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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #630 on: August 07, 2015, 02:37:12 PM »
I pretty much agree with that, Powerslave right behind those two 80s albums. 

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« Reply #631 on: August 07, 2015, 03:59:40 PM »
Well, who isn't?  :biggrin:

Paul Di'Anno, maybe? :biggrin:

I do think that SiT and SSoaSS are the classic era's two best albums. SiT being the most technically challenging and progressive work from the band and SSoaSS is arguably the musical culmination of Maiden through out that whole decade. However I lean a lot towards AMOLAD and have for a long time. :metal

They were two of the weakest for me.

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PoM
NOTB
SSoaSS
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Of the rest only BNW and AMOLAD are worthy of being in the same company, though all the albums have some great stuff in there, even the Blaze albums  :omg:

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« Reply #632 on: August 07, 2015, 04:10:50 PM »
Premiere of the new song only a week away.  :metal

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« Reply #633 on: August 07, 2015, 04:26:54 PM »
Well, who isn't?  :biggrin:

Paul Di'Anno, maybe? :biggrin:

I do think that SiT and SSoaSS are the classic era's two best albums. SiT being the most technically challenging and progressive work from the band and SSoaSS is arguably the musical culmination of Maiden through out that whole decade. However I lean a lot towards AMOLAD and have for a long time. :metal

They were two of the weakest for me.

Killers
Powerslave
PoM
NOTB
SSoaSS
IM
SiT

Of the rest only BNW and AMOLAD are worthy of being in the same company, though all the albums have some great stuff in there, even the Blaze albums  :omg:

I like the other classic albums and have grown to better appreciate them over the past year or so (especially NotB), but SSoaSS and SiT are both more consistent in quality than the previous albums of the 80's. PoM would probably be the closest in quality, but then it has Quest for Fire and arguably Sun & Steel botching that up in the tail-end of the album.

Besides SSoaSS has its title track, which is the best song Maiden wrote in the 80's. Even over Rime or Hallowed.
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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #634 on: August 07, 2015, 04:28:30 PM »
Besides SSoaSS has its title track, which is the best song Maiden wrote in the 80's. Even over Rime or Hallowed.

I think I agree with this.

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« Reply #635 on: August 07, 2015, 04:30:46 PM »
Premiere of the new song only a week away.  :metal

Can't wait. Hopefully we'll start getting more interviews and reviews by then too! :metal :hefdaddy

Besides SSoaSS has its title track, which is the best song Maiden wrote in the 80's. Even over Rime or Hallowed.

I think I agree with this.

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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #636 on: August 07, 2015, 04:31:13 PM »
Rime yes.
Hallowed. I'm not going there.
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« Reply #637 on: August 07, 2015, 04:41:06 PM »
Rime yes.
Hallowed. I'm not going there.

Hallowed is a classic, no questions there. It's actually very close between it and SSoaSS for me, actually, with Phantom of the Opera somewhere in the middle of the mix too. I think both are pretty much flawless songs, so I can see why people might prefer Hallowed.

SSoaSS just has this sense of 'majesty' to it that no other song in Maiden's discography has and the instrumental outro is right there with Powerslave as Adrian and Dave's finest moment as a twin guitar duo. Not to mention Bruce's vocals. Hearing him sing that long note (you know the one) live in 2013 was an otherworldly experience.
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« Reply #638 on: August 07, 2015, 04:52:32 PM »
SSOASS is great. I have it around #10 whereas I have Phantom about #5.
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« Reply #639 on: August 07, 2015, 05:04:35 PM »
SSOASS is great. I have it around #10 whereas I have Phantom about #5.

Phantom's been a huge grower for me over the years. I always loved the opening and main riff, but it took me a few years to really appreciate the song as a whole. Once I did, it just kept climbing further and further up my favorites list. That said, the best version of the song would almost definitely be the Beast over Hammersmith live version with a newly added Bruce on vocals.
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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #640 on: August 07, 2015, 07:00:38 PM »
1. Hallowed
2. Rime
3. Legacy

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« Reply #641 on: August 07, 2015, 07:31:27 PM »
1. Hallowed
2. Rime
3. Legacy

The Legacy is another masterpiece! Right there with Lord of Light as my favorite song off of AMOLAD. :metal :tup
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« Reply #642 on: August 09, 2015, 04:09:33 AM »
I think SOTC still gets my number one vote.
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« Reply #643 on: August 09, 2015, 05:29:03 AM »
Same with me.

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« Reply #644 on: August 09, 2015, 08:35:18 AM »
I think SOTC still gets my number one vote.

SotC is definitely a top 3 or 5 Maiden song for me. That said, I'm not sure where exactly it is for me these days.
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« Reply #645 on: August 09, 2015, 09:02:24 AM »
I think SOTC still gets my number one vote.

Yeah, Sign of the Cross may well be my number one, too. Other contenders would be Hallowed, The Legacy and, honestly, a handful of songs off TFF (that run of five epics at the end is the best five-song run in the Maiden discography and only The Man Who Would Be King doesn't come immediately to mind when I think about a top ten).
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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #646 on: August 09, 2015, 09:49:50 AM »
As bad as the Blaze era is generally considered, I think Sign of the Cross and Clansman would both be in my top5 Maiden songs, so there's that.

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« Reply #647 on: August 09, 2015, 10:06:55 AM »
Blaze era doesn't have many great songs, but Sign of the Cross, Clansman and The Educated Fool are awesome.

I would put Dream of Mirrors and The Thin Line Between Love and Hate in my top.10, Both are some of the best material of the reunion era IMO.

SSoaSS, The Legacy, Hallowed Be Thy Name, Revelations and Dream of Mirrors would probably be my top.5.
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« Reply #648 on: August 09, 2015, 10:35:40 AM »
What's amazing is how many GREAT songs they have. Not just good but great.
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« Reply #649 on: August 09, 2015, 11:32:38 AM »
If I'd have to rank the three songs in question (which are all at least in my top 15) it would probably be:

1. Hallowed
2. Rime
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« Reply #650 on: August 09, 2015, 01:42:12 PM »
SSoaSS is mostly great, but truly suffers for the lame chorus.    I've always said that beginning with SiT and going forward (culminating in the abysmal VXI) 'Arry got incredibly lazy with his chorus'.    That was probably the most refreshing thing about AMOLAD.   There were only maybe 2 songs out of 10 with one phrase repeating itself over and over again.   That's quite a bit more in the ratio of early IM albums.   From SiT forward, at least half of the songs were like that.
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« Reply #651 on: August 09, 2015, 03:41:37 PM »
I'd go as far as saying Maiden don't have any bad songs, just songs that aren't as good as others.

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« Reply #652 on: August 09, 2015, 04:05:31 PM »
I'd go as far as saying Maiden don't have any bad songs, just songs that aren't as good as others.

absolutely true

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« Reply #653 on: August 09, 2015, 04:07:14 PM »
El Dorado, Bring Your Daughter and From Here to Eternity are on the edge of being bad though.

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« Reply #654 on: August 09, 2015, 04:08:18 PM »
El Dorado, Bring Your Daughter and From Here to Eternity are on the edge of being bad though.

I can't think of any songs from Maiden that I would even remotely consider bad or close to it.

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« Reply #655 on: August 09, 2015, 04:10:34 PM »
El Dorado, Bring Your Daughter and From Here to Eternity are on the edge of being bad though.

I can't think of any songs from Maiden that I would even remotely consider bad or close to it.

The Angel and the Gambler is arguably a bad song, I think. Easily Maiden's worst song.
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« Reply #656 on: August 09, 2015, 04:12:28 PM »
Yeah that one too.  Although the edited version is excellent.

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« Reply #657 on: August 09, 2015, 04:17:26 PM »
Yeah that one too.  Although the edited version is excellent.

I've never actually listened to the edited version. I imagine it'd probably help tremendously, but I think the chorus itself is probably the worst offender of the old "repeated lyrics" complaint in Iron Maiden's discography.
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« Reply #658 on: August 09, 2015, 04:21:19 PM »
Yeah that one too.  Although the edited version is excellent.

I've never actually listened to the edited version. I imagine it'd probably help tremendously, but I think the chorus itself is probably the worst offender of the old "repeated lyrics" complaint in Iron Maiden's discography.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhlRyxWU21s

I think it's better than what you may think.

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« Reply #659 on: August 09, 2015, 04:22:09 PM »
Speaking of Blaze, I wanna say that Virus is a fuckin' good song.

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« Reply #660 on: August 09, 2015, 04:33:52 PM »
Yeah that one too.  Although the edited version is excellent.

I've never actually listened to the edited version. I imagine it'd probably help tremendously, but I think the chorus itself is probably the worst offender of the old "repeated lyrics" complaint in Iron Maiden's discography.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhlRyxWU21s

I think it's better than what you may think.

No, this is about what I expected it to be. Editing it down did the song a huge favor, so it's not nearly as bad as the album version is, but the chorus still stinks it up. It's just too repetitive. I can't see Bruce or even Paul doing a better job with that chorus either, it just flat-out needed more time and effort from Steve.

Speaking of Blaze, I wanna say that Virus is a fuckin' good song.

I'm not sure what I think of Virus. It seems like good ideas, but they haven't really clicked with me yet. Granted, I don't think I've listened to the song more than three or four times in my seven years of being a Maiden fan.
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« Reply #661 on: August 09, 2015, 04:39:12 PM »
Speaking of Blaze, I wanna say that Virus is a fuckin' good song.

great song

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« Reply #662 on: August 09, 2015, 05:07:54 PM »
Speaking of Blaze, I wanna say that Virus is a fuckin' good song.

great song

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« Reply #663 on: August 09, 2015, 08:24:26 PM »
El Dorado, Bring Your Daughter and From Here to Eternity are on the edge of being bad though.

El Dorado is great.

The other two are silly.

The Angel and the Gambler is arguably a bad song, I think. Easily Maiden's worst song.

Angel and the Gambler is awesome. It's harmed significantly by being way too long, but the actual good song hidden in the bloat is awesome.



I'd go as far as saying Maiden don't have any bad songs, just songs that aren't as good as others.

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« Reply #664 on: August 09, 2015, 08:39:44 PM »
The Apparition is a horrible song, as is Weekend Warrior. And don't get me started on the Virtual XI material.