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Re: The Iron Maiden Thread v. The Merge of Souls
« Reply #8575 on: May 31, 2022, 08:07:41 PM »
If Bruce re-recorded the Blaze albums do they rank higher?  :corn

People seem to think Bruce’s SOTC is better (it’s good, but I personally don’t think it’s “better) so there’s probably something to that.

I haven’t heard Bruce’s version of Lord of the Flies yet. (I think it’s on Death on the Road?) but people probably like that better too.

I stated it earlier, but I still maintain that Blaze’s Afraid to Shoot Strangers is better than Bruce’s.
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« Reply #8576 on: May 31, 2022, 08:12:09 PM »
Wtf, and if Dianno rerecords The Clansman.... :lol
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« Reply #8577 on: May 31, 2022, 08:21:07 PM »
And if Blaze rerecords Somewhere In Time does it rank lower? Lets go off the rails here....... If Maiden releases Images an Words live (official bootleg) with Blaze on vocals where does that rank?  :lol :lol :lol

*imagines Blaze singing I&W*  :rollin

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« Reply #8578 on: May 31, 2022, 08:23:53 PM »
If Maiden releases Images an Words live (official bootleg) with Blaze on vocals where does that rank?  :lol :lol :lol

They'd probably rewrite the chorus..

Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
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« Reply #8579 on: May 31, 2022, 08:25:46 PM »
Wtf, and if Dianno rerecords The Clansman.... :lol

Can we flip both albums with Blaze and Dianno?  :lol

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« Reply #8580 on: May 31, 2022, 08:26:48 PM »
Wtf, and if Dianno rerecords The Clansman.... :lol

Can we flip both albums with Blaze and Dianno?  :lol

Hey, I like both Blaze and Paul.
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« Reply #8581 on: May 31, 2022, 08:27:12 PM »
If Maiden releases Images an Words live (official bootleg) with Blaze on vocals where does that rank?  :lol :lol :lol

They'd probably rewrite the chorus..

Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon


That would be some Clockwork Orange shit there!  :rollin :rollin

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« Reply #8582 on: May 31, 2022, 08:27:55 PM »
My Bottom 10 off the top of my head..


Losfer Words
The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner
Tailgunner
Hooks In You
Mother Russia
From Here To Eternity
Weekend Warrior
The Apparition
Judgement Of Heaven
The Angel And The Gambler
El Dorado


ok..that's 11

I'm not sure we can be friends anymore.

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We were just discussing this a few posts earlier...

The Loneliness in the bottom 10 (ok, 11  ;)) is uber-shocking.

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« Reply #8583 on: May 31, 2022, 08:30:57 PM »
Wtf, and if Dianno rerecords The Clansman.... :lol

Can we flip both albums with Blaze and Dianno?  :lol

Hey, I like both Blaze and Paul.

So you would be cool with it? I hope Dianno and Stratton reunite for a Best Of Blaze Era.  :lol

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« Reply #8584 on: May 31, 2022, 08:32:30 PM »
Glasser...you getting baked tonight or what? :lol :lol
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« Reply #8585 on: May 31, 2022, 08:34:16 PM »
TAC, This is so therapeutic, I'm laughing my ass off...   :hat :mehlin

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« Reply #8586 on: May 31, 2022, 08:45:16 PM »


Dianno




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« Reply #8587 on: May 31, 2022, 08:45:24 PM »
If Maiden releases Images an Words live (official bootleg) with Blaze on vocals where does that rank?  :lol :lol :lol

They'd probably rewrite the chorus..

Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon
Under A Glass Moon

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« Reply #8588 on: May 31, 2022, 08:51:57 PM »
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #8589 on: May 31, 2022, 09:08:57 PM »
If Bruce re-recorded the Blaze albums do they rank higher?  :corn

People seem to think Bruce’s SOTC is better (it’s good, but I personally don’t think it’s “better) so there’s probably something to that.

I haven’t heard Bruce’s version of Lord of the Flies yet. (I think it’s on Death on the Road?) but people probably like that better too.

I stated it earlier, but I still maintain that Blaze’s Afraid to Shoot Strangers is better than Bruce’s.

I agree that Blaze is better on AtSS and Sign of the Cross. As for Lord of the Flies (yes, it's on Death on the Road), I think it's the only song where I would say Blaze is WAY better (as opposed to marginally better). It's not bad—Bruce has way too much talent for it to be bad—but that song just needs Blaze's baritone.



I don't think a single Blaze-era song would end up in my bottom ten. A huge chunk of it would come from Fear of the Dark, which I think is their worst album by a wide margin, and then I think the rest would come from NPftD and the Di'Anno era. Here's a shot at it just off the top of my head.

The Apparition
Weekend Warrior
Childhood's End
Chains of Misery
Charlotte the Harlot
Twilight Zone
Bring Your Daughter... to the Slaughter
The Assassin
Iron Maiden
Hooks in You

Dishonorable mentions would include Losfer Words, The Fugitive and New Frontier.
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« Reply #8590 on: May 31, 2022, 10:43:09 PM »
My Bottom 10 off the top of my head..


Losfer Words
The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner
Tailgunner
Hooks In You
Mother Russia
From Here To Eternity
Weekend Warrior
The Apparition
Judgement Of Heaven
The Angel And The Gambler
El Dorado


ok..that's 11

I think five of those are in my top 75 :biggrin:

Many may not like The Apparition but I love its uniqueness.
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« Reply #8591 on: May 31, 2022, 10:43:30 PM »
If we get 10 reasonable suggestions, maybe I’ll make a poll for IMs “worst song”. I think TAATG wins in a landslide.

Is it fair to include Blaze tunes? I know its technically Maiden but is it realllly Maiden? Hmmm?

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Re: The Iron Maiden Thread v. The Merge of Souls
« Reply #8592 on: May 31, 2022, 11:05:07 PM »
And if Blaze rerecords Somewhere In Time does it rank lower? Lets go off the rails here....... If Maiden releases Images an Words live (official bootleg) with Blaze on vocals where does that rank?  :lol :lol :lol

Probably would be better than how James sounds on the Tokyo 2017 version.
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« Reply #8593 on: June 01, 2022, 12:01:46 AM »
Loneliness might be one of my least favorite Maiden songs. It's just not completely fleshed out.

I agree. That's the song that stops SIT from being my #1 Maiden album. I've never liked it.
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« Reply #8594 on: June 01, 2022, 01:23:29 AM »
My bottom 10 would indeed mostly be songs from my two least favorite Maiden albums. In no particular order:

The Assasin
Hooks in you
Mother Russia
Childhood's end
The Fugitive
The Apparition
Weekend warrior

Two more songs from VXI I do not care about...

Don't look to the eyes of a stranger
When two worlds collide

And just for good measure, a song from the 80s:

Quest for fire

There are songs from the reunion era I do not personally love, but none of them would be in my bottom 10.

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« Reply #8595 on: June 01, 2022, 07:02:01 AM »
Is it fair to say Maiden do not have any song that flat out suck? I would love some responses. To me they have songs that are better than others but never recorded one that sucks.

The first songs that come to my mind are Holy Smoke and Hooks in You.

Two of the better songs from NPFTD.  I love the chorus to Hooks In You.

I think "sucks" is a strong word, but if I was to name a song that "sucks", I would say: Quest For Fire or Chains Of Misery

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« Reply #8596 on: June 01, 2022, 07:03:07 AM »
My Bottom 10 off the top of my head..


Losfer Words
The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner
Tailgunner
Hooks In You
Mother Russia
From Here To Eternity
Weekend Warrior
The Apparition
Judgement Of Heaven
The Angel And The Gambler
El Dorado


ok..that's 11

Shouldn't surprise you in the least, but three of those have the chance to be in my top 25 (Tailgunner, Hooks, and TAATG). 

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« Reply #8597 on: June 01, 2022, 07:04:15 AM »
Stadler, it wouldn’t surprise me if ALL of those songs were in your Top 25.  :lol
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« Reply #8598 on: June 01, 2022, 07:04:59 AM »
My Bottom 10 off the top of my head..


Losfer Words
The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner
Tailgunner
Hooks In You
Mother Russia
From Here To Eternity
Weekend Warrior
The Apparition
Judgement Of Heaven
The Angel And The Gambler
El Dorado


ok..that's 11

Hmm, well at least one huge outlier in that list!

Overall a couple of good choices but seeing that list means a bottom 10 would be pretty tough. I guess when Kev does the top 75 we will get an indication. I predict nearly every song you have listed here appears on at least 1 list in the top 75. And at least one song is a good chance for top 75.

I've already said that THREE of them may be in my TOP 25.  And two more - TLOTLDR and Hooks In You - might be in my top 75. 

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« Reply #8599 on: June 01, 2022, 07:06:49 AM »
A lot of those are great songs though.
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« Reply #8600 on: June 01, 2022, 07:08:18 AM »
I've always enjoyed Mother Russia, there are some great melodies in that one.
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« Reply #8601 on: June 01, 2022, 07:14:14 AM »
My bottom 10 would probably go like this (in chronological order):

Charlotte the Harlot
Holy Smoke
The Assassin
Hooks in You
Bring Your Daughter….To the Slaughter
Chains of Misery
The Apparition
The Angel and the Gambler
Don't Look to the Eyes of a Stranger
Satellite 15…The Final Frontier

Don't Look...has some nice guitar melodies but the whole thing sounds kinda...amateurish...? Even Nicko sounds like he doesn't want to be there, during the solos towards the end  ;)


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« Reply #8602 on: June 01, 2022, 07:15:01 AM »
Bold statement:

The only song in the Di'Anno/Bayley catalogues that Bruce DOESN'T sing better than the original singer is "Remember Tomorrow" (I hate his "AH-ah-AHHA!"'s).  That's not a dig on either Paul or Blaze -  I LOVE Di'Anno, I really like Bayley - but c'mon.  Bruce is one of the best metal singers that ever lived.  It's not really a fair comparison, because it was live, but seeing "The Sign Of The Cross" on the Legacy tour was transcendent moment for me.  It's one of the moments I was really looking forward to, and it delivered.

Maiden is a singular band; they have a style, they have a sort of... expectation.  Just because you're not the right guy for MAIDEN, doesn't mean you're not a good musician.  Plus, I understand from sources I trust that Blaze is a top notch human being too, which goes a long way.  He just wasn't a good fit for Iron Maiden. No crime in that.

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« Reply #8603 on: June 01, 2022, 07:48:23 AM »
He very much is yes.
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« Reply #8604 on: June 01, 2022, 09:45:27 AM »
Is it fair to say Maiden do not have any song that flat out suck? I would love some responses. To me they have songs that are better than others but never recorded one that sucks.

Twilight Zone
Bring Your Daughter...
Holy Smoke
Hooks in You
Back in the Village (j/k  :lol )

I listened to a couple of Bailey songs for the first time last week (don't recall which ones).  They kinda sucked.
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« Reply #8605 on: June 01, 2022, 10:42:37 AM »
Stadler, it wouldn’t surprise me if ALL of those songs were in your Top 25.  :lol

And that is the beauty of Maiden.

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« Reply #8606 on: June 01, 2022, 10:44:22 AM »
Stadler, it wouldn’t surprise me if ALL of those songs were in your Top 25.  :lol

And that is the beauty of Maiden.

Actually, that's the beauty of Stadler.  :lol
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« Reply #8607 on: June 01, 2022, 11:10:30 AM »
Is it fair to say Maiden do not have any song that flat out suck? I would love some responses. To me they have songs that are better than others but never recorded one that sucks.

Twilight Zone
Bring Your Daughter...
Holy Smoke
Hooks in You
Back in the Village (j/k  :lol )

I listened to a couple of Bailey songs for the first time last week (don't recall which ones).  They kinda sucked.
I'd argue about Twilight Zone (which isn't great, but not terrible) but am in full agreement with the others on your list, plus most of the Blaze albums - especially VXI.
 
 
I've always enjoyed Mother Russia, there are some great melodies in that one.
Agreed - I always associated it to being like a junior version of AtG.
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« Reply #8608 on: June 01, 2022, 11:34:08 AM »
Stadler, it wouldn’t surprise me if ALL of those songs were in your Top 25.  :lol

And that is the beauty of Maiden.

Actually, that's the beauty of Stadler.  :lol

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« Reply #8609 on: June 01, 2022, 03:44:29 PM »
And if Blaze rerecords Somewhere In Time does it rank lower? Lets go off the rails here....... If Maiden releases Images an Words live (official bootleg) with Blaze on vocals where does that rank?  :lol :lol :lol

Probably would be better than how James sounds on the Tokyo 2017 version.

Sadly I have to agree with you. Imagine Blaze singing "If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year
A man must learn to cope
If his obsession's real
Suppression that he feels must turn to hope"  YOWZA!