The Song Roulette Tracker Thread 3.0 - v. Betting on red just this once

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

So, the thread on favourite albums from each year is revealing how much more music I know from 2000 onwards than from the last century. It's like, pre-70s very very little, 70s-80s still not much, 90s a bit more, and then 2000+ shitloads of music.

I know that modern production and stylings is generally more my thing, which largely explains it, but still the difference is vast and in my roulettes I do get sent some older gems, just most people don't send me that stuff (except Stadler ).

So I'm thinking of doing a small-ish "fogeys roulette". Six rounds, first three rounds limited to pre-1990, two rounds pre-2000, and then final round unrestricted. Any interest?

I'm in! I have tons of stuff pre 90's.

[Sacul]

Dunno if I'd have enough good pre-90s stuff, but I'd have to see the banned list anyway

[TAC]

Dunno if I'd have enough good pre-90s stuff, but I'd have to see the banned list anyway

By the time you send it, the Pre 90's stuff will have aged into the 2000's.

[Buddyhunter1]

I don't have shit to send you from before the 90s but I'll consider finding some random bullshit so I can participate in the last three rounds.

[HOF]

This sounds like a fun format. I’d be in.

[Crow]

absolutely no chance i'll have anything good for this roulette. i'm in

[jingle.boy]

Yeah, I'm in.

[ariich]

Nice, I'm digging the amount of interest including from surprising sources.

My next two weeks are manic so I'm not in a position to do it right now, but once work has calmed down (late September) I think I'll get it started.

[lonestar]

Hmmm... I could do that one, curious to see the ban list though.

[ariich]

Hmmm... I could do that one, curious to see the ban list though.

I don't imagine it'll be that extensive.

I'm not sure I'll ban any artists outright, I'm more likely to do it based on my RYM again and say if I've rated an album, it's banned, but if I haven't then any songs from it are available.

[lonestar]

I think I'm more curious just to see what fell under your radar. I'm sure us fogeys will have our share of 'how did he miss them???' moments.

[twosuitsluke]

I'd be game

[wolfking]

Dunno if I'd have enough good pre-90s stuff, but I'd have to see the banned list anyway

This is probably for me too.

[Elite]

I can definitely join that and actually send some good stuff.

[ariich]

I should be good to start this probably at the weekend, or if not then early next week.

[Crow]

[King Postwhore]

I'm so old I fit the criteria.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

[Sacul]

[wolfking]

I should be good to start this probably at the weekend, or if not then early next week.

Might strongly consider this depending on the banned list as I mentioned earlier.  Kinda keen to join though.

[ariich]

For those talking about the banlist, I assume you're mainly referring to the pre-90s one for the first three rounds? I'm almost finished compiling it and it's not especially extensive.

The 90s one for rounds 4 and 5 will take a little more time to get ready. Haven't decided if I'll just do a list for 90s and let people figure things out for themselves by combining the two lists, or if I should do a full pre-2000 banlist. The latter would be easier for people I guess, but more work for me.

[jingle.boy]

Since the post-2000 theme is only 1 round (assuming you're sticking with the format that you mentioned earlier), just point us to your ratemymusic list, and use the same rule you've used in the past.

[ariich]

Since the post-2000 theme is only 1 round (assuming you're sticking with the format that you mentioned earlier), just point us to your ratemymusic list, and use the same rule you've used in the past.

Yeah that's definitely the plan, although actually I'm going to make a slight tweak - previously I've said that if I've ever rated an artist 4 stars they're banned, but instead I'll make it simpler and say if I've rated an album at all, the songs on it are banned, anything else is not.

[ariich]

I think my pre-1990 list for the first three rounds is complete. This is what it will almost certainly look like, and I found it really interesting seeing some bands on there that I just can't square with the 80s, but which did release their first albums towards the end of that decade.

Pre-1990 completely banned:
Alannah Myles
Bad Religion
The Beatles
Blind Guardian
Chick Corea & Return to Forever
Chris Squire
Dream Theater
Extreme
Fates Warning
Guns n' Roses
Helloween
Iron Maiden
Jane's Addiction
Jeff Wayne
King Crimson
Living Colour
Loreena McKennitt
Megadeth
Metallica
Nirvana
The Offspring
Pink Floyd
Queen
Queensryche
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rush
Sarah McLachlan
Yngwie Malmsteen

Pre-1990 partially banned:
The Alan Parsons Project - everything up to and including Ammonia Avenue (1976-84); Gaudi (1987)
Andrew Lloyd Webber & Tim Rice - Jesus Christ Superstar (1970)
Area - Crac! (1975); 1978 gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano! (1978)
Asia - Asia (1982)
Average White Band - AWB (1974); Cut the Cake (1975)
Bill Evans - Symbiosis (1974)
Billy Joel - Turnstiles (1976); Storm Front (1989)
Birth Control - Operation (1971)
Black Sabbath - everything up to and including Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (1970-73); Heaven and Hell (1980); Mob Rules (1981)
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited (1965); Bringing It All Back Home (1965); Blonde on Blonde (1966)
Buddy Rich - Big Swing Face (1967)
Can - Tago Mago (1971); Landed (1975)
Cardiacs - A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window (1988); On Land and in the Sea (1989)
Casiopea - Euphony (1988)
Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um (1959); Blues & Roots (1960); The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (1963)
Charlie Parker - The Genius of Charlie Parker (1955)
Cheap Trick - Dream Police (1979)
Cowboy Junkies - The Trinity Session (1988)
Crack the Sky - Crack the Sky (1975)
Crimson Glory - Transcendence (1988)
Crosby, Stills & Nash - Crosby, Stills & Nash (1969)
The Cult - Sonic Temple (1989)
The Cure - Disintegration (1989)
David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars (1972)
Deep Purple - Machine Head (1972); Made in Japan (1972); Perfect Strangers (1984)
Depeche Mode - Some Great Reward (1984); Black Celebration (1986); Music for the Masses (1987)
Dio - Holy Diver (1983); The Last in Line (1984)
Dire Straits - Making Movies (1980); Love Over Gold (1982); Brothers in Arms (1985)
Diz and Getz - Diz and Getz (1955)
Dizzy Gillespie - Have Trumpet, Will Excite! (1959); Perceptions (1961)
Eagles - Hotel California (1976)
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (1971); Pictures at an Exhibition (1972); Trilogy (1972)
Eric Clapton - Journeyman (1989)
Faith No More - The Real Thing (1989)
Fields of the Nephilim - The Nephilim (1988)
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain (1971); Standing on the Verge of Getting It On (1974)
Genesis - everything from Trespass to The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1970-74); Wind & Wuthering (1976)
Gentle Giant - Acquiring the Taste (1971); Free Hand (1975)
George Harrison - Cloud Nine (1987)
Gino Vannelli - Storm at Sunup (1975); A Pauper in Paradise (1977); Brother to Brother (1978)
Gowan - Strange Animal (1985)
Herbie Hancock - Takin' Off (1962)
Iggy Pop - Lust for Life (1977)
Jaco Pastorius - Invitation (1983)
Jethro Tull - Aqualung (1971); The Broadsword and the Beast (1982)
Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced (1967); Axis: Bold as Love (1967)
John Coltrane - Blue Train (1958); Soultrane (1958); Giant Steps (1960); Standard Coltrane (1962); A Love Supreme (1965)
Joy Division - Closer (1980)
Kansas - Masque (1975); Leftoverture (1976); Point of Know Return (1977)
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II (1969); Led Zeppelin [IV] (1971); Physical Graffiti (1975)
Lizzy Borden - Master of Disguise (1989)
Lucifer's Friend - Banquet (1974); Mind Exploding (1976); Good Time Warrior (1978)
Madness - any tracks on the Divine Madness compilation
The Mahavishnu Orchestra With John McLaughlin - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971)
Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear (1983); Misplaced Childhood (1985); first half-ish of Clutching at Straws (1987)
Maynard Ferguson - Chameleon (1974); Hollywood (1982); any tracks on the This is Jazz 16 compilation
Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell (1977); any songs on the Hits Out of Hell compilation
Michael Jackson - Thriller (1982); Bad (1987); any songs later included on the History best of disc
The Michael Schenker Group - The Michael Schenker Group (1980)
Michel Camilo - Michel Camilo (1988)
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue (1959); Sketches of Spain (1960); Bitches Brew (1970); Aura (1989)
NEU! - NEU! (1972); NEU! 2 (1973)
Oscar Peterson Trio - Night Train (1963); Oscar Peterson Trio + One, Clark Terry (1964)
Ozzy Osbourne - Diary of a Madman (1981)
Parliament - Up for the Down Stroke (1974); Mothership Connection (1975); The Clones of Dr. Funkenstein (1976); Funkentelechy vs. the Placebo Syndrome (1977)
Pixies - Surfer Rosa (1988); Doolittle (1989)
R.E.M. - Lifes Rich Pageant (1986); Document (1987)
Rainbow - everything up to and including Down to Earth (1975-79)
Randy Newman - Land of Dreams (1988)
Run-D.M.C. - Raising Hell (1986)
Scott Walker - Climate of Hunter (1984)
Simon & Garfunkel - any tracks from the 20 Greatest Hits compilation
Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto - Getz / Gilberto (1964)
Steely Dan - Aja (1977)
Stephen Sondheim - Into the Woods [Original Cast Recording] (1988)
Stevie Wonder - Talking Book (1972); Innervisions (1973); Fulfillingness' First Finale (1974); Songs in the Key of Life (1976)
Sting - ...Nothing Like the Sun (1987)
Talk Talk - It's My Life (1984); The Colour of Spring (1986); Spirit of Eden (1988)
Tom Waits - everything up to and including Blue Valentine (1973-78); Rain Dogs (1985)
Toto - Toto (1978); IV (1982); Isolation (1984); Fahrenheit (1986); The Seventh One (1988)
Tower of Power - Bump City (1972); In the Slot (1975); Ain't Nothin' Stoppin' Us Now (1976); Direct (1981)
UFO - Lights Out (1977)
Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts (1971)
The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967)
Virgin Steele - Noble Savage (1985); Age of Consent (1988)
Wes Montgomery - Bumpin' (1965)
The Who - Tommy (1969); Who's Next (1971); Quadrophenia (1973)
Wishbone Ash - everything up to and including There's the Rub (1970-74); New England (1976)
Yes - everything up to and including 90125 (1969-83)

[lonestar]

That great crashing sound you all just heard was Chad, Joe, and myself rushing to claim dibs on Triumph.





I'm totally good with pre 1990 and post 2000, it's that decade in between that's gonna be tough for me.

[ariich]

I'm totally good with pre 1990 and post 2000, it's that decade in between that's gonna be tough for me.

To be clear RJ, you don't need to send me anything from the 90s. In those two rounds, everything pre-1990 will still be in play. The purpose of those two rounds is more for people who (like me) don't have much pre-1990 that they'd be able to send.

Hell you can send me 80s glam rock in all six rounds if you like.

[lonestar]

I'm totally good with pre 1990 and post 2000, it's that decade in between that's gonna be tough for me.

To be clear RJ, you don't need to send me anything from the 90s. In those two rounds, everything pre-1990 will still be in play. The purpose of those two rounds is more for people who (like me) don't have much pre-1990 that they'd be able to send.

Hell you can send me 80s glam rock in all six rounds if you like.

This is gonna be fun...I'm actually going to work to send stuff outside the box for ya. Will it be just tracks or full albums?

[ariich]

Hmm, haven't decided yet, but that's a good question.

Definitely not just single tracks.

If not too many people sign-up, I'd be up for doing albums (in which case I'll remove from the banlist any instances of "any songs from compilation X"). Otherwise probably the same as my last roulette, 10-20 minutes of music.

[romdrums]

I think I can do this one.  Count me in!

[Crow]

i might be able to find something to send for the pre 90's rounds if you give me a year

[Buddyhunter1]

Definitely not just single tracks.

Shit

[Crow]

yeah that's my sticking point too  like i could easily find songs to send but that'd be just, songs. not much else. not 10-20 minutes worth of songs

[jingle.boy]

I'm totally good with pre 1990 and post 2000, it's that decade in between that's gonna be tough for me.

To be clear RJ, you don't need to send me anything from the 90s. In those two rounds, everything pre-1990 will still be in play. The purpose of those two rounds is more for people who (like me) don't have much pre-1990 that they'd be able to send.

Hell you can send me 80s glam rock in all six rounds if you like.

[ariich]

oh god what have i done

[ariich]

Definitely not just single tracks.

Shit

yeah that's my sticking point too  like i could easily find songs to send but that'd be just, songs. not much else. not 10-20 minutes worth of songs

What if I make it simpler again and just say "up to 20 minutes"?