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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6230 on: November 03, 2015, 08:35:17 AM »
Morning hef. I love you.
Hey, I love you too.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6231 on: November 03, 2015, 08:37:37 AM »
Aw, shucks.  :blush
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6232 on: November 03, 2015, 09:03:55 AM »
No bloody A. B. C or D. :getoffmylawn:

I'm also building the corridors of the D (for an unrelated project), which is a much nicer ship.

Aesthetically, yeah.  If I had a choice - I would choose living on 1701D over the original for sure.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6233 on: November 03, 2015, 09:05:33 AM »

Cool. I'm sorta starting to migrate my code over to C#. It's not too different to what I'm used to.


Is that the one between Enterprise B and D ?

Enterprise Ncc - 1701 C#

Or Enterprise Db - depending on what key ( or alternate timeline ) you're in ! :neverusethis:

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« Reply #6234 on: November 03, 2015, 09:06:58 AM »
No bloody A. B. C or D. :getoffmylawn:

I'm also building the corridors of the D (for an unrelated project), which is a much nicer ship.

Aesthetically, yeah.  If I had a choice - I would choose living on 1701D over the original for sure.

I'm choosing the 1701-D for the holodeck alone. :lol
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6235 on: November 03, 2015, 09:09:04 AM »
The holodeck has many problems. Not least - as I believe we have discussed - the fact that two people can see different things in the same space.

For example - Picard could be standing in a hotel room and Geordi or whoever could go "outside" and still be in the same holodeck.


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« Reply #6236 on: November 03, 2015, 09:12:57 AM »
Sure, it doesn't work, especially in the DS9 holosuites. But neither does warp travel, or replicators, or basically any of it, so I'm ok with that. :lol
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6237 on: November 03, 2015, 09:28:01 AM »
Sure, it doesn't work, especially in the DS9 holosuites. But neither does warp travel, or replicators, or basically any of it, so I'm ok with that. :lol

Warp Speed has a foot in scientific fact though. Theoretically at least it's plausible. Replicators not so much but I can get on board with re-arranging molecules to turn matter from one form into another.

But the holodeck just cannot work in any way . The most it could do is function as a transporter in reverse. And create objects within the space that cannot exist outside the holodeck.

The holodeck basically exists to get the actors off the ship now and again. The same reason they invented the transporter. To save money on the shuttle sequences.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6238 on: November 03, 2015, 09:29:58 AM »
Oh I realize all of that, I'm just saying that it's all out of the realm of reality for now anyway. For all we know, there will be a way to make it work eventually. No idea how, but I'm sure many technologies seemed equally impossible at one point in time.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6239 on: November 03, 2015, 03:20:28 PM »
Sure, it doesn't work, especially in the DS9 holosuites. But neither does warp travel, or replicators, or basically any of it, so I'm ok with that. :lol

Oh, you're OK with this but that?  :lol
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6240 on: November 03, 2015, 09:08:17 PM »
Sure, it doesn't work, especially in the DS9 holosuites. But neither does warp travel, or replicators, or basically any of it, so I'm ok with that. :lol

Oh, you're OK with this but that?  :lol

Science fiction is based on speculative science. I'm ok with that. But if it's just outright shit, I'm not ok with that. :biggrin:
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« Reply #6241 on: November 04, 2015, 04:48:57 AM »
You silly goose.

I agree. Suspend your disbelief!
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6242 on: November 04, 2015, 04:56:16 AM »
Morning king.

I got paid moneys today. I is happy.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6243 on: November 04, 2015, 04:58:52 AM »
You be jellin'.

 I'm training a new site manager that will run another site this week.  That's why I haven't been on much. Got to go. Later!
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6244 on: November 04, 2015, 04:59:30 AM »
Have fun with that, buddy!
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6245 on: November 04, 2015, 05:06:30 AM »
Morning king.

I got paid moneys today. I is happy.

Me too :hifive:

Today I get my wags though which is different to paid to make 3D daleks.

Also I get a whipping Ł6 for my music . My Solid Gold Pagani Zonda will be here any day now :splodetard:

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« Reply #6246 on: November 04, 2015, 05:10:45 AM »
Morning king.

I got paid moneys today. I is happy.

Me too :hifive:

Today I get my wags though which is different to paid to make 3D daleks.

Also I get a whipping Ł6 for my music . My Solid Gold Pagani Zonda will be here any day now :splodetard:

I don't get paid for the 3D Daleks (unfortunately). :lol This is my first payment for making lots of little icons.

Is Ł6 just for one sale, or is that over a certain period? At the moment it takes me a few days to make that much on Youtube. And now the Youtube Red earnings are pouring in too. $0.03 a day! Better make that two solid gold Pagani Zondas!
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6247 on: November 04, 2015, 05:14:33 AM »
Morning guys

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6248 on: November 04, 2015, 05:15:20 AM »
Ł6 is for September. Not sure how it works because I sold 5 albums in that month ... But i'll take it..

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6249 on: November 04, 2015, 05:18:43 AM »
Ł6 is for September. Not sure how it works because I sold 5 albums in that month ... But i'll take it..

Better than a kick in the face!


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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6250 on: November 04, 2015, 05:20:47 AM »
What's up Blob?

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« Reply #6251 on: November 04, 2015, 05:32:56 AM »
What's up Blob?

My bank account. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Kotow and I are buying matching gold Zondas. You in?
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6252 on: November 04, 2015, 05:44:20 AM »
What's up Blob?

My bank account. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Kotow and I are buying matching gold Zondas. You in?

 :lol  I'll pass, thanks. Too small for my taste.

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6253 on: November 04, 2015, 05:51:19 AM »
What's up Blob?

My bank account. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Kotow and I are buying matching gold Zondas. You in?

 :lol  I'll pass, thanks. Too small for my taste.

TWSS

Like I'm going to buy a car anyway. I have a bunch of computer stuff to buy.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6254 on: November 04, 2015, 06:00:14 AM »
What's up Blob?

My bank account. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Kotow and I are buying matching gold Zondas. You in?

 :lol  I'll pass, thanks. Too small for my taste.

TWSS

Like I'm going to buy a car anyway. I have a bunch of computer stuff to buy.

Now that's more my speed. What are you buying?

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6255 on: November 04, 2015, 06:06:07 AM »
Now that's more my speed. What are you buying?

Not all specifically computer parts, but stuff related to my computer setup.
I've been wanting to get a new monitor for a while now, I'm looking at a 24" IPS monitor that's about $1200, really high end graphics monitor. I hate LCDs, so if I'm getting one, it's going to be a good one.
I also badly need a new computer chair because my current one is on life support. It's missing wheels, and it's all flaked off badly. I also want a new computer desk, a standing desk.
And one day I'll order that custom mechanical keyboard.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6256 on: November 04, 2015, 06:09:31 AM »
What's your beef with LCDs?

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6257 on: November 04, 2015, 06:30:39 AM »
What's your beef with LCDs?

It's a flawed technology, and became standard long before they even came close to matching CRTs in any regard (and TN panels still aren't a viable replacement imo). Even now, the average consumer LCD is garbage, and they're completely unusable for even the most basic of graphics work. And the default gamma/brightness out of the box on them is so far off, and most people don't bother adjusting them, then bitch and moan when a website uses the colour white.

IPS monitors are the way to go, but then you've got the trade-off of decent colour and viewing angles often at the expense of refresh rate and input lag. It's always a compromise. The one I want is a beast of a graphics monitor that comes factory calibrated to be almost perfect (or you can use a calibrator to get it even better). Since this is the first time I've bought a monitor since 2003 to finally replace my CRT, I'm going to splash out and get one that isn't going to be a step backwards.
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6258 on: November 04, 2015, 07:13:29 AM »
I'm not a fan of LCD either, but there's no choice anymore with computers. I have a plasma TV but even that technology is being abandoned in favour of LCD, so if/when it dies I doubt I'm going to be able to get another one. :(

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« Reply #6259 on: November 04, 2015, 07:20:14 AM »
I'm not a fan of LCD either, but there's no choice anymore with computers. I have a plasma TV but even that technology is being abandoned in favour of LCD, so if/when it dies I doubt I'm going to be able to get another one. :(

I don't recall seeing a plasma advertised for years now (although I don't really pay attention). I've been waiting for over 5 years for OLED monitors, but that technology is taking it's sweet time. And my CRT's res is getting restrictive for my work, so I really need full HD.
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« Reply #6260 on: November 04, 2015, 07:25:58 AM »
I don't recall seeing a plasma advertised for years now (although I don't really pay attention). I've been waiting for over 5 years for OLED monitors, but that technology is taking it's sweet time. And my CRT's res is getting restrictive for my work, so I really need full HD.
I think Panasonic is the only major manufacturer that bothers (though it's been a while since I kept myself abreast of the situation). Even then, they were only reproducing the same 60" or so 1080p screens - and had no plans for manufacturing any at 4K, which is what I would want when I buy my next TV.

OLED sounds really good on paper but you're right about the amount of time it's taking. I don't think the price tag is going to be pretty to begin with regarding OLED, either.

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« Reply #6261 on: November 04, 2015, 07:30:25 AM »
OLED sounds really good on paper but you're right about the amount of time it's taking. I don't think the price tag is going to be pretty to begin with regarding OLED, either.

Nope, it sure isn't, even for the tiny displays. At that price point, the average consumer probably isn't going to care about the difference in quality. Like many new technologies, I think patents have probably hurt the development and price (basically killed the SED display).
Oh well, for over a grand, hopefully this LCD will be adequate for now. :lol
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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6262 on: November 04, 2015, 07:34:53 AM »
What's your beef with LCDs?

It's a flawed technology, and became standard long before they even came close to matching CRTs in any regard (and TN panels still aren't a viable replacement imo). Even now, the average consumer LCD is garbage, and they're completely unusable for even the most basic of graphics work. And the default gamma/brightness out of the box on them is so far off, and most people don't bother adjusting them, then bitch and moan when a website uses the colour white.

IPS monitors are the way to go, but then you've got the trade-off of decent colour and viewing angles often at the expense of refresh rate and input lag. It's always a compromise. The one I want is a beast of a graphics monitor that comes factory calibrated to be almost perfect (or you can use a calibrator to get it even better). Since this is the first time I've bought a monitor since 2003 to finally replace my CRT, I'm going to splash out and get one that isn't going to be a step backwards.

What should the settings be adjusted to on an LCD?

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Re: DTF Chat Thread v. Gadzooks!
« Reply #6263 on: November 04, 2015, 07:36:47 AM »
Good morning
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« Reply #6264 on: November 04, 2015, 07:38:41 AM »
What should the settings be adjusted to on an LCD?

I don't know the settings for every monitor made. :lol But the majority of LCDs are too bright for a start. Most LCDs can do 250-300cd at full brightness, when it's recommended to run monitors somewhere around 120cd. And there should be plenty of sites and tools that help adjust a monitor's gamma, although imo it's kind of futile on a TN panel.


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