Author Topic: The DC Movies Thread v AQUAMAN (Read 130410 times)

MirrorMask · « **Reply #1295 on:** January 16, 2021, 03:38:46 PM »

Watched the movie as well.

I didn't really find it terrible and I kinda enjoyed it overall, but.... Adami's long review some posts ago really said it all and I agree with him.

Especially the beginning of the movie (it's the equivalent of a wanking solo section in a prog metal bloated song: it's there just because they could do it, not because it adds something meaningful to the movie) and Steve's comeback (where the hell did the original guy go?).

I expected worse from early reviews but this movie would have benefitted of a tigher pace (2 hours and a half? ugh) and stronger character writing.

Stadler · « **Reply #1296 on:** January 16, 2021, 04:08:59 PM »

Quote from: MirrorMask on January 16, 2021, 03:38:46 PM

Watched the movie as well.

I didn't really find it terrible and I kinda enjoyed it overall, but.... Adami's long review some posts ago really said it all and I agree with him.

Especially the beginning of the movie (it's the equivalent of a wanking solo section in a prog metal bloated song: it's there just because they could do it, not because it adds something meaningful to the movie) and Steve's comeback (where the hell did the original guy go?).

I expected worse from early reviews but this movie would have benefitted of a tigher pace (2 hours and a half? ugh) and stronger character writing.

Lyle Waggoner died early last year.

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #1297 on:** February 18, 2021, 01:57:51 PM »

So...this HBO Max Snyder cut of the Justice League......do I need to have watched all the other MCU movies to know anything about it? Or, can I just watch the movie and be fine? I don't feel like putting the effort in. I've seen the first Superman and I think Superman vs Batman.....but that's it.

Adami · « **Reply #1298 on:** February 18, 2021, 02:00:01 PM »

Quote from: gmillerdrake on February 18, 2021, 01:57:51 PM

So...this HBO Max Snyder cut of the Justice League......do I need to have watched all the other MCU movies to know anything about it? Or, can I just watch the movie and be fine? I don't feel like putting the effort in. I've seen the first Superman and I think Superman vs Batman.....but that's it.

Well, I can definitely say that you don't have to watched ANY of the MCU films to get Justice Leage.

Seriously though, who knows? It's a 4 hour movie apparently with a TON of comic references that almost no one will catch all of. As far as I know if you've seen Batman V Superman and Man of Steel, you should be good. While Aquaman and Wonder Woman have had their own movies, it doesn't sound like Snyder gave a crap about what those movies did or said about the characters and is doing his own thing anyway.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1299 on:** February 19, 2021, 07:47:07 AM »

Weren't Aquaman and Wonder Woman both post-Justice League?

faizoff · « **Reply #1300 on:** February 19, 2021, 07:58:48 AM »

I think the first Wonder Woman came before the Justice League movie.

I think the order is

Man of Steel
Batman v. Superman
Wonder Woman
Justice League
Aquaman

I don't know where Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey fit in, probably not very much story-wise but all connected in the same universe.

Quote from: gmillerdrake on February 18, 2021, 01:57:51 PM

So...this HBO Max Snyder cut of the Justice League......do I need to have watched all the other MCU movies to know anything about it? Or, can I just watch the movie and be fine? I don't feel like putting the effort in. I've seen the first Superman and I think Superman vs Batman.....but that's it.

Honestly, I think you'll be fine. I think the timeline of the Justice League movie is supposed to be after the two movies you've seen.

ZirconBlue · « **Reply #1301 on:** February 19, 2021, 01:12:34 PM »

Quote from: faizoff on February 19, 2021, 07:58:48 AM

I think the first Wonder Woman came before the Justice League movie.

I think the order is

Man of Steel
Batman v. Superman
Wonder Woman
Justice League
Aquaman

I don't know where Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey fit in, probably not very much story-wise but all connected in the same universe.

Honestly, I think you'll be fine. I think the timeline of the Justice League movie is supposed to be after the two movies you've seen.

Man of Steel (2013)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Suicide Squad (2016)
Wonder Woman (2017)
Justice League (2017)
Aquaman (2018)
Shazam! (2019)
Birds of Prey (2020)
Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Adami · « **Reply #1302 on:** February 19, 2021, 01:18:04 PM »

Yea, I'd still say you don't need to have watched any of the movies besides BvS and maybe Man of Steel to follow the movie just fine.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1303 on:** February 19, 2021, 08:12:41 PM »

Wonder Woman (2017)
Man of Steel (2013)
Aquaman (2018)
Shazam! (2019)
Suicide Squad (2016)
Justice League (2017)
Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)
Birds of Prey (2020)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

Stadler · « **Reply #1304 on:** February 20, 2021, 06:19:33 PM »

it's weird, I get a sense of accomplishment, and a sense of purpose with each MCU film. I get none of that from the DC films (and I grew up a DC guy, so that should be my jam!)

lonestar · « **Reply #1305 on:** February 21, 2021, 03:04:20 PM »

Quote from: Stadler on February 20, 2021, 06:19:33 PM

it's weird, I get a sense of accomplishment, and a sense of purpose with each MCU film. I get none of that from the DC films (and I grew up a DC guy, so that should be my jam!)

So true man. I'd put it more like there's a sense of.....intelligent design...that is just so blatantly missing from DC. Even the lower tier MCU films, you just know they fit into the greater picture smoothly, they're not trying to force a greater picture on to you.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1306 on:** February 21, 2021, 03:30:18 PM »

It's funny though, the DC cartoon series are just as good as the Marvel movies as with continuity. Bruce Timm should have ran the ship.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1307 on:** February 27, 2021, 08:19:11 PM »

The pilot for Superman & Lois was outstanding.

ErHaO · « **Reply #1308 on:** March 02, 2021, 08:28:03 AM »

I will admit there is a tiny bit of curiosity in regards to those Snyder cuts, but I will probably end up dissapointed again. For the record, I haven't seen some of these DCEU films, but I found even Wonder Woman to be 2/3's solid mid-MCU-tier and 1/3 to be well below that (the last third), and that has by far been the best DCEU film (save for the separate films of DC that weren't justice league related). And after Wonder Woman 2 my interest in where that chracter is going is gone as well.

I wish they just did some live action versions of the better DC flicks.

Looking forward to the Pattinson Batman, I think that guy is an excellent actor. Is that even part of this mess of a series? I hope not.

Quote from: kingshmegland on February 21, 2021, 03:30:18 PM

It's funny though, the DC cartoon series are just as good as the Marvel movies as with continuity. Bruce Timm should have ran the ship.

They should've done a near 1:1 for the Suicide Squad animated film and a live action adaption. Instead we got a horrible mess with some glimpses of ideas lifted from that animated film.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1309 on:** March 03, 2021, 08:49:49 AM »

Apparently the Snyder Cut will end in a massive cliffhanger.

lol

jingle.boy · « **Reply #1310 on:** March 03, 2021, 11:20:31 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 03, 2021, 08:49:49 AM

Apparently the Snyder Cut will end in a massive cliffhanger.

lol

Like, who won the Flash v Sup race?

Adami · « **Reply #1311 on:** March 03, 2021, 11:41:21 AM »

Quote from: jingle.boy on March 03, 2021, 11:20:31 AM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 03, 2021, 08:49:49 AM
Apparently the Snyder Cut will end in a massive cliffhanger.

lol

Like, who won the Flash v Sup race?

That one still keeps me up at night!

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1312 on:** March 03, 2021, 12:00:16 PM »

Superman and WW kiss?

Adami · « **Reply #1313 on:** March 03, 2021, 12:05:37 PM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on March 03, 2021, 12:00:16 PM

Superman and WW kiss?

And then she looks at him and places her hand on her stomach. Cut to credits.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1314 on:** March 03, 2021, 12:10:25 PM »

It has to be dark though.

Adami · « **Reply #1315 on:** March 03, 2021, 12:22:03 PM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on March 03, 2021, 12:10:25 PM

It has to be dark though.

Fine. A ghoulish claw tears through Wonder Woman’s uterus and grab Superman. A deformed alien head protrudes and says “ hello father.....” credits.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1316 on:** March 03, 2021, 12:29:50 PM »

Then She wakes up. Yup, that's a Snyder movie.

Adami · « **Reply #1317 on:** March 03, 2021, 12:35:25 PM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on March 03, 2021, 12:29:50 PM

Then She wakes up. Yup, that's a Snyder movie.

Also the baby is Jesus.

Now it’s a Snyder film.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1318 on:** March 03, 2021, 12:50:26 PM »

We are going to lose it when this all comes true.

Polarbear · « **Reply #1319 on:** March 03, 2021, 02:07:35 PM »

I read somewhere that the "Snyder Cut" is 4 hours long..

Yeah, no thanks. I'm not at all interested in seeing this. All the Snyder films I've seen say to me, that he is the kind of guy who likes smelling he's own farts way too much. Don't want to hate guy, but he seems a bit pretentious.

lonestar · « **Reply #1320 on:** March 18, 2021, 06:25:40 PM »

Got the first two parts of the Snyder cut under my belt. It's like the story from the first movie is a bare bones skeleton of this one much richer, much more depth for sure. So far, I'm enjoying it.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1321 on:** March 18, 2021, 06:34:57 PM »

Tackling it this weekend.

Adami · « **Reply #1322 on:** March 18, 2021, 06:58:17 PM »

Just finished it. Need a bit to recover but a huge improvement despite its plentiful flaws. More later.

lonestar · « **Reply #1323 on:** March 18, 2021, 09:08:11 PM »

I'll probably tackle the second half tomorrow night, gotta burn through Falcon in the morning first.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1324 on:** March 19, 2021, 07:28:56 AM »

I'm 90 minutes in, and still have another 2 1/2 hours to go.

It's already better than the theatrical release. It's not perfect; it still has all of the same problems that the pre-JL Snyder films had. But at least it's not a disjointed mess. I guess it's a focused mess lol

Stadler · « **Reply #1325 on:** March 19, 2021, 10:13:32 AM »

What are the prerequisites for the Snyder Cut (in terms of movies)?

faizoff · « **Reply #1326 on:** March 19, 2021, 10:16:16 AM »

Quote from: Stadler on March 19, 2021, 10:13:32 AM

What are the prerequisites for the Snyder Cut (in terms of movies)?

I'm quite sure it's just two

- Man of Steel
- Batman v Superman.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1327 on:** March 19, 2021, 12:18:15 PM »

Quote from: faizoff on March 19, 2021, 10:16:16 AM

Quote from: Stadler on March 19, 2021, 10:13:32 AM
What are the prerequisites for the Snyder Cut (in terms of movies)?

I'm quite sure it's just two

- Man of Steel
- Batman v Superman.

That is correct.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1328 on:** March 19, 2021, 04:15:57 PM »

Man Of Steel. Bat V Sup. Justice League.

Three terrible, terrible films. But which one do you think is the worst ?

For me it's BVS. Un-necessarily dark and took a killer concept like Batman Vs Superman and completely f-ed it.

Justice League was a bit better than BVS imo - but it was just so blah. I was actually bored watching it. Which you don't want from an exciting superhero movie.

Man of Steel was probably the 'best' of the 3 - but the last 40 minutes are just completely OTT and ridiculous. The Richard Donner Superman would lure Zod

away from populated areas.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1329 on:** March 19, 2021, 05:35:37 PM »

I don't think MOS was bad at all. The 2 Justice League movies though....

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