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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #735 on: July 12, 2019, 05:31:33 PM »
I mean you can phrase a lot of things in ways to make them sound unbelievable but I thought it was well done.. huh. Tastes!
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #736 on: July 12, 2019, 09:46:00 PM »
I liked Mr Jinx, and thought he had potential, but he wasn't fleshed out at all. He was just some guy causing problems.

Doesn't every Bond film have this character?  :biggrin:
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« Reply #737 on: July 13, 2019, 12:00:18 AM »
I liked Mr Jinx, and thought he had potential, but he wasn't fleshed out at all. He was just some guy causing problems.

Doesn't every Bond film have this character?  :biggrin:

Yeah, that's true. Lol

In other news, apparently Waltz is coming back.

http://collider.com/bond-25-blofeld-return-christoph-waltz/

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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #738 on: July 15, 2019, 08:24:23 AM »
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While Daniel Craig is set to reprise his role as James Bond in the next film, the franchise is set for a shake-up, with reports claiming that black British actor Lashana Lynch has been cast as 007 – taking over Bond’s secret agent number after his character leaves M16.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/jul/15/lashana-lynch-new-007-james-bond-daniel-craig
Have no idea if this is legit. I saw that she plays a character named Nomi in Bond 25.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #739 on: July 15, 2019, 08:43:25 AM »
How woke of MI6.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #740 on: July 15, 2019, 08:46:17 AM »
So, I want to watch a 007 movie because 007 is James Bond. If she's not James Bond... huh. Well, if this is legit, this is definitely huge for the franchise. But for now I'm going to focus on being excited for Bond 25 and not letting this spoil my hype  :biggrin:
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #741 on: July 15, 2019, 09:53:45 AM »
So, I want to watch a 007 movie because 007 is James Bond. If she's not James Bond... huh. Well, if this is legit, this is definitely huge for the franchise. But for now I'm going to focus on being excited for Bond 25 and not letting this spoil my hype  :biggrin:

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Honestly, so many people are like "Stop trying to force minorities into roles! Just cast the best person for the role regardless of that stuff"
"Fine, we thought the best person for the role was a black woman"
"IMPOSSIBLE! You're just pandering to special interest groups! It's not humanly possible that a minority would be the best choice for something!"

I'm not a James Bond fan by any stretch, but he's been around for decades and I've heard it's been getting stale. I get the decision to change direction a bit.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #742 on: July 15, 2019, 09:58:52 AM »
So, I want to watch a 007 movie because 007 is James Bond. If she's not James Bond... huh. Well, if this is legit, this is definitely huge for the franchise. But for now I'm going to focus on being excited for Bond 25 and not letting this spoil my hype  :biggrin:

Jane Bond  :metal


Honestly, so many people are like "Stop trying to force minorities into roles! Just cast the best person for the role regardless of that stuff"
"Fine, we thought the best person for the role was a black woman"
"IMPOSSIBLE! You're just pandering to special interest groups! It's not humanly possible that a minority would be the best choice for something!"

I'm not a James Bond fan by any stretch, but he's been around for decades and I've heard it's been getting stale. I get the decision to change direction a bit.

 :lol

I just feel like a lot of James Bond's qualities are specifically designed to be portrayed by a male. I'm not anti-female (Jane) Bond and I'm actively rooting for Idris Elba to be the next Bond, but at the same time I think the switch needs to be handled very carefully and intelligently to make the switch feel organic and believable. I'm of the opinion that the Craig-era of Bond is the best it's ever been (overall), so I just want to see them put their best foot forward for the future. As long as they're doing this because they have the creative means to make it work well, I'm all game for this, I just don't want it to feel contrived.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #743 on: July 15, 2019, 10:18:03 AM »
I would love to see Idris Elba so bad, and think he has the capabilities to really knock it out of the park.


I mean god damn:



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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #744 on: July 15, 2019, 11:03:21 AM »
Not a fan of the franchise transitioning to a female 007.

I just feel like a lot of James Bond's qualities are specifically designed to be portrayed by a male. I'm not anti-female (Jane) Bond

I just don't personally think the story/image etc etc will work with a female 007.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #745 on: July 15, 2019, 11:27:39 AM »
Imagine a classy lady schmoozing a coy guy. I dunno, something about that just makes me laugh.  :lol
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #746 on: July 15, 2019, 11:35:08 AM »
The gender / race switch at this point kinda feels like a gimmick, something along the lines of "Tour to play an album in its entirety". Sometimes it's a cool idea and sometimes it's a plain gimmick.

I don't follow Doctor Who but I know enough about it to know that the personification of the Doctor changes, and so it's not unconceiveable that an iteration of the Doctor could be a woman. But a character that is named James Bond can't really go Jane Bond. If the only way you have to present a cool story is to completely change the character, maybe it's time you give the character a rest. Kinda those comic issues that do alternate worlds, wacky universe changing dimensions etc etc only to scrap it all when fans don't like it.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #747 on: July 15, 2019, 11:39:53 AM »
James Bond goes through transition after a trip to his therapist made him realize his misogyny and objectifying of women is rooted in a deep dark desire of him wanting to be a female all along. Now he's Jane Bond reborn from James Bond.  :metal
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #748 on: July 15, 2019, 11:46:04 AM »
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Wow. Lashana Lynch is the next 007. She’s not playing Bond, but will take over the code name. Brava
I mean honestly how can this be a Bond movie then if it's not about the Bond moniker, wouldn't it be more like a spin-off instead?
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #749 on: July 15, 2019, 11:52:04 AM »
I'd put money that this is marketing too.

New Bond movie? Meh. Some excitement, but the franchise has suffered a lot of fatigue.

New black female 007? I HAVE TO SEE THIS MOVIE BECAUSE I HATE THIS IDEA SO MUCH!

So I'd bet that she will not be a new 007 in any meaningful way, but is a way to spark interest and discussion.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #750 on: July 15, 2019, 03:13:07 PM »
Loving the overreaction from white dudes.

The indications so far are that the film starts with Bond having left/retired, and Lynch's character is the new 007. But for whatever reason, Bond needs to come back.

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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #751 on: July 15, 2019, 05:36:46 PM »
Loving the overreaction from white dudes.

The indications so far are that the film starts with Bond having left/retired, and Lynch's character is the new 007. But for whatever reason, Bond needs to come back.
Are you talking about Bond 25 or 26?
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #752 on: July 15, 2019, 09:03:05 PM »
Love the overreaction to the (over?)reaction by the woke crowd.

And if they want to consider this a "Popcorn-dropping moment" would they have not announced it several months in advance? To Adami's point, of course it's marketing. To Katt's point, will it be organic and natural, or a gimmicky "We're playing album XX in its entirety this tour!"
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« Reply #753 on: July 15, 2019, 10:37:41 PM »
No matter how it plays out, the studio wins. If they gamble and they lose, it just creates that much more hype for when they bring back a male James Bond. But if they gamble and they win, then they are viewed as innovators. Either way, the studio wins. They've created the controversy necessary to generate interest.

EDIT - In other words...everyone is being played. Sort of like how the same company that makes the "Christian fish" for the  back of people's cars also make the Darwin fish with the feet. The company makes money no matter which side you're on.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #754 on: July 16, 2019, 06:49:09 AM »
Loving the overreaction from white dudes.

The indications so far are that the film starts with Bond having left/retired, and Lynch's character is the new 007. But for whatever reason, Bond needs to come back.

Pretty much this.   Spectre ended with Bond leaving with Madeleine Swann, so the next film will pick up with him retired.  Blofeld will escape probably kill Madeleine Swann, Bond returns finds that his 007 moniker has been passed on to Lashana Lynch - they'll probably team up and she'll be the Bond girl of the film.

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« Reply #755 on: July 16, 2019, 07:43:15 AM »
I fail to see how having a female lead in a spy movie counts as innovation. But I don't care regardless, if it's done just to be woke - I'll laugh at how bad it is. If it's good - I win, no matter what. And I'm not a fan of the Craig run as 007, he is fantastic, I just don't care about the writing.
If they really want to do something notable with the gender switch, they'll have to completely change the tone of the movie I assume. I imagine female spies work in a very different way than males do, but if they just make her outfight men and so on like a Terminator then it's just a reskin to pander to very few people.

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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #756 on: July 16, 2019, 07:49:13 AM »
Who said anything about a female lead? Bond is obviously the lead in a Bond film.

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« Reply #757 on: July 16, 2019, 07:51:22 AM »
Aren't they prepping a 007 female lead or did I misread?

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« Reply #758 on: July 16, 2019, 07:53:49 AM »
If they really want to do something notable with the gender switch, they'll have to completely change the tone of the movie I assume. I imagine female spies work in a very different way than males do, but if they just make her outfight men and so on like a Terminator then it's just a reskin to pander to very few people.

This would be cool. Have a female spy work on seduction, on men underestimating her because she's a "dumb chick", have her actually in situations in which men try to take advantage of her - Bond is a dog and sleep with everyone, how would it be if a female spy should be involved in a situation where she's expected as part of her ploy to sleep with someone she dislikes?

If it's just Black Widow being not a superhero but a spy, it would be a shallow gimmick.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #759 on: July 16, 2019, 09:36:28 AM »
Aren't they prepping a 007 female lead or did I misread?
It's a bit confusing because I thought at first that they meant they will cast a female lead as 007 in Bond 26 but apparently this is all about the story of the upcoming movie which probably means what some are saying that she will temporarily play as 007 in Bond 25.
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« Reply #760 on: July 16, 2019, 10:16:04 AM »
Why do I get the feeling that the next Star Trek movie is going to feature a Puerto Rican transsexual as Captain Kirk.

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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #761 on: July 16, 2019, 02:15:25 PM »
Aren't they prepping a 007 female lead or did I misread?
It's a bit confusing because I thought at first that they meant they will cast a female lead as 007 in Bond 26 but apparently this is all about the story of the upcoming movie which probably means what some are saying that she will temporarily play as 007 in Bond 25.
I'm sure some sites will have mis-reported through over-excitement (either rage because IT MUST BE A WHITE MAN or excitement because YAY IT'S NOT A WHITE MAN). The actual reporting is that she's been cast in Bond 25, along the lines I described in my previous post.

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« Reply #762 on: July 16, 2019, 06:03:46 PM »
Lynch’s character will probably only be 007 in the first half of the film, since Bond walked away from MI6 at the end of Spectre. Once he gets dragged back in this one he’ll probably reclaim the code name by the end of the film (hopefully)

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« Reply #763 on: July 16, 2019, 07:09:05 PM »
Why do I get the feeling that the next Star Trek movie is going to feature a Puerto Rican transsexual as Captain Kirk.

In 2021, Indya Moore are James T. Kirk!

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