The Iron Maiden Thread v. The Merge of Souls

[porcacultor]

I think the issue I have with the soft intros are specifically to do with the ones that don't feel connected to the rest of the song (Benjamin Breeg, Lord Of Light, The Talisman, The Man Who Would Be King). I like dynamics & all, but when an acoustic/soft section lasts for like a minute & then abruptly ends & gets forgotten about, I can't help but feel like it's a bit of a waste. TBOS did a good job at making the dynamics feel continuous though, so I'm hoping Senjutsu follows up with that too.

I have to say I wholeheartedly agree with the regarding The Man Who Would Be King – in fact, I think that song could've started with the coda, which is much more interesting to me. I feel like some of Dave Murray's tracks don't really recover their intros in the end (even great songs like The Prophecy finish someplace different, whereas Harris' songs tend to have a more circular quality to them, I think).

[TAC]

The Talisman's intro perfectly sets up the song.

[wolfking]

The Talisman's intro perfectly sets up the song.

Indeed.

I never really had a problem with the intros.  I understand where people are coming from, but I've always enjoyed them.

[wolfking]

I think the issue I have with the soft intros are specifically to do with the ones that don't feel connected to the rest of the song (Benjamin Breeg, Lord Of Light, The Talisman, The Man Who Would Be King). I like dynamics & all, but when an acoustic/soft section lasts for like a minute & then abruptly ends & gets forgotten about, I can't help but feel like it's a bit of a waste. TBOS did a good job at making the dynamics feel continuous though, so I'm hoping Senjutsu follows up with that too.

I have to say I wholeheartedly agree with the regarding The Man Who Would Be King – in fact, I think that song could've started with the coda, which is much more interesting to me. I feel like some of Dave Murray's tracks don't really recover their intros in the end (even great songs like The Prophecy finish someplace different, whereas Harris' songs tend to have a more circular quality to them, I think).

Dave's songwriting is different and unique.  I think his tracks add nice variety to their represented albums.  He's also not afraid to break out of the E minor mould also giving his tracks a different colour throughout the albums.

[DoctorAction]

The Talisman is perfect, the intro included. Fact. No arguments, please. 

[cramx3]

The Talisman is perfect, the intro included. Fact. No arguments, please. 

My favorite off TFF, no argument from me

[425]

I think the issue I have with the soft intros are specifically to do with the ones that don't feel connected to the rest of the song (Benjamin Breeg, Lord Of Light, The Talisman, The Man Who Would Be King). I like dynamics & all, but when an acoustic/soft section lasts for like a minute & then abruptly ends & gets forgotten about, I can't help but feel like it's a bit of a waste. TBOS did a good job at making the dynamics feel continuous though, so I'm hoping Senjutsu follows up with that too.

I'm fully with the others who say The Talisman's intro is perfect. In fact, I would put it as the best quiet intro of any Iron Maiden song. The Talisman tells a story and that acoustic intro is a vital part of the story, which elevates the later parts.

I also think The Man Who Would Be King and Lord of Light have beautiful intros, so I certainly would not want to give those up for some notion of slightly better cohesion. Benjamin Breeg is the only one of these that feels a bit extra, but I've never minded its existence, and wouldn't want to see it cut.

[cramx3]

Bruce got covid

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iron-maidens-bruce-dickinson-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-being-fully-vaccinated/

Bruce said he took a lateral-flow COVID test after he started feeling like he was getting a cold, and it came back positive. "I thought, 'Oh well, shit,'" he said. "I was kind of sneezing a bit. For a couple of days, I felt a bit groggy, kind of like the flu, and that was it. And I'm 63 years old. I've pretty much got no doubt that had I not had the vaccine, I could be in serious trouble."


Dickinson went on to say that he doesn't personally believe that fans attending concerts should be required to get vaccinated, calling it "a personal choice," However, he said that he hopes everyone will get the shot. "Personally, I think people are just very badly advised if they don't go and get themselves double jabbed as quickly as possible, not for the reasons of going into concerts, but for their own health," he said. "Having said that, even if you've had a double jab, you can still get COVID, and therefore you can spread it to other people who might not have been vaccinated and they might get very sick and die. Now you cannot legislate against mortality. There are many things in this world that kill people and they’re not illegal but are unfortunate. Cancer kills a lot of people. Heart attacks kill a lot of people. Obesity kills a lot of people. Malaria kills a shitload of people every year… So at some point, we have to just go, 'We're probably going to have to live with this. And if we're going to live with it, then you have your vaccination.'"

[425]

Another short video from the studio. This one is with Adrian.

[faizoff]

Bruce got covid

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iron-maidens-bruce-dickinson-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-being-fully-vaccinated/

Bruce said he took a lateral-flow COVID test after he started feeling like he was getting a cold, and it came back positive. "I thought, 'Oh well, shit,'" he said. "I was kind of sneezing a bit. For a couple of days, I felt a bit groggy, kind of like the flu, and that was it. And I'm 63 years old. I've pretty much got no doubt that had I not had the vaccine, I could be in serious trouble."


Dickinson went on to say that he doesn't personally believe that fans attending concerts should be required to get vaccinated, calling it "a personal choice," However, he said that he hopes everyone will get the shot. "Personally, I think people are just very badly advised if they don't go and get themselves double jabbed as quickly as possible, not for the reasons of going into concerts, but for their own health," he said. "Having said that, even if you've had a double jab, you can still get COVID, and therefore you can spread it to other people who might not have been vaccinated and they might get very sick and die. Now you cannot legislate against mortality. There are many things in this world that kill people and they’re not illegal but are unfortunate. Cancer kills a lot of people. Heart attacks kill a lot of people. Obesity kills a lot of people. Malaria kills a shitload of people every year… So at some point, we have to just go, 'We're probably going to have to live with this. And if we're going to live with it, then you have your vaccination.'"

Dang, hope he pulls through just fine.

[cramx3]

The fact he says "that was it" makes me think he's either recovered or he's doing fine.  I'm not too worried based on what I read.  I'm glad he got vaxxed though, if he didn't, who knows the potential damage that could have been done.

[Stadler]

No pun intended, the guy is a beast.  Cancer, COVID, a 15-foot Eddie, the guy just keeps coming out on top.

[425]

Glad Bruce is okay. His take on the vaccine was very well-stated. I sort of hold my breath anytime a musician starts talking about anything like that these days.

[MirrorMask]

Glad Bruce is okay. His take on the vaccine was very well-stated. I sort of hold my breath anytime a musician starts talking about anything like that these days.

Yeah, as much as I love to troll on people believing the stupidiest things on the web, I must say he told what he told very brilliantly managing to be both sincere and diplomatic at the same time.

[Ben_Jamin]

I applaud his perspective and how he worded it.

Unfortunate he got it, also glad to know he didn't it too bad either. Not enough to be hospitalized, now that would have been worrying.

[RodrigoAltaf]

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/iron-maidens-new-album-senjutsu-facts-and-oddities/

[wolfking]

Bruce got covid

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iron-maidens-bruce-dickinson-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-being-fully-vaccinated/

Bruce said he took a lateral-flow COVID test after he started feeling like he was getting a cold, and it came back positive. "I thought, 'Oh well, shit,'" he said. "I was kind of sneezing a bit. For a couple of days, I felt a bit groggy, kind of like the flu, and that was it. And I'm 63 years old. I've pretty much got no doubt that had I not had the vaccine, I could be in serious trouble."


Dickinson went on to say that he doesn't personally believe that fans attending concerts should be required to get vaccinated, calling it "a personal choice," However, he said that he hopes everyone will get the shot. "Personally, I think people are just very badly advised if they don't go and get themselves double jabbed as quickly as possible, not for the reasons of going into concerts, but for their own health," he said. "Having said that, even if you've had a double jab, you can still get COVID, and therefore you can spread it to other people who might not have been vaccinated and they might get very sick and die. Now you cannot legislate against mortality. There are many things in this world that kill people and they’re not illegal but are unfortunate. Cancer kills a lot of people. Heart attacks kill a lot of people. Obesity kills a lot of people. Malaria kills a shitload of people every year… So at some point, we have to just go, 'We're probably going to have to live with this. And if we're going to live with it, then you have your vaccination.'"

Love this man.  Hope he recovers well.

[devieira73]

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/iron-maidens-new-album-senjutsu-facts-and-oddities/

Very cool curiosities, Rodrigo!
About the 13, although not 100% sure, I believe that Wildest Dreams from Dance of Death was played live before the release of the album, in a short greatest hits tour.

Edit: yes, it was: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/iron-maiden/2003/coliseum-corunna-spain-3bd39ca8.html

[RodrigoAltaf]

Here's a cool review from my buddy Tim from Bravewords: https://bravewords.com/reviews/iron-maiden-senjutsu

Note that he says something along the lines of "the problem of this song is that it just keeps going, and should be 3 minutes shorter" more than once...expect to be unimpressed with a few passages.

[TAC]

Here's a cool review from my buddy Tim from Bravewords: https://bravewords.com/reviews/iron-maiden-senjutsu

Note that he says something along the lines of "the problem of this song is that it just keeps going, and should be 3 minutes shorter" more than once...expect to be unimpressed with a few passages.

Huh..

That review has been up for a few days now, and I've held off against reading it. The reason is that I just expected a rubber stamped 10 on it.

A 7? Wow.. Bravewords is nobody's bitch!

[devieira73]

Here's a cool review from my buddy Tim from Bravewords: https://bravewords.com/reviews/iron-maiden-senjutsu

Note that he says something along the lines of "the problem of this song is that it just keeps going, and should be 3 minutes shorter" more than once...expect to be unimpressed with a few passages.

Well, I think that he only says that about 2 songs and this is what I normally feel about every album from the reunion era. Nowadays I'm cool with that and this doesn't take away my overall joy in listening to the new albums.

[MirrorMask]

Ironically those little cuts suggested by the reviewer were all that it took to not go for a double album again 

Sounds an honest and after all promising review, after all. I mean, all the songs seem to have something interesting, a couple maybe are a bit too long - didn't we already knew it in the last 20 years?

[ErHaO]

I usually like long winded atmospheric reunion era Maiden.

[Stadler]

I usually like long winded atmospheric reunion era Maiden.

Me too. 

[Mosh]

I usually like long winded atmospheric reunion era Maiden.

Me too.

Me too. I don’t mind that the album is polarizing, probably a good sign that this will be unique.

[wolfking]

I'm down for them too.

Really itching to hear another song too.

[WildRanger]

How would you rate their ballad "Wasting Love"?

I'd rate it 8/10.

[wolfking]

How would you rate their ballad "Wasting Love"?

I'd rate it 8/10.

Appreciate Maiden doing something different and especially a cheesy love song. Good song but not one of their bests.  Janick thrives with these sorts of solo sections.

6.9/10.

[Mladen]

7/10 seems about right, maybe even slightly generous. It is not bad by any means, but not what I think Maiden does best. The song was stylistically worth the shot, even though they were five years late. 

[RodrigoAltaf]

How would you rate their ballad "Wasting Love"?

I'd rate it 8/10.

4/10

[TAC]

It’s a decent enough song. I’ve never had a problem with it and I like that they wrote something like that, which was quite different for them.

[RodrigoAltaf]

 I'm listening to the whole Maiden catalogue in sequence in anticipation for the new album. While going through The Number of the beast today I remember telling a friend about The Prisoner and saying that "this is a longer song, with lots of ideas and moods in it, and it's really cool". At 06min03s, nowadays this would be considered a shorter song in their catalogue.

[Dedalus]

I'm listening to the whole Maiden catalogue in sequence in anticipation for the new album. While going through The Number of the beast today I remember telling a friend about The Prisoner and saying that "this is a longer song, with lots of ideas and moods in it, and it's really cool". At 06min03s, nowadays this would be considered a shorter song in their catalogue.

Me too.

Listening to the two albums from the 90s with Bruce (and generally less commented) I decided to make a top 10 of my favorite songs (from both albums):

01 Fear of the Dark
02 Wasting Love
03 Tailgunner
04 No Prayer for the Dying
05 Be Quick or Be Dead
06 Afraid to Shoot Strangers
07 Mother Russia
08 Bring Your Daughter... to the Slaughter
09 Holy Smoke
10 Fear is the Key

If someone else does too, it would be interesting to see.

[RodrigoAltaf]

I'm listening to the whole Maiden catalogue in sequence in anticipation for the new album. While going through The Number of the beast today I remember telling a friend about The Prisoner and saying that "this is a longer song, with lots of ideas and moods in it, and it's really cool". At 06min03s, nowadays this would be considered a shorter song in their catalogue.

Me too.

Listening to the two albums from the 90s with Bruce (and generally less commented) I decided to make a top 10 of my favorite songs (from both albums):

01 Fear of the Dark
02 Wasting Love
03 Tailgunner
04 No Prayer for the Dying
05 Be Quick or Be Dead
06 Afraid to Shoot Strangers
07 Mother Russia
08 Bring Your Daughter... to the Slaughter
09 Holy Smoke
10 Fear is the Key

If someone else does too, it would be interesting to see.

I wouldn't necessarily pick the same ones, but if you take the best ten songs from both albums, they would be a pretty solid effort. "Fear of the Dying" would kick ass!!!

[TAC]

I've posted mine a couple of times in this thread. I'll have to find it..or make another one.