EW just did two awesome interviews with Affleck and Cavill about their prospective roles, and it delves into the collateral damage controversy in Man of Steel, which seems to be the driving force of the beef between Bats and Supes. I like that they did not ignore it and it's an integral part of the plot, because there is a LOT of collateral damage in most superhero movies, whether it's DC or Marvel. Civil War hinted this issue too in the new trailer.
He's a few of quotes from the Cavill interview:
https://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/08/batman-v-superman-henry-cavill-interview “Superman’s weakness is that he doesn’t want to hurt anyone. He doesn’t want to scare anyone, and in that you can take advantage of him. This is someone who is a complete amateur, and he’s facing up against someone who is very well versed in the arts of War."
After the destruction we saw in Man of Steel, is Superman suffering from a kind of survivor’s guilt, since he saved the world, but destroyed a city?
I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s a survivor’s guilt. I mean, that’s a different kind of thing because he’s above the threat. I think the most difficult thing for him at this stage of the story is that he has just come to terms with the fact that he is really, really quite powerful and he hasn’t found any major vulnerabilities yet, and despite this, despite the enormous power that he has, he still cannot do everything, and he really struggles with that. It’s not just a quick, “Okay, I get it. I can’t save everyone.” That takes a long time to work out.
I've been defending MOS in that Superman was not "Superman", just an alien being in a suit trying to figure out things, and this pretty much confirms what I thought the direction of the Character was going. Superman is the reason why these super beings are coming out and revealing themselves to the world because they can't do it alone. This will all lead into the assembly of the Justice League.
From the Affleck interview:
https://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/09/batman-v-superman-ben-affleck-wonder-womanI like that Zack took this issue that some people had with Man of Steel, the anger over all this chaos and destruction unleashed in the climax of that movie and actually turned it into the plot. Can you talk to me about the contempt that Bruce Wayne feels for this godlike figure?
Yeah, watching destruction and seeing things exploding, which we take for granted in this genre of movie — there’s a price for that. There are people in those buildings, and the people in those buildings get killed, and that’s the real price of violence. The real cost of that is in people’s lives and suffering. And we see that through the suffering that Bruce Wayne goes through. I think it’s really interesting. I really liked the idea that you can’t just blow up a whole city and just blindly move on.
Your Batman has been doing this for more than a decade or so, maybe even longer than that. But he doesn’t feel like things are better. Is Batman projecting some of his own anger toward himself on Superman?
Yeah, he’s projecting in some ways his own sense of failure, his own sense of disillusionment, his own cynicism onto Superman, having at one point been certainly much more idealistic about what he was doing. He’s also always been kind of a dark guy. You can’t go out at night and avenge crime the way he does, obviously, without a darker view of the world, but you can see that this probably contributes in some degree to the greater cycle of violence. And that doesn’t put an end to crime. There’s a line about weeds just cropping up and criminals are like weeds, you just pull more of them and they grow back. He’s very disillusioned and very bitter.
Yes. YES. Fucking perfect.
God I just hope they fixed the story construction, which was a glaring flaw for Man of Steel. It sounds like the hiring of Chris Terrio to re-write the script helped fixed it.
Also I love this
What do Batman and Superman talk about when you’re both in costume between takes?
Like, “Do you need to pee?” “Yeah, I need to pee.” “Should we go now or wait?” “How much time do you think we’ll have between shots?” [Laughs] That’s pretty much it. The process.