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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #70 on: March 21, 2015, 03:16:59 PM »
1. Remember Tomorrow vs Coming Home
2. Phantom of the Opera vs Dance of Death
3. Wrathchild vs Ghost of the Navigator
4. Killers vs Paschendale
5. Children of the Damned vs Out of the Shadows
6. Number of the Beast vs Starblind
7. Run to the Hills vs The Longest Day
8. Hallowed be Thy Name vs For the Greater Good of God
9. Revelations vs Sign of the Cross
10. Flight of Icarus vs No Prayer for the Dying
11. The Trooper vs Wickerman
12. To Tame a Land vs Blood Brothers
13. Aces High vs Different World
14. Two Minutes to Midnight vs El Dorado
15. Powerslave vs The Nomad
16. Rime of the Ancient Mariner vs When the Wild Wind Blows
17. Caught Somewhere in Time vs Isle of Avalon
18. Wasted Years vs Rainmaker
19. Sea of Madness vs Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
20. Stranger in a Strange Land vs Afraid to Shoot Strangers
21. Alexander the Great vs The Clansman
22. Moonchild vs The Talisman
23. Infinite Dreams vs Journeyman
24. The Evil That Men Do vs Fear of the Dark
25. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son vs Legacy

Yeah, I prefer the "classic" Maiden era :lol
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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2015, 03:28:34 PM »
I love modern Maiden, but there's too many classics from their 80s stuff for me to do that and it not wind up a first rate beatdown for the classics.  :lol
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« Reply #72 on: March 21, 2015, 04:11:27 PM »
Haven't listened to much Iron Maiden in a long time, but I'll try this just based off of which one I have a more positive impression of at this moment.

1. Remember Tomorrow vs Coming Home
2. Phantom of the Opera vs Dance of Death
3. Wrathchild vs Ghost of the Navigator
4. Killers vs Paschendale
5. Children of the Damned vs Out of the Shadows
6. Number of the Beast vs Starblind
7. Run to the Hills vs The Longest Day
8. Hallowed be Thy Name vs For the Greater Good of God
9. Revelations vs Sign of the Cross
10. Flight of Icarus vs No Prayer for the Dying
11. The Trooper vs The Wicker Man
12. To Tame a Land vs Blood Brothers
13. Aces High vs Different World
14. Two Minutes to Midnight vs El Dorado
15. Powerslave vs The Nomad
16. Rime of the Ancient Mariner vs When the Wild Wind Blows
17. Caught Somewhere in Time vs Isle of Avalon
18. Wasted Years vs Rainmaker
19. Sea of Madness vs Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
20. Stranger in a Strange Land vs Afraid to Shoot Strangers
21. Alexander the Great vs The Clansman
22. Moonchild vs The Talisman
23. Infinite Dreams vs Journeyman
24. The Evil That Men Do vs Fear of the Dark
25. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son vs The Legacy

14-11... Pretty close, but the classics did better than I thought they would.

A lot of these were extremely close matches for me. I love For The Greater Good of God, but I couldn't pull the trigger against Hallowed Be Thy Name. I could just barely pull the trigger against Rime and Seventh Son for When the Wild Wind Blows and The Legacy respectively. But honestly that's a collection of 6 tracks that probably all belong in my top ten.

This has me thinking... Maiden was the first band I really got into, but I never made a top songs list for them. Maybe I'll do a discography run and see about doing that.
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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2015, 04:46:10 PM »
1. Remember Tomorrow vs Coming Home
2. Phantom of the Opera vs Dance of Death
3. Wrathchild vs Ghost of the Navigator
4. Killers vs Paschendale
5. Children of the Damned vs Out of the Shadows
6. Number of the Beast vs Starblind - this probably just comes down to NOTB being overplayed, it's probably a stronger song.
7. Run to the Hills vs The Longest Day - ditto.
8. Hallowed be Thy Name vs For the Greater Good of God
9. Revelations vs Sign of the Cross - fucking tough choice, but Revelations has my favourite H moments (solo and riff after <3 )
10. Flight of Icarus vs No Prayer for the Dying - average Maiden vs well-underrated Maiden.
11. The Trooper vs The Wicker Man
12. To Tame a Land vs Blood Brothers
13. Aces High vs Different World
14. Two Minutes to Midnight vs El Dorado
15. Powerslave vs The Nomad
16. Rime of the Ancient Mariner vs When the Wild Wind Blows - no contest
17. Caught Somewhere in Time vs Isle of Avalon
18. Wasted Years vs Rainmaker
19. Sea of Madness vs Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
20. Stranger in a Strange Land vs Afraid to Shoot Strangers
21. Alexander the Great vs The Clansman
22. Moonchild vs The Talisman
23. Infinite Dreams vs Journeyman - another tough one, I really like Journeyman (perhaps this would be better off paired against Prodigal Son?)
24. The Evil That Men Do vs Fear of the Dark
25. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son vs The Legacy

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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2015, 03:34:04 AM »
Ooh, this will be fun.

1. Remember Tomorrow vs Coming Home
2. Phantom of the Opera vs Dance of Death
3. Wrathchild vs Ghost of the Navigator
4. Killers vs Paschendale
5. Children of the Damned vs Out of the Shadows
6. Number of the Beast vs Starblind
7. Run to the Hills vs The Longest Day
8. Hallowed be Thy Name vs For the Greater Good of God
9. Revelations vs Sign of the Cross
10. Flight of Icarus vs No Prayer for the Dying
11. The Trooper vs Wickerman
12. To Tame a Land vs Blood Brothers
13. Aces High vs Different World
14. Two Minutes to Midnight vs El Dorado
15. Powerslave vs The Nomad
16. Rime of the Ancient Mariner vs When the Wild Wind Blows
17. Caught Somewhere in Time vs Isle of Avalon
18. Wasted Years vs Rainmaker
19. Sea of Madness vs Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
20. Stranger in a Strange Land vs Afraid to Shoot Strangers
21. Alexander the Great vs The Clansman
22. Moonchild vs The Talisman
23. Infinite Dreams vs Journeyman
24. The Evil That Men Do vs Fear of the Dark
25. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son vs Legacy

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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #75 on: March 22, 2015, 04:42:53 AM »
1. Remember Tomorrow vs Coming Home
2. Phantom of the Opera vs Dance of Death
3. Wrathchild vs Ghost of the Navigator
4. Killers vs Paschendale
5. Children of the Damned vs Out of the Shadows
6. Number of the Beast vs Starblind
7. Run to the Hills vs The Longest Day
8. Hallowed be Thy Name vs For the Greater Good of God
9. Revelations vs Sign of the Cross
10. Flight of Icarus vs No Prayer for the Dying
11. The Trooper vs Wickerman
12. To Tame a Land vs Blood Brothers
13. Aces High vs Different World
14. Two Minutes to Midnight vs El Dorado
15. Powerslave vs The Nomad
16. Rime of the Ancient Mariner vs When the Wild Wind Blows
17. Caught Somewhere in Time vs Isle of Avalon
18. Wasted Years vs Rainmaker
19. Sea of Madness vs Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
20. Stranger in a Strange Land vs Afraid to Shoot Strangers
21. Alexander the Great vs The Clansman
22. Moonchild vs The Talisman
23. Infinite Dreams vs Journeyman
24. The Evil That Men Do vs Fear of the Dark
25. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son vs Legacy

13-12 in favour of the Classic Era. That sounds about right  - I love both eras for different reasons, but about equally.
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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #76 on: March 22, 2015, 04:45:16 AM »
I'm in;

1. Remember Tomorrow vs Coming Home
2. Phantom of the Opera vs Dance of Death
3. Wrathchild vs Ghost of the Navigator
4. Killers vs Paschendale
5. Children of the Damned vs Out of the Shadows
6. Number of the Beast vs Starblind
7. Run to the Hills vs The Longest Day
8. Hallowed be Thy Name vs For the Greater Good of God
9. Revelations vs Sign of the Cross
10. Flight of Icarus vs No Prayer for the Dying
11. The Trooper vs Wickerman
12. To Tame a Land vs Blood Brothers
13. Aces High vs Different World
14. Two Minutes to Midnight vs El Dorado
15. Powerslave vs The Nomad
16. Rime of the Ancient Mariner vs When the Wild Wind Blows
17. Caught Somewhere in Time vs Isle of Avalon
18. Wasted Years vs Rainmaker
19. Sea of Madness vs Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
20. Stranger in a Strange Land vs Afraid to Shoot Strangers
21. Alexander the Great vs The Clansman
22. Moonchild vs The Talisman
23. Infinite Dreams vs Journeyman
24. The Evil That Men Do vs Fear of the Dark
25. Seventh Son of a Seventh Sonvs Legacy

Some really good matchups in there, well done.
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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2015, 08:30:18 AM »
I never understood head to head song matchups. How about ranking the songs and seeing if classic or reunion has most albums at the top?

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« Reply #78 on: March 22, 2015, 08:39:34 AM »
1. Remember Tomorrow vs Coming Home
2. Phantom of the Opera vs Dance of Death
3. Wrathchild vs Ghost of the Navigator
4. Killers vs Paschendale
5. Children of the Damned vs Out of the Shadows
6. Number of the Beast vs Starblind
7. Run to the Hills vs The Longest Day
8. Hallowed be Thy Name vs For the Greater Good of God
9. Revelations vs Sign of the Cross
10. Flight of Icarus vs No Prayer for the Dying
11. The Trooper vs Wickerman
12. To Tame a Land vs Blood Brothers
13. Aces High vs Different World
14. Two Minutes to Midnight vs El Dorado
15. Powerslave vs The Nomad
16. Rime of the Ancient Mariner vs When the Wild Wind Blows
17. Caught Somewhere in Time vs Isle of Avalon
18. Wasted Years vs Rainmaker
19. Sea of Madness vs Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
20. Stranger in a Strange Land vs Afraid to Shoot Strangers
21. Alexander the Great vs The Clansman
22. Moonchild vs The Talisman
23. Infinite Dreams vs Journeyman
24. The Evil That Men Do vs Fear of the Dark
25. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son vs Legacy
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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2015, 09:20:54 AM »
I pick the 80s song for every matchup

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« Reply #80 on: March 22, 2015, 09:23:01 AM »
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By the way, today in 1982 a certain album called 'The Number Of The Beast' was released!
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« Reply #81 on: March 22, 2015, 09:25:13 AM »
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By the way, today in 1982 a certain album called 'The Number Of The Beast' was released!

Awesome! I heard it was pretty good.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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By the way, today in 1982 a certain album called 'The Number Of The Beast' was released!

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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #83 on: March 22, 2015, 02:39:56 PM »
1. Remember Tomorrow vs Coming Home
2. Phantom of the Opera vs Dance of Death
3. Wrathchild vs Ghost of the Navigator
4. Killers vs Paschendale (this matchup is not fair :p)
5. Children of the Damned vs Out of the Shadows
6. Number of the Beast vs Starblind
7. Run to the Hills vs The Longest Day
8. Hallowed be Thy Name vs For the Greater Good of God
9. Revelations vs Sign of the Cross
10. Flight of Icarus vs No Prayer for the Dying
11. The Trooper vs Wickerman
12. To Tame a Land vs Blood Brothers
13. Aces High vs Different World
14. Two Minutes to Midnight vs El Dorado
15. Powerslave vs The Nomad
16. Rime of the Ancient Mariner vs When the Wild Wind Blows
17. Caught Somewhere in Time vs Isle of Avalon
18. Wasted Years vs Rainmaker
19. Sea of Madness vs Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
20. Stranger in a Strange Land vs Afraid to Shoot Strangers
21. Alexander the Great vs The Clansman
22. Moonchild vs The Talisman
23. Infinite Dreams vs Journeyman
24. The Evil That Men Do vs Fear of the Dark
25. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son vs Legacy

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« Reply #84 on: March 22, 2015, 04:41:45 PM »
I will never get why people love, or even like, Wasted Years. It has a cool intro riff and the rest of the song is just so painfully mediocre.
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« Reply #85 on: March 22, 2015, 05:40:27 PM »
I will never get why people love, or even like, Wasted Years. It has a cool intro riff and the rest of the song is just so painfully mediocre.

I think it's well done, and it's a step out of their normal comfort zone. One of the reasons that I like Dance of Death (the album) so much is that they do this quite frequently on that album as well. Many of the songs aren't "cliche'" maiden songs, and they do a very good job with them. It's nice to see a band change it up from time to time.
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« Reply #86 on: March 22, 2015, 05:51:30 PM »
Musically, it's not very strong, but I love the lyrics to Wasted Years.
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« Reply #87 on: March 22, 2015, 06:08:46 PM »
I will never get why people love, or even like, Wasted Years. It has a cool intro riff and the rest of the song is just so painfully mediocre.

I think it's well done, and it's a step out of their normal comfort zone. One of the reasons that I like Dance of Death (the album) so much is that they do this quite frequently on that album as well. Many of the songs aren't "cliche'" maiden songs, and they do a very good job with them. It's nice to see a band change it up from time to time.

I'm all for changing up formulas, but I just think the result is painfully lacking on Wasted Years. Most of Dance of Death does it far better.
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« Reply #89 on: March 22, 2015, 07:04:10 PM »
I will never get why people love, or even like, Wasted Years. It has a cool intro riff and the rest of the song is just so painfully mediocre.

I think it's well done, and it's a step out of their normal comfort zone. One of the reasons that I like Dance of Death (the album) so much is that they do this quite frequently on that album as well. Many of the songs aren't "cliche'" maiden songs, and they do a very good job with them. It's nice to see a band change it up from time to time.

I'm all for changing up formulas, but I just think the result is painfully lacking on Wasted Years. Most of Dance of Death does it far better.

Wasted Years is awesome, and I'd agree that it works well as a departure from standard Maiden.  Plus it's got one of H's greatest solos.  I put this and Stranger in a Strange Land in the same basket; both out of the box Maiden songs that show that the band can write catchy, radio-friendly hooks if they so desire.  I reckon a lot of it depends on how much you value Adrian's contributions to Maiden - I happen to think he's their strongest songwriter when he gets going.

I love the lyrics to Wasted Years.

Wasted Years was THE singalong moment of the concert I saw them at.  Just so epic and nostalgic.  It takes me back to my younger years, chilling in my older brother's room on a warm sunny day playing hooky and thrashing Maiden. <3

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« Reply #90 on: March 22, 2015, 07:37:29 PM »
I will never get why people love, or even like, Wasted Years. It has a cool intro riff and the rest of the song is just so painfully mediocre.

You spelled "incredible" wrong.

Wasted Years rules.  That is all.  :metal
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« Reply #91 on: March 22, 2015, 08:02:49 PM »
I will never get why people love, or even like, Wasted Years. It has a cool intro riff and the rest of the song is just so painfully mediocre.

I'll never get why people love, or even like, the entire Somewhere in Time album.    Wasted Years is one of the not so bad moments.  My personal favorite is Sea of Madness.   Stranger in a Strange Land is decent.   Heaven Can Wait is better live than on the album. 

After the first 5 albums of nearly top to bottom perfection, SiT just seemed very 'meh'...
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« Reply #92 on: March 22, 2015, 08:06:54 PM »
Wasted Years is awesome, and I'd agree that it works well as a departure from standard Maiden.  Plus it's got one of H's greatest solos.  I put this and Stranger in a Strange Land in the same basket; both out of the box Maiden songs that show that the band can write catchy, radio-friendly hooks if they so desire.  I reckon a lot of it depends on how much you value Adrian's contributions to Maiden - I happen to think he's their strongest songwriter when he gets going.

Agree 100%. Honestly, this is true of a lot of Somewhere In Time. It's a very Adrian-heavy album, which I love, and it's a definite modification of the Maiden formula that had been used on the last three albums at least. Caught Somewhere In Time, Wasted Years and Stranger In a Strange Land are not songs you would have found on Powerslave. It's a shame they've always neglected this album so much live. Nowadays they only play Wasted Years and Heaven Can Wait. Would love for them to bring out Stranger In a Strange Land or Alexander the Great.

I'll never get why people love, or even like, the entire Somewhere in Time album.    Wasted Years is one of the not so bad moments.  My personal favorite is Sea of Madness.   Stranger in a Strange Land is decent.   Heaven Can Wait is better live than on the album. 

After the first 5 albums of nearly top to bottom perfection, SiT just seemed very 'meh'...

I'll grant that Deja Vu and even The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner are fairly unremarkable songs. But the other six tracks are stellar, in my opinion.

And I have to say... Powerslave is praised up and down, but it has four very mediocre songs right in the middle. Yes Aces High, 2 Minutes to Midnight, the title track and Rime of the Ancient Mariner are all classics, but there's a lot of... well, meh on that album.
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« Reply #93 on: March 22, 2015, 09:46:29 PM »
I'll never get why people love, or even like, the entire Somewhere in Time album.    Wasted Years is one of the not so bad moments.  My personal favorite is Sea of Madness.   Stranger in a Strange Land is decent.   Heaven Can Wait is better live than on the album. 

After the first 5 albums of nearly top to bottom perfection, SiT just seemed very 'meh'...

I'll grant that Deja Vu and even The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner are fairly unremarkable songs. But the other six tracks are stellar, in my opinion.

And I have to say... Powerslave is praised up and down, but it has four very mediocre songs right in the middle. Yes Aces High, 2 Minutes to Midnight, the title track and Rime of the Ancient Mariner are all classics, but there's a lot of... well, meh on that album.

SIT > Powerslave.  Not by much though.  Like, I really rate Losfer Words and Flash of the Blade, but not more than Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner or Deja Vu.  Well, Deja Vu is kinda crap.  SIT is definitely stronger all round though, and Alexander the Great is far better structured than Rime - which is basically only an epic thanks to the 4 minutes of volume swirls in the middle. 

EDIT:  I get the feeling that Powerslave is more liked by folk who have a soft spot for Power Metal whereas SIT probably appeals more to the Progressive, maybe even progressive pop sorta crowd.  Songs like Flash of the Blade and The Duellists kinda fit in with my idea of what Power Metal is, along with songs like Quest for Fire and Sun and Steel.  But that might just be my subliminal idea that Power Metal is basically sub-par cheese fests, I dunno.  :lol

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« Reply #94 on: March 22, 2015, 09:55:16 PM »
Never got the hate for the middle portion of PS.   Losfer Words is my favorite IM instrumental (ya...I said it).   And FotB is one of the coolest IM riffs there is. 

And don't get me started on Back in the Villiage.  What a scorcher!   Better than anything on SiT
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« Reply #95 on: March 22, 2015, 10:02:16 PM »
While I would say that the middle of Powerslave is far too overlooked, and that it is an excellent album because it is 4 strong tracks bookended by 4 amazing tracks, if you think BitV is better than anything from SiT... I just don't know what to say.
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« Reply #96 on: March 22, 2015, 10:06:56 PM »
Maybe I'm biased because it's another "Prisoner" song.   But I think that riff really shreds loops around many other IM songs.
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« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2015, 05:35:16 AM »
The middle four songs of PS are obviously a little weaker, but really, not much.  Those four songs show so much depth and some of the most intricate and layered instrumental sections the band have ever produced.
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« Reply #98 on: March 23, 2015, 11:11:03 AM »
1. Remember Tomorrow vs Coming Home
2. Phantom of the Opera vs Dance of Death
3. Wrathchild vs Ghost of the Navigator
4. Killers vs Paschendale
5. Children of the Damned vs Out of the Shadows
6. Number of the Beast vs Starblind
7. Run to the Hills vs The Longest Day
8. Hallowed be Thy Name vs For the Greater Good of God
9. Revelations vs Sign of the Cross
10. Flight of Icarus vs No Prayer for the Dying
11. The Trooper vs Wickerman
12. To Tame a Land vs Blood Brothers
13. Aces High vs Different World
14. Two Minutes to Midnight vs El Dorado
15. Powerslave vs The Nomad
16. Rime of the Ancient Mariner vs When the Wild Wind Blows
17. Caught Somewhere in Time vs Isle of Avalon
18. Wasted Years vs Rainmaker
19. Sea of Madness vs Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
20. Stranger in a Strange Land vs Afraid to Shoot Strangers
21. Alexander the Great vs The Clansman
22. Moonchild vs The Talisman
23. Infinite Dreams vs Journeyman
24. The Evil That Men Do vs Fear of the Dark
25. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son vs Legacy

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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #99 on: March 23, 2015, 11:54:24 AM »
The middle four songs of PS are obviously a little weaker, but really, not much.  Those four songs show so much depth and some of the most intricate and layered instrumental sections the band have ever produced.
Agreed. The instrumental part of The Duelists is my favorite part of the album.

When Powerslave came out, I did not care for it. In fact, I probably would've skipped the tour had Accept not opened. I just felt that while the band was growing with each album, I didn't feel Powerslave continued that path.
I loved Somewhere In Time when it came out because it sounded so fresh, where I thought Powerslave sounded contrived and stale.

And while Caught Somewhere In Time is still a Top 5 Maiden track for me, the album hasn't aged all that well, whereas I feel Powerslave has aged better. Go figure.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #100 on: March 23, 2015, 11:59:01 AM »
SiT is probably my second favorite album behind A Matter of Life and Death. 

Wasted Years, Loneliness, and Deja Vu are great songs IMO.

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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #101 on: March 23, 2015, 12:16:26 PM »
SiT is probably my second favorite album behind A Matter of Life and Death. 

Wasted Years, Loneliness, and Deja Vu are great songs IMO.


When "Somewhere In Time" was released I was not a fan of Iron Maiden's new sound which was relying more and more heavily on synths.   But for some reason when "7th Son" came out, I loved it despite the synths and then I went back to SiT and it hit me like a 2 ton heavy thing.

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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #102 on: March 23, 2015, 12:21:01 PM »
That's interesting, Kirk. When you think about it, Seventh Son is really a marriage of the Powerslave and Somewhere In Time styles.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #103 on: March 23, 2015, 01:00:18 PM »
Apparently a lot of the IM fans at the time of release of SiT were not big fans but were able to go back and realize how awesome it is.  I think like Kirk said, the synths threw a lot of fans off.  People like myself who didn't become fans until after reunion, see the album from a different view (maybe because synths in metal is common?).  Sadly, it seems like the members of IM think lowly on the album themselves. 

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Re: THE El Dorado Thread (and other Iron Maiden related musings)
« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2015, 01:15:50 PM »
It's still my favorite tour from them.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol