The Iron Maiden Thread v. The Merge of Souls

[RodrigoAltaf]

Fear of the Squats...fear of the squaaaats...I have a constant fear of fatness settling in!!!!

 Sorry, that was awful, but that was all I could come up with for the time being.

[TAC]

A Matter Of Life And Breasts

[Max Kuehnau]

The Cl_i_ _ _ _ _ _t (that probably was awful as well)

[wolfking]

This is something I never would have seen Bruce doing.  Has never seemed like that kind of guy.

[Max Kuehnau]

This is something I never would have seen Bruce doing.  Has never seemed like that kind of guy.

he's a rockstar though (I guess that's what we can call him ? They do that kind of thing, don't they? Some of them do anyway. I'm not too surprised.)

[MirrorMask]

This is something I never would have seen Bruce doing.  Has never seemed like that kind of guy.

Same here. I know I idolize him, but... come on, it's not just fanboyism, it's a fact that he's talented at many things and that he's a singer pilot writer businessman and all around great intelligent guy. We don't know what was his life with his wife and he has a dick too in the end but I thought that if someone could escape the "aging famous person goes after the younger bimbo", that would be him.

The cancer ordeal must have had some collateral effect in his outlook on life or whatever, dunno.

[wolfking]

This is something I never would have seen Bruce doing.  Has never seemed like that kind of guy.

Same here. I know I idolize him, but... come on, it's not just fanboyism, it's a fact that he's talented at many things and that he's a singer pilot writer businessman and all around great intelligent guy. We don't know what was his life with his wife and he has a dick too in the end but I thought that if someone could escape the "aging famous person goes after the younger bimbo", that would be him.

The cancer ordeal must have had some collateral effect in his outlook on life or whatever, dunno.

Agree mate.  He's probably my number one idol and yeah maybe I'm naive but I thought he'd be the one to never go that path too.  It just seems strange and leaves a bit of a bitter taste at the moment.  As you say, we don't know the situation, I'm sure there's much more behind it.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Maybe we shouldn't look that much into it other than they've grown away from eachother which is pretty normal these days especially when you don't have kids that live at home anymore which I just assume according to their ages. Lots of couples stick around for their kids and when their gone they realise there's nothing really left so they split up. With all the tours and projects that Bruce are involved in I assume he's not at home very much either and that can play apart in it.

So Bruce being single and a multi millionare flying all over the world, I think it's not too suprising he's in a face and living it so to speak. 

[cramx3]

This is something I never would have seen Bruce doing.  Has never seemed like that kind of guy.

Same here. I know I idolize him, but... come on, it's not just fanboyism, it's a fact that he's talented at many things and that he's a singer pilot writer businessman and all around great intelligent guy. We don't know what was his life with his wife and he has a dick too in the end but I thought that if someone could escape the "aging famous person goes after the younger bimbo", that would be him.

The cancer ordeal must have had some collateral effect in his outlook on life or whatever, dunno.

Agree mate.  He's probably my number one idol and yeah maybe I'm naive but I thought he'd be the one to never go that path too.  It just seems strange and leaves a bit of a bitter taste at the moment.  As you say, we don't know the situation, I'm sure there's much more behind it.

Yea, I'm with you guys that I find it a bit surprising but at the same time, it's really not.  It seemed like he's been "dating" this girl for awhile while still being married and so far haven't even started a divorce process.  This may be some situation where there isn't a "ill will" if you may say and that people have simply grown apart.  And yea, I could imagine staring at death with cancer could change how you view your life.

[Stadler]

I have to be honest; some of you are my friends and I respect you but I'm flat out BAFFLED by some of these comments.

Marriages fail.  They just do.   As I read it, the marriage fell apart before he took up with this woman.

And after you get over, I'd say, 35 or so, years just don't matter that much.  He's 61 that means she's 46; that's no spring chicken. 

As for the "boobs" and "superfan" stuff, that just seems like sensationalist journalism.  I don't think he has any more or less integrity if he dates a flat-chested skank with no musical knowledge (sorry, I don't mean to be crass, just making a point).

[TAC]

I'm not a Bruce guy. Never have been.

Me, I'm just goofing.


But I think a lot of people really respect Bruce, and I think would be disappointed if something happened to him, where maybe because he was a rock star, it's assumed he's at fault.

[wolfking]

I have to be honest; some of you are my friends and I respect you but I'm flat out BAFFLED by some of these comments.

Marriages fail.  They just do.   As I read it, the marriage fell apart before he took up with this woman.

And after you get over, I'd say, 35 or so, years just don't matter that much.  He's 61 that means she's 46; that's no spring chicken. 

As for the "boobs" and "superfan" stuff, that just seems like sensationalist journalism.  I don't think he has any more or less integrity if he dates a flat-chested skank with no musical knowledge (sorry, I don't mean to be crass, just making a point).

In retrospect, you're right.  No offence taken Bill.  I missed that they broke up before he hooked up with her.  I guess no one really has the right to be judgemental without knowing the story.  Just hopefully there is nothing more behind it and his ex tries to come out and talk shit or whatever.

[cramx3]

I have to be honest; some of you are my friends and I respect you but I'm flat out BAFFLED by some of these comments.

Marriages fail.  They just do.   As I read it, the marriage fell apart before he took up with this woman.

And after you get over, I'd say, 35 or so, years just don't matter that much.  He's 61 that means she's 46; that's no spring chicken. 

As for the "boobs" and "superfan" stuff, that just seems like sensationalist journalism.  I don't think he has any more or less integrity if he dates a flat-chested skank with no musical knowledge (sorry, I don't mean to be crass, just making a point).

In retrospect, you're right.  No offence taken Bill.  I missed that they broke up before he hooked up with her.  I guess no one really has the right to be judgemental without knowing the story.  Just hopefully there is nothing more behind it and his ex tries to come out and talk shit or whatever.

Oh Stads is totally right, but it just seems like you picture someone one way and it turns out they aren't.  I don't think Bruce banging a chick is really surprising in anyway, but the band just seems so private that I wouldn't expect someone, or Bruce specifically, to get romantically involved with a fan.  But, that could be sensational journalism.  Who knows.  If Bruce is happy then all is good though.

[Setlist Scotty]

I likewise was surprised to read this news and was a bit disappointed by it. But yeah, we don't know the whole story, nor will we probably ever find out, although I wouldn't be surprised if he is questioned about it when he does his speaking engagements. I guess the thing that makes it especially seem improper is that I've read that his soon-to-be ex-wife supported him throughout his whole cancer ordeal. So for him to split with her and pursue a relationship with some younger blond "superfan" that looks like a Kardashian wanna-be just doesn't seem right. Honestly not trying to judge him considering we don't know any of the facts other than what's in the news, but it doesn't put him in a good light.

[TAC]

In reading about Rik Ocasek, didn't he and his wife split after he battled cancer too?

[Stadler]

Yep; they remained friends, though.  (I read she was the one that found him.)

You can connect the dots in a way that says the same thing about Eddie VH (he first had his tongue cancer thing in 2000, declared cancer free in 2002, and they divorced in 2007 after being separated for four years.   2007 - 4 = 2003.)

[Stadler]

I likewise was surprised to read this news and was a bit disappointed by it. But yeah, we don't know the whole story, nor will we probably ever find out, although I wouldn't be surprised if he is questioned about it when he does his speaking engagements. I guess the thing that makes it especially seem improper is that I've read that his soon-to-be ex-wife supported him throughout his whole cancer ordeal. So for him to split with her and pursue a relationship with some younger blond "superfan" that looks like a Kardashian wanna-be just doesn't seem right. Honestly not trying to judge him considering we don't know any of the facts other than what's in the news, but it doesn't put him in a good light.

But again, "younger blonde 'superfan'" just smacks of tabloid journalism.  There's nothing in that phrase that gives us any indication of ANYTHING to do with their relationship.   My wife is seven years younger than me, and blonde.  Did I marry a "younger blonde 'superfan'" too?   

[Setlist Scotty]

I likewise was surprised to read this news and was a bit disappointed by it. But yeah, we don't know the whole story, nor will we probably ever find out, although I wouldn't be surprised if he is questioned about it when he does his speaking engagements. I guess the thing that makes it especially seem improper is that I've read that his soon-to-be ex-wife supported him throughout his whole cancer ordeal. So for him to split with her and pursue a relationship with some younger blond "superfan" that looks like a Kardashian wanna-be just doesn't seem right. Honestly not trying to judge him considering we don't know any of the facts other than what's in the news, but it doesn't put him in a good light.

But again, "younger blonde 'superfan'" just smacks of tabloid journalism.  There's nothing in that phrase that gives us any indication of ANYTHING to do with their relationship.   My wife is seven years younger than me, and blonde.  Did I marry a "younger blonde 'superfan'" too?   

Feel free to ignore the "superfan" word from my post because quite frankly it wouldn't change my thoughts on the situation one way or the other.

[wolfking]

I likewise was surprised to read this news and was a bit disappointed by it. But yeah, we don't know the whole story, nor will we probably ever find out, although I wouldn't be surprised if he is questioned about it when he does his speaking engagements. I guess the thing that makes it especially seem improper is that I've read that his soon-to-be ex-wife supported him throughout his whole cancer ordeal. So for him to split with her and pursue a relationship with some younger blond "superfan" that looks like a Kardashian wanna-be just doesn't seem right. Honestly not trying to judge him considering we don't know any of the facts other than what's in the news, but it doesn't put him in a good light.

But again, "younger blonde 'superfan'" just smacks of tabloid journalism.  There's nothing in that phrase that gives us any indication of ANYTHING to do with their relationship.   My wife is seven years younger than me, and blonde.  Did I marry a "younger blonde 'superfan'" too?   

Well, you would think she would have to like you in some capacity to marry you.

[MirrorMask]

To steer back towards the music a bit, I had a wacky idea: that the Legacy of the Beast tour is Maiden's farewell tour... without it being an actual farewell, or even being billed as such.

This late in their carrer, this is the first nostalgia tour done basically for the sake of it (yeah, the video game, I know), so it has all the hallmarks of a farewell tour. But rather than being billed as such, with the inevitable and clichè backtracking of "no we never meant to retire", they don't even bother with billing it as such and they just gor for it, all guns blazing, with a kickass setlist and stage show.

I see it as a "just in case" tour, if something bad happens, this is it, and it was a blast, ending on top. If they (as they seem to hint) do another album and another tour it's fine, but this tour serves as a nice memory of what it was like to see Iron Maiden even if it's not the actual end.

[TAC]

There's strong rumors that the next album is already in the can.

[wolfking]

There's strong rumors that the next album is already in the can.

Unreal if true.  Are they from half reliable sources?

[TAC]

https://forum.maidenfans.com/threads/iron-maiden-studio-album-17-rumours-and-speculations.65206/

[wolfking]

https://forum.maidenfans.com/threads/iron-maiden-studio-album-17-rumours-and-speculations.65206/

Nice.  The one post a couple of pages from the end is pretty damning.

[Stadler]

There's strong rumors that the next album is already in the can.

Unreal if true.  Are they from half reliable sources?

I've heard this too.   

And I'll note that they've done this before, alternating between "album" tours and "legacy" tours.   

The Ed Hunter Tour - - - The Brave New World Tour
The "Give Em Ed" Tour - - - The Dance Of Death Tour
The "Eddie Rips It Up" Tour - - - The Matter Of Life And Death Tour
The Somewhere Back In Time Tour - - - The Final Frontier Tour
The Maiden England Tour - - - The Book Of Souls Tour
The Legacy Of The Beast Tour - - -

[Setlist Scotty]

There's strong rumors that the next album is already in the can.

Unreal if true.  Are they from half reliable sources?

I've heard this too.   

And I'll note that they've done this before, alternating between "album" tours and "legacy" tours.   

The Ed Hunter Tour - - - The Brave New World Tour
The "Give Em Ed" Tour - - - The Dance Of Death Tour
The "Eddie Rips It Up" Tour - - - The Matter Of Life And Death Tour
The Somewhere Back In Time Tour - - - The Final Frontier Tour
The Maiden England Tour - - - The Book Of Souls Tour
The Legacy Of The Beast Tour - - -

That was my first thought - since the reunion they've been ping ponging back and forth. So I wouldn't expect this current tour to be the end of it all unless something unplanned, unexpected and extremely serious happened.

[MirrorMask]

So I wouldn't expect this current tour to be the end of it all unless something unplanned, unexpected and extremely serious happened.

Indeed. That's why I said that I see it as a "just-in-case farewell tour without being announced as such", which is more enjoyable without the gimmick of "last time ever to see the band, this is the end oh wait nevermind we come back next year with an even higher price because THAT will be the end, pinky swear!"

[MirrorMask]

Tour dates announced all over the world!  (well, the rest of the world that wasn't touched this year)

May 2020
01  Perth, AUSTRALIA – RAC Arena, Special Guests: (Killswitch Engage)
03  Adelaide, AUSTRALIA – Entertainment Centre (Killswitch Engage)
05  Brisbane, AUSTRALIA – Entertainment Centre (Killswitch Engage)
07  Sydney, AUSTRALIA – Qudos Bank Arena (Killswitch Engage)
11  Melbourne, AUSTRALIA – Rod Laver Arena (Killswitch Engage)
13  Auckland, NEW ZEALAND – Spark Arena (Killswitch Engage)
16  Manila, PHILIPPINES - Pulp Summer Slam ^
19  Tokyo, JAPAN – Pia Arena MM
20  Tokyo, JAPAN – Pia Arena MM
22  Osaka, JAPAN - Venue to be announced
27  Dubai, UAE – Coca-Cola Arena
30  Tel Aviv, ISRAEL – Bloomfield Stadium (Orphaned Land)

June 2020
05 – 07  Tampere, FINLAND – Rockfest ^
09  Bremen, GERMANY – Buergerweide (Disturbed & Airbourne)
10  Cologne, GERMANY – Rhein-Energie-Stadium (Airbourne & Lord of the Lost)
13  Donington, UK – Download Festival ^
15  Belfast, UK – Belsonic Festival ^
18  Dessel, BELGIUM – Graspop Festival ^
20  Copenhagen, DENMARK – Copenhell Festival ^
23  Berlin, GERMANY – Waldbuehne (Airbourne & Lord of the Lost)
25  Oslo, NORWAY – Tons of Rock Festival ^
27  Gothenburg, SWEDEN – Ullevi Stadium (Alter Bridge & Airbourne)
30  St Petersburg, RUSSIA – Ice Palace (Airbourne)

July 2020
02  Moscow, RUSSIA – VTB Arena – Dynamo Central Stadium (Airbourne)
05  Warsaw, POLAND – PGE Narodowy (Within Temptation & Lord of the Lost)
07  Prague, Czech Republic – Sinobo Stadium (Airbourne & Lord of the Lost)
09  Weert, HOLLAND –  Evenemententerrein (Alter Bridge & Airbourne)
11  Paris, FRANCE – Paris La Defense Arena (Airbourne & Avatar)
16  Wiener, AUSTRIA – Neustadt Stadium (Airbourne & Lord of the Lost)
18  Stuttgart, GERMANY – Mercedes-Benz Arena (Airbourne & Lord of the Lost)
20  Bologna, ITALY – Sonic Park (Airbourne & Lord of the Lost)
23  Lisbon, PORTUGAL – Estadio Nacional (Within Temptation & Airbourne)
25  Barcelona, SPAIN – Olympic Stadium (Within Temptation & Airbourne)

^ = Festivals

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Wow, didn't expect that! I guess that's a sign I have to see them on this leg.

Gothenburg 2020!

[MirrorMask]

They play in Italy as well. 200 KM away from where I live. On a monday. In full holiday season at work where we're understaffed.

It's not unconceivable for me to obtain anyway at least half a day off, but I was thinking just for the hell of it a road trip to places where they play on a saturday, and believe me, I've already checked 

Sweden is too far away but damn if I didn't wish for once to experience what it's like to see a Maiden concert among a fuckton of crazy scandinavian Maiden fans 

[MoraWintersoul]

crazy scandinavian Maiden fans 

Scandinavian fans aren't crazy  maybe for Maiden it's a bit different, but I'd be surprised. You're not missing out on much 

[MirrorMask]

Well, they always seem to consider the scandinavian gigs some of the best things ever happened to them in life.

And they tour constantly Italy so they're used to amazing crowds 

[MoraWintersoul]

Well, they always seem to consider the scandinavian gigs some of the best things ever happened to them in life.

Cool, so now we know they're going senile 

I mean... not to rag on Scandinavia much, there's probably a lot of great IM fans around here, but a band that's experienced thousands upon thousands of screaming Iron Maiden fans in Brazil must be kidding when they say Scandi gigs are their favorite.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Well, they always seem to consider the scandinavian gigs some of the best things ever happened to them in life.

Cool, so now we know they're going senile 

I mean... not to rag on Scandinavia much, there's probably a lot of great IM fans around here, but a band that's experienced thousands upon thousands of screaming Iron Maiden fans in Brazil must be kidding when they say Scandi gigs are their favorite.

Maiden have alot of support in Sweden compare to other Nordic countries I think. There was a resurgent during the 00s when they sold out stadiums in Gothenburg which I think took them by suprise.

Maiden got also alot of mainstream publicity in Sweden at that time, heck Nicko even became friend with a very beloved TV personality called Lasse Berhagen to the point they played golf together. 

[El Barto]

That Cologne date is a mighty tempting target.