams or grunts outside of backing vocals, he can handle those types of vocals nicely as well. On top of that he's an entertaining frontman and consistent performer - I've never witnessed a weak performance by him.

Oh yeah, Dan definitely deserves a mention. Probably by favorite voice in death metal.

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2015, 01:09:16 AM »
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2015, 03:16:47 AM »
Corey Taylor is a good all rounder - but he's really patchy live - always out of breath ( the mask probably doesn't help ) and forgets lyrics.

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2015, 03:46:48 AM »
I realize this is just a personal thing, but I would have really hard time considering someone for "best metal vocalist" if they don't do any type of harsh vocals.

Again, just me, but that's such a huge part of metal, at least the kind I listen to, that I can't really pick someone clean-only.

I definitely agree this. If we're talking singer with best range, than some form of harsh vocals pretty much have to be included. Otherwise you're voting with your heart and not your brain.

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2015, 04:55:29 AM »
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2015, 04:57:23 AM »
Well the thread is called best metal singer, and harsh vocals aren't singing, so it makes sense that many are voting that way, even though the OP touches upon growls. Plus that's one part of some sub-genres of recent metal, covering only part of metal history. It's in no way a prerequisite to be considered the best metal vocalist. I think it's a bit narrow minded to consider it that vital.

And being the best vocalist isn't about counting the number of vocal styles you can muster, it's about how good you are at it, so it has nothing to do with "voting with your heart", it's voting with your ears instead of voting with a checklist. Being a jack of all trades isn't something to aim for.

Most importantly to me, there are very few metal singers who do true harsh vocals that I'd call great singers to begin with. I listen to a lot more metal bands with straight up singers instead of growlers, but in my limited experience Christian Älvestam from Scar Symmetry is the only one I've heard worth mentioning. In the same way that some of you might not consider someone who can't growl, I wouldn't consider someone who isn't a great singer either. And I think growling is too subjective a technique to rank, even though there are elements such as depth and range that come into play.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2015, 05:36:49 AM »
Well, yeah, if you want to say that harsh vocals aren't singing, then okay, but that's not what the OP is asking.

And I know that it's just me, but somebody who can do different styles well has a large bonus in my book, but in the end, it all comes down to personal opinion.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2015, 05:55:22 AM »
In all seriousness though, I think my actual vote for best metal singer would go to either Midnight or Roy Khan. I love Bruce Dickinson a great deal, so he'd definitely be a top contender, but there's something of a transcendental quality to Midnight and Khan's voices.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2015, 05:59:24 AM »
In all seriousness though, I think my actual vote for best metal singer would go to either Midnight or Roy Khan. I love Bruce Dickinson a great deal, so he'd definitely be a top contender, but there's something of a transcendental quality to Midnight and Khan's voices.

I can relate to that - I love Khan but he's more a favourite than "best" for me if you know what I mean.  Midnight was actually my first thought but I went with Blackie due to metal attitude as much as anything.  I could make arguments for half a dozen guys but Midnight is right up there and another sadly under rated vocalist.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2015, 06:04:33 AM »
When I read all these discussions on what defines a metal singer I think of the discussion of that stupid dress and think that it's such a stupid discussion.  I've never seen so much thought into a simple answer.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2015, 06:27:42 AM »
In all seriousness though, I think my actual vote for best metal singer would go to either Midnight or Roy Khan. I love Bruce Dickinson a great deal, so he'd definitely be a top contender, but there's something of a transcendental quality to Midnight and Khan's voices.

Khan eliminated himself by quitting metal.  He is one of my favorite vocalist of all time though, definitely up there in terms of vocal abilities, but I couldn't vote for him because he chose to leave metal.

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2015, 07:38:45 AM »
Christian Alvestam

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2015, 08:40:05 AM »
In all seriousness though, I think my actual vote for best metal singer would go to either Midnight or Roy Khan. I love Bruce Dickinson a great deal, so he'd definitely be a top contender, but there's something of a transcendental quality to Midnight and Khan's voices.

Khan eliminated himself by quitting metal.  He is one of my favorite vocalist of all time though, definitely up there in terms of vocal abilities, but I couldn't vote for him because he chose to leave metal.

Oh please, if Khan's eliminated, then no one should dare bring in Geoff Tate into this debate. At least Khan had the decency to depart when he realized that his heart wasn't in it anymore and sought out to find his own personal peace. Tate's just a flat-out insult to metal these days.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2015, 09:44:10 AM »
Nice to see Midnight getting some mentions. Very underrated!

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2015, 10:38:11 AM »
Nice to see Midnight getting some mentions. Very underrated!

Very underrated indeed! I just love that silky, ethereal quality to Midnight's voice. :hefdaddy
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2015, 03:22:52 PM »
Christian Alvestam

As blob said

Christian Alvestam

As blob said

Both of these guys are super underrated.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2015, 03:40:03 PM »
Christian Alvestam

As blob said

Christian Alvestam

As blob said

Both of these guys are super underrated.

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2015, 03:54:20 PM »
In addition to those, I also think Christian Alvestam is pretty underrated.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2015, 04:01:36 PM »
He's so underrated, I've never heard if him! :D
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2015, 04:10:03 PM »
Christian Alvestam

As blob said

Christian Alvestam

As blob said

Both of these guys are super underrated.

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haha, meant to quote Jason's post about Midnight being underrated.

He's so underrated, I've never heard if him! :D

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2015, 04:23:15 PM »
Bruce Dickinson

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2015, 06:51:43 PM »
I would add Daniel Gildenlow (think only at what he can do on The Big Machine or Shore Serenity for example) and Einar Solberg to the list.

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2015, 07:12:27 PM »
He's so underrated, I've never heard if him! :D
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2015, 09:36:36 PM »
He's so underrated, I've never heard if him! :D

I don't think you'd both be into what he does.  He's mainly in the melodic death metal genre.  But the word death in the title doesn't really fit.  It's melodic metal with some growls, good stuff.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2015, 03:39:53 AM »
Well the thread is called best metal singer, and harsh vocals aren't singing, so it makes sense that many are voting that way, even though the OP touches upon growls. Plus that's one part of some sub-genres of recent metal, covering only part of metal history. It's in no way a prerequisite to be considered the best metal vocalist. I think it's a bit narrow minded to consider it that vital.

And being the best vocalist isn't about counting the number of vocal styles you can muster, it's about how good you are at it, so it has nothing to do with "voting with your heart", it's voting with your ears instead of voting with a checklist. Being a jack of all trades isn't something to aim for.

Most importantly to me, there are very few metal singers who do true harsh vocals that I'd call great singers to begin with. I listen to a lot more metal bands with straight up singers instead of growlers, but in my limited experience Christian Älvestam from Scar Symmetry is the only one I've heard worth mentioning. In the same way that some of you might not consider someone who can't growl, I wouldn't consider someone who isn't a great singer either. And I think growling is too subjective a technique to rank, even though there are elements such as depth and range that come into play.
To play the devil's (growlie's) advocate:
1. Growls totally are singing, just a different technique. Most people agree that if you can't sing a note properly you can't growl it either. Regular ole harsh vocals are a bit different, but also take a lot of skills one could only develop by singing (timing, feel, fit, emoting, etc). Growls appear in or dominate all genres of metal except heavy, thrash, power and glam, and they cover the truly innovative part of metal from 1990 onwards, when it was thriving in the underground. So it seems that nowadays, if you're starting a metal band and you need a vocalist, there's about 70% chance that you'll need someone that also growls.

2. Like I said previously, growls are such a huge part of metal that being able to growl isn't being a jack of all trades, it's just something that goes with the territory.

3. No one really said anything about considering people who are good growlers but poor singers, it's just that dismissing growling as an important tool in a metal vocalist's arsenal dismisses most of metal. I am the first to consider good old Brucie and Ronnie to be the best metal singers of all time, but their era wasn't the only trailblazing era of metal, and there's a lot of other standards metal singers need to live up to.

And yeah, most of my choices would not be able to growl, but I get Shadow Ninja's sentiment.

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2015, 08:11:13 AM »
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2015, 08:27:18 AM »
The next time my dog goes nuts when the UPS driver pulls into the driveway, I'm going to record it quick, and build a song around it.

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2015, 08:45:17 AM »
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2015, 08:47:45 AM »
The next time my dog goes nuts when the UPS driver pulls into the driveway, I'm going to record it quick, and build a song around it.

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Plus he could sing about doing it Doggy Style and as much as you could probably help him with the lyrics, I bet he would be all set.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2015, 08:48:33 AM »
 :lol  There don't need to be "lyrics".  He'll growl the whole song and I'll let the public interpret the "lyrics" as they may.

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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #68 on: May 06, 2015, 09:15:04 AM »
:lol  There don't need to be "lyrics".  He'll growl the whole song and I'll let the public interpret the "lyrics" as they may.
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Re: Single best metal male singer ever?
« Reply #69 on: May 06, 2015, 09:55:50 AM »
:lol  There don't need to be "lyrics".  He'll growl the whole song and I'll let the public interpret the "lyrics" as they may.
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