The Iron Maiden Thread v. The Merge of Souls

[Ruba]

Nicko is revealing the upcoming setlist the only way he could 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcnGjqdeTA

  I do enjoy Nicko's thick Cockney accent anytime.

If any of you guys and gals reading this has never listened to Listen With Nicko skits that were included in The First Ten Years-set (can be easily found in YouTube), go check them out. I heartily recommend them.

E: Watching the first part and Nicko talks about opening the set with an up-tempo song... Why didn't you bloody do it on The Final Frontier tour then you sods? I remember the show I saw, they played UFO's Doctor Doctor as last song before they went on stage and I was all giddy... and then started a four-minute video set to Satellite 15 which pretty much killed the mood there and then. Also, while The Final Frontier is a decent song, that's hardly a worthy set opener for a band that has songs like Prowler, Aces High, Moonchild and Be Quick Or Be Dead in their repertoire.

[Stadler]

"A CD!  We're gonna put it on a CD!"

[425]

E: Watching the first part and Nicko talks about opening the set with an up-tempo song... Why didn't you bloody do it on The Final Frontier tour then you sods? I remember the show I saw, they played UFO's Doctor Doctor as last song before they went on stage and I was all giddy... and then started a four-minute video set to Satellite 15 which pretty much killed the mood there and then. Also, while The Final Frontier is a decent song, that's hardly a worthy set opener for a band that has songs like Prowler, Aces High, Moonchild and Be Quick Or Be Dead in their repertoire.

Strongly, strongly, strongly disagree on this one. Satellite 15 is a great piece and the hype of it as a build-up to open the concert was really stunning to me.

[Ruba]

E: Watching the first part and Nicko talks about opening the set with an up-tempo song... Why didn't you bloody do it on The Final Frontier tour then you sods? I remember the show I saw, they played UFO's Doctor Doctor as last song before they went on stage and I was all giddy... and then started a four-minute video set to Satellite 15 which pretty much killed the mood there and then. Also, while The Final Frontier is a decent song, that's hardly a worthy set opener for a band that has songs like Prowler, Aces High, Moonchild and Be Quick Or Be Dead in their repertoire.

Strongly, strongly, strongly disagree on this one. Satellite 15 is a great piece and the hype of it as a build-up to open the concert was really stunning to me.

Of course, if you liked it more power to you.  To me, it was a let down.

[cramx3]

E: Watching the first part and Nicko talks about opening the set with an up-tempo song... Why didn't you bloody do it on The Final Frontier tour then you sods? I remember the show I saw, they played UFO's Doctor Doctor as last song before they went on stage and I was all giddy... and then started a four-minute video set to Satellite 15 which pretty much killed the mood there and then. Also, while The Final Frontier is a decent song, that's hardly a worthy set opener for a band that has songs like Prowler, Aces High, Moonchild and Be Quick Or Be Dead in their repertoire.

Strongly, strongly, strongly disagree on this one. Satellite 15 is a great piece and the hype of it as a build-up to open the concert was really stunning to me.

I'm with Ruba, I really enjoy TFF as a song, but it's probably the worst opener IM have ever had.  It's just too low energy for them.

[The Walrus]

Is there any indication at all of a new album being in the works? Who knows how much more time Maiden has. I just want one more album - with GOOD production - before they call it a day.

[cramx3]

Is there any indication at all of a new album being in the works? Who knows how much more time Maiden has. I just want one more album - with GOOD production - before they call it a day.

None really from the band but there's been rumors they've already recorded it.  But that's just rumors, who knows.  They managed to keep TBoS pretty hush hush for awhile too so I'm hopeful but who knows. 

[Ruba]

Is there any indication at all of a new album being in the works? Who knows how much more time Maiden has. I just want one more album - with GOOD production - before they call it a day.

I doubt they'd be kicking Kevin Shirley out. The last Iron Maiden album with good production was Fear of the Dark. Could they please goad Martin Birch out of retirement?

[TAC]

Is there any indication at all of a new album being in the works? Who knows how much more time Maiden has. I just want one more album - with GOOD production - before they call it a day.

There's a whole thread on the Maidenfans forum dedicated to it. Lots of useless posts, but they are clueing together Instagram posts and stuff to piece together the recording times and place.

[The Walrus]

Is there any indication at all of a new album being in the works? Who knows how much more time Maiden has. I just want one more album - with GOOD production - before they call it a day.

There's a whole thread on the Maidenfans forum dedicated to it. Lots of useless posts, but they are clueing together Instagram posts and stuff to piece together the recording times and place.

heretodaygonetohell.com is like that for GnR. But it's much more "hey here's a crumb let's analyze it for the next 5 years until another crumb comes along" 

[jammindude]

Hey bosk! Even Steve Harris disagrees with you. 

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/iron-maiden-grammy-win/

[bosk1]

Hey bosk! Even Steve Harris disagrees with you. 

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/iron-maiden-grammy-win/

Then Steve Harris is a tool.  The next time he thinks about forming an opinion, he should consult me first.

[MirrorMask]

At least it's a nice call back to when they got the #1 single in the UK with Bring your Daughter to the Slaughter, "cheating" by releasing multiple versions on Xmas Eve 

[jammindude]

Hey bosk! Even Steve Harris disagrees with you. 

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/iron-maiden-grammy-win/

Then Steve Harris is a tool.  The next time he thinks about forming an opinion, he should consult me first.

 


I love you, man. This cracked me up.

For the record, I don’t get the hate for El Dorado either. TFF is a fantastic top to bottom reunion album, and ED is great single.

[TAC]

So here's my take on El Dorado.

I feel like El Dorado would've made a better second track on The Book Of Souls, and Speed Of Light would've made a better second track on The Final Frontier.

I feel that each songs' themes fit better with the other album.

[jammindude]

So here's my take on El Dorado.

I feel like El Dorado would've made a better second track on The Book Of Souls, and Speed Of Light would've made a better second track on The Final Frontier.

I feel that each songs' themes fit better with the other album.

This is actually an excellent point!

[TAC]

Actually? 



I made that point when The Book Of Souls came out a couple times, but was roundly ignored.

[wolfking]

El Dorado is the worst Iron Maiden song.

[jammindude]

Actually? 



I made that point when The Book Of Souls came out a couple times, but was roundly ignored.

Well, I never saw it, and I'm agreeing with it now. 

[Cool Chris]

I remember liking El Dorado when it dropped but didn't take to TFF too highly, and still don't listen to it hardly ever. So I never thought about it possibly being better placed on Book of Souls. Will consider that next time I listen. 

[TAC]

So not to overtake Kev's Classic albums thread with a Thin Lizzy/Iron Maiden discussion, I'm reposting this here..

Any suggestions for Thin Lizzy songs that have sparkles of what Iron Maiden would later be inspired from? I know that they were a huge influence for Maiden, so I'd be interested to know if there are songs that would make you think "Ah, yeah, I guess this is what inspired Iron Maiden". (I did listen to some stuff here and there and off the top of my head Emerald is a great song, but I wanted to see if there's some consensus about which songs more represent what Iron Maiden got inspired from).

So considering Steve Harris turned 14 in 1970, you'd have to think he was inspired by the early Eric Bell Era albums. Even though there was only one guitarist on these first three albums, there are a number of songs that have pretty interesting arrangements likeThe Rise And Fall Of The Funky Nomadic Tribes, not that this will make you think of Iron Maiden, but it's a cool arrangement for a 1972 song. Knowing Steve was also influenced by Yes, Jethro Tull, and Wishbone Ash, song arrangements seemed to be something that interested him.

And Gonna Creep Up On You (not a great song by any stretch..) starts out with some serious bass. I mean Steve Harris played basically the same bass guitar as Lynott.

Now I wouldn't start anyone on Thin Lizzy on their first three albums. But once Scott Gorham and Brian Robertson joined the band, there developed a harmonized two guitar style that is Thin Lizzy's greatest gift to Iron Maiden.

That classic era included Fighting (1975), Jailbreak and Johnnie The Fox (both 1976) and Bad Reputation (1977).

No song really screams IRON MAIDEN to me.

Obviously, there's Massacre which Iron Maiden actually covered.

You mentioned Emerald, which would be the first Thin Lizzy song I would play for an Iron Maiden fan wanting to dive into Thin Lizzy.

I think Steve Harris would have generally been influenced by Thin Lizzy's storytelling and imagination. Again, the musical component was the twin guitar harmonies.


I'm not sure what Nicko's influences are. Pretty sure he was already professionally playing in the mid 70's, but I always found that the drumming to Opium Trail reminds me of Nicko.

[MirrorMask]

Yay, thanks a lot! 

[goo-goo]

Setlist "Spoilers" from the 1st night.



01. Aces High
02. Where Eagles Dare
03. 2 Minutes To Midnight
04. The Clansman
05. The Trooper
06. Revelations
07. For The Greater Good Of God
08. The Wicker Man
09. Sign Of The Cross
10. Flight Of Icarus
11. Fear Of The Dark
12. The Number Of The Beast
13. Iron Maiden

Encore:

14. The Evil That Men Do
15. Hallowed Be They Name
16. Run To The Hills

[MirrorMask]

No song dropped for Wrathwchild 

[bosk1]

Other than the length (seems short), that's a great set.

[cramx3]

No song dropped for Wrathwchild 

  

Next week is Maiden week for me, back to back nights in Brooklyn again.

Speaking of.... I have an extra ticket for the July 27th show at Barclays center, first row seat above the floor.  I can't sell it according to ticket master and none of my friends bit on it, so if someone wants the ticket, please shoot me a message.  I am able to transfer it on ticketmaster.

[Mladen]

No song dropped for Wrathwchild 

Holy shit, you're right! 

In terms of length, this is a regular set for them, around 100 minutes. That's what they've been doing at least for the last 10 years since I've been following them.

[425]

No song dropped for Wrathwchild 

Yep, thrilled to see the setlist made it completely intact, complete with a whole lot of my favorite songs. Honestly, this is maybe their best setlist since they just plopped the full AMOLAD into the first set.

Just 2 months away for me!

[bosk1]

In terms of length, this is a regular set for them, around 100 minutes. That's what they've been doing at least for the last 10 years since I've been following them.

Yeah, I guess you're right.  I think they've sometimes gone just a bit over that, but not by a lot.  I was also just looking at the number of songs.  But they've got a couple of longer ones in there, so that makes the set longer than it looks just going off the number.

[MirrorMask]

Indeed, three songs alone (Clansman, Greater Good and Sign of the Cross) make up for 30 minutes of showtime.

[cramx3]

Indeed, three songs alone (Clansman, Greater Good and Sign of the Cross) make up for 30 minutes of showtime.

I'm not sure which of these three I'm looking forward to the most.  Probably Sign if I had to choose, but this is the meat of the set for me.

[Anguyen92]

Yep, this will please me nicely when they come to LA.  I don't know what my expectations are when it comes to the set of the tour when it started (because I know they were going to perform tremendously).  I was just hoping for a few songs in the modern reunion era and they got some fine picks that I want to see, especially For the Greater Good of God.

[bosk1]

Man, I am REALLY tempted to go see them.  I still have never done so.  But it also really is not in the budget.  Hmm...

[nobloodyname]

Man, I am REALLY tempted to go see them.  I still have never done so.  But it also really is not in the budget.  Hmm...

You live once. Do it

[cramx3]

Man, I am REALLY tempted to go see them.  I still have never done so.  But it also really is not in the budget.  Hmm...

Your opportunities are getting less and less, I don't expect a few of these songs to ever get played again.  Or you could just fly to NYC next weekend and Ill give you my extra ticket.