The Iron Maiden Thread v. The Merge of Souls

[Grappler]

Blood and Belief is criminally underrated.

You're probably right. I'm just listening to it now, funnily enough. It's far more similar stylistically and sonically to the first two albums than I remember.

Its like the third part of the trilogy.  The title track might be my favourite Blaze track.

Yea, those first three Blaze albums may be his best.  I don't know, but they are like classics for Blaze.  Obviously he still makes great music, but I hold those three more highly.

I definitely prefer the first 2-3 Blaze albums to any of his recent albums.  Silicon Messiah is still my favorite.

[WardySI]

Blood and Belief is criminally underrated.

You're probably right. I'm just listening to it now, funnily enough. It's far more similar stylistically and sonically to the first two albums than I remember.

Its like the third part of the trilogy.  The title track might be my favourite Blaze track.

So far as the album goes that would be Soundtrack Of My Life fer me 

[Mladen]

I was inspired to open a Blaze Bayley thread by the recent discussion:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=57553.0

[wolfking]

I was inspired to open a Blaze Bayley thread by the recent discussion:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=57553.0

This is the Blaze Bayley thread, isn't it? 

[TAC]

I was inspired to open a Blaze Bayley thread by the recent discussion:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=57553.0

This is the Blaze Bayley thread, isn't it? 

No, this is.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=57471.1015   

[wolfking]

So if there's already two, do we need a third? I guess we do!

[425]

I mean, there are clearly some people who hate Blaze enough to try to derail any conversation about him that goes on too long in an Iron Maiden thread, so if a separate thread solves that problem, I'm fine with it.

[wolfking]

I mean, there are clearly some people who hate Blaze enough to try to derail any conversation about him that goes on too long in an Iron Maiden thread, so if a separate thread solves that problem, I'm fine with it.

haha, we are clealy just taking the piss mate, the separate thread is a good idea.

[425]

I think 90% of people are taking the piss, and 10% are definitely not.

[KevShmev]

Feels like my ears are burning , but I will just say that I do not hate Bayley; I just don't like him as a singer. I will see myself out now. 

Edit: fixed that to make it sound a little nicer.

[Zantera]

Is it controversial to say Beast over Hammersmith is the best Maiden live album? Live After Death is iconic and I love it, other releases like Maiden England, Rock in Rio and Death on the Road are superb as well but I'm listening to Beast over Hammersmith right now and it just feels like the band is on fire. 1982, The Number of the Beast isn't even out yet until a few days, and the band delivers killer live versions of most songs on the album as well as fantastic versions of songs from the debut and Killers. I forgot how much I love a song like Drifter because they just don't play that anymore.

[Glasser]

Is it controversial to say Beast over Hammersmith is the best Maiden live album? Live After Death is iconic and I love it, other releases like Maiden England, Rock in Rio and Death on the Road are superb as well but I'm listening to Beast over Hammersmith right now and it just feels like the band is on fire. 1982, The Number of the Beast isn't even out yet until a few days, and the band delivers killer live versions of most songs on the album as well as fantastic versions of songs from the debut and Killers. I forgot how much I love a song like Drifter because they just don't play that anymore.

Nope! Beast over Hammersmith is easily their best live album to me. Next up is Live After Death.

[The Realm]

Live after Death is number 1 for me but I totally agree with everything else you said about Beast over Hammersmith. No doubt the band is on fire and Bruce especially is amazing and delivers some blistering vocal performances especially in some of the Dianno tracks. Awesome album.

[cramx3]

https://youtu.be/i58AJ9w7rf0

Wow 

[wolfking]

 

[TAC]

I think Bruce was upset because an ...um...Blaze showed up.

[wolfking]

I think Bruce was upset because an ...um...Blaze showed up.

Oh dear. 

[TAC]

I think Bruce was upset because an ...um...Blaze showed up.

Oh dear. 

It was a sign for him to be ...cross.








Sorry.

[cramx3]

I think Bruce was upset because an ...um...Blaze showed up.

Oh dear. 

 

[porcacultor]

Sucks that Bruce got so upset, but this might be the first time they performed most of the intro as an instrumental!

And then when Bruce comes back (singing from the backstage, apparently) he starts with the second post-intro verse (Torches blazed etc.) and sings the whole thing out of sync with the rest of the band. What a weird, unique event! Then he comes back to the stage, but takes a while to settle into the song.

Another lyrical change: "I'm coming back, I will return/And I'll possess your body and YOU'LL MAKE ATHENS FUCKING BURN"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjg5UNU7tbI

Then he goes into "scream for me athens" like nothing ever happened, hahah

[Mladen]

I don't know what it is with Greece and flares. This isn't the first time this has happend. Back in 1999, someone in the audience in Greece lit the fire, making it impossible for Bruce to breathe. He was ready to stop the concert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhYTOkdcUxI&ab_channel=csdrunks

It's interesting that it's the same thing 23 years later. 

[Stadler]

Now I wanna go see Iron Maiden.  They are so much fun live.

[cramx3]

I saw another video from that Greek concert and there were 5 flares going in that crowd.  I don't know how they get in with those and how security doesn't get them to put it out.  It certainly looks cool from the stand view, but I'm not sure I want to be standing next to someone on the floor who's holding one of those. 

I don't think it's just a Greek thing, but in En Vivo you can see people have flares and I think in some of the Flight 666 videos from South America there are some. 

[425]

Yeah, I definitely would not want to be next to a (likely drunk) person holding a flare. Boggles my mind seeing comments on the videos basically saying he shouldn't have minded because "it's a rock concert!" Yeah, it's a rock concert, where the point is to see the band, not smoke up the venue so much that the singer can't perform or worry that the idiot next to me is about to set me on fire.

[Mladen]

I cannot see a scenario in which it would be justified for a fan to light up a fire in the middle of the audience during a rock concert. Maybe it's a cultural thing, I don't know.

[MirrorMask]

Yeah, I definitely would not want to be next to a (likely drunk) person holding a flare. Boggles my mind seeing comments on the videos basically saying he shouldn't have minded because "it's a rock concert!" Yeah, it's a rock concert, where the point is to see the band, not smoke up the venue so much that the singer can't perform or worry that the idiot next to me is about to set me on fire.

You'd think that one of the seminal songs of the genre, Smoke on the Water, would have taught something to people....

[The Curious Orange]

You'd think that one of the seminal songs of the genre, Smoke on the Water, would have taught something to people....

Burn down a venue, recklessly endangering life and they might just write a classic rock song about YOU!

[MirrorMask]

You'd think that one of the seminal songs of the genre, Smoke on the Water, would have taught something to people....

Burn down a venue, recklessly endangering life and they might just write a classic rock song about YOU!

Hey, you have a point 

[Stadler]

Which is sort of fascinating, since Jannick played with Ian Gillan, and all of them - especially Bruce - have cited Deep Purple as a primary influence.  Plus, Martin Birch...   

[cramx3]

I cannot see a scenario in which it would be justified for a fan to light up a fire in the middle of the audience during a rock concert. Maybe it's a cultural thing, I don't know.

It's celebratory for Greek people 

https://blabbermouth.net/news/queensryches-todd-la-torre-lighting-flares-at-concerts-is-a-celebratory-thing-for-greek-people

[nobloodyname]

Bruce's best rant is still The Ice Cube Incident. "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!"

[wolfking]

Bruce's best rant is still The Ice Cube Incident. "Fuck you and horse you rode in on!"

I don't recall that one.  I'll have to look it up.

[nobloodyname]

I think I've got the bootleg but... I've just moved house and left all my bootlegs behind. They're scheduled to be thrown into a skip but maybe I'll make an attempt to rescue that one since not much comes up in an internet search. There's a thread about it at https://maidenfans.com/2004/the-ice-cube-incident but it's not a full transcription, alas.

[TAC]

He has two rants at two separate points in Providence in 1991. I'll try and transcribe them when I get a chance, but I think he called a guy a "scumsucking fuck brain"

[TAC]

The Daily Doug did The Thin Line Between Love And Hate today..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD6fw72mbKM