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Re: The Iron Maiden Thread v. The Merge of Souls
« Reply #3395 on: June 03, 2018, 02:11:20 PM »
Ehh..I've already seen To Tame A Land live.  ;D ;D
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« Reply #3396 on: June 03, 2018, 02:28:19 PM »
Ehh..I've already seen To Tame A Land live.  ;D ;D
It's unusual that I get to call somebody a cunt in this context, but you now qualify.

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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #3397 on: June 03, 2018, 08:41:14 PM »
Technically, I think that makes me one too; it was the 10th song of the set when I saw them in October of '83 on the "World Piece" tour.  Thanks, setlist.fm!

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« Reply #3398 on: June 04, 2018, 07:15:07 AM »
So cool seeing the plane moving forward over the first row:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhczyUE3tig
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« Reply #3400 on: June 04, 2018, 03:30:32 PM »
Love this video of Icarus. Great presentation. Bruce has a flamethrower!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPPvLUiGTGc
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« Reply #3401 on: June 18, 2018, 12:32:33 PM »
I played World of Tanks but not World of Warplanes, might have too check this out.

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Wargaming ó the company behind free-to-play titles World Of Tanks (2010), World Of Warplanes (2013) and World Of Warships (2015) ó has announced that IRON MAIDEN frontman Bruce Dickinson will host 10 online educational warplanes diaries. Launching today, this free-to-view series is set to be released weekly on the World Of Warplanes official portal and YouTube channel across June, July and August, alongside an exclusive World Of Warplanes video tribute to the classic IRON MAIDEN song "Aces High".
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« Reply #3402 on: June 18, 2018, 06:56:53 PM »
Love this video of Icarus. Great presentation. Bruce has a flamethrower!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPPvLUiGTGc

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« Reply #3403 on: June 27, 2018, 12:32:30 PM »
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IRON Maiden are being sued for more than £2million for allegedly stealing some of their biggest-selling songs.
A High Court writ says the metal band ripped off lyrics in six tracks.
Ex-singer Dennis Willcock says he wrote five and musician Terry Wilson-Slesser claims his lyrics for 70s group Beckett were used on a sixth.
Named defendants are Maidenís chief songwriter and bass player Steve Harris, guitarist Dave Murray and their publishing company Imagem.
Willcock quit the group in 1978 before they began recording seriously and later got a job in advertising.
He claims he turned his back on music and never knew his lyrics were used because he never listened to Maidenís albums.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6634750/iron-maiden-lyric-law-suit-investigation/

Here we go again.
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« Reply #3404 on: June 27, 2018, 12:35:30 PM »
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IRON Maiden are being sued for more than £2million for allegedly stealing some of their biggest-selling songs.
A High Court writ says the metal band ripped off lyrics in six tracks.
Ex-singer Dennis Willcock says he wrote five and musician Terry Wilson-Slesser claims his lyrics for 70s group Beckett were used on a sixth.
Named defendants are Maidenís chief songwriter and bass player Steve Harris, guitarist Dave Murray and their publishing company Imagem.
Willcock quit the group in 1978 before they began recording seriously and later got a job in advertising.
He claims he turned his back on music and never knew his lyrics were used because he never listened to Maidenís albums.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6634750/iron-maiden-lyric-law-suit-investigation/

Here we go again.

This is different from the lawsuit they just settled?  Or is this a money grab now because someone knows IM settled and maybe they think they can get a settlement?

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Re: The Iron Maiden Thread v. The Merge of Souls
« Reply #3405 on: June 27, 2018, 12:37:42 PM »
Where has all this been for forty years?

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« Reply #3406 on: June 27, 2018, 02:10:39 PM »
Where has all this been for forty years?

Yeah, I'm having a hard time believing that he completely ignored a band that he played in for that long only to discover that some of his work was used. Smells like a money grab to me.
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« Reply #3407 on: June 27, 2018, 03:55:39 PM »
Where has all this been for forty years?
Yeah, I'm having a hard time believing that he completely ignored a band that he played in for that long only to discover that some of his work was used. Smells like a money grab to me.
Definitely a money grab - in both instances. To believe that Wilcock had no clue about "his" song lyrics being used in those songs is a joke, even if he hadn't been in the band for all those years. Would be interesting to see how he proves that those are his lyrics, as opposed to Steve's, altho now that it's been established that Steve did claim other lyrics as his own, it definitely paints him as suspect.

I find it a joke that now, after the lawsuit has been settled regarding HBTN, that now yet another songwriter is just *now* speaking up and filing a separate lawsuit regarding the same song. The guy couldn't have been oblivious to the previous suit and probably held off figuring he could ring up more cash on his own, then join in the lawsuit of his former bandmate. Given that it's only a couple lines and they are not same, I'll be curious to see if this guy's lawsuit wins like his bandmate did.

That said, I think it's pathetic that Steve did essentially steal those lyrics and not give credit where credit's due. Just the same as with Led Zeppelin. Give credit where it's due. What Neil Peart did, just acknowledging Ayn Rand's influence on 2112 was the classy way to handle it. These guys should've done the same, or more.
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« Reply #3408 on: June 28, 2018, 10:50:38 AM »
it seems like stuff like this goes on much more frequently than we realize unfortunately, regardless of whether Willcock's claims are true in this particular instance.

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« Reply #3409 on: June 28, 2018, 04:02:52 PM »
If Steve Harris bothers you, you must not be a Cheap Trick fan then. 

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« Reply #3410 on: June 30, 2018, 04:43:37 AM »
It was amazing to see them in Hungary two days ago, the stage set was truly a sight to behold. Also, Sign of the cross. Nuff said.

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« Reply #3411 on: July 10, 2018, 12:10:44 AM »
Incredible performance Yesterday night in Milan, Italy. Probably the best show I have attended ever.

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« Reply #3412 on: July 10, 2018, 01:40:35 AM »
Incredible performance Yesterday night in Milan, Italy. Probably the best show I have attended ever.

I was there too!!!!  :metal

Overall - I'd rank it as my third best Maiden show ever. Can't beat, also for sentimental reasons, the reunion tour in 1999, and the Somewhere Back in Time tour in 2008 when I got a chance to see - kinda - the World Slavery tour that I missed on account of being 5 years old, but this is one of the very best.

For the stage show, this was probably the best ever. They already had a fantastic show (the ramps and the backdrops and of course Eddie) but they reinvented it all and brought it to a new level, with the gigantic props like the plane for Aces High and the Icarus figure. Amazing attention to detail and theatrics, Bruce in his books talks about the "theater of the mind" for his idea of a stage show (he quoted the backdrop for Rime of the Ancient Mariner as an example) and this is the best theater they've ever put on.

For the personal viewing experience, sadly it sucked - it was a flat field, obviously more than crowded, and everyone around me is tall as me, or shorter than me, so I basically didn't see anything. I've seen the backdrops of course, and the upper part of the stage and the screens but with my own eyes I barely got a glimpse of the stage. I'm not even sure, photo camera side, if I saw with my own eyes all of the six band members. I wish this was in a closed venue where I could sit and see it all.

For those complaining about the setlist - of course everyone is entitled about their own expectations and tastes, but I'd say that Mike Portnoy spoiled you with all the amazing efforts he took in creating the setlists for DT. Iron Maiden are a traditional band that, while promoting the hell out of a new album, always played it safe and they never ever were a "let's play a b-side or a song never played live in 40 years" kind of band.

For a band that always plays the same songs, in a single show you got:
- A song that wasn't played since 2005
- A song that wasn't played since 1985
- Two songs from an era of the band that no one but the die hards care about
- The return of two classic songs in the encore that, albeit overplayed, were put aside since 5 years
- New backdrops and stage props for basically every song, even the most overplayed one which was removed from the usual and predictable place just before the last song of the main set

I mean, what more do you want? Alex the Great? Sun and Steel? Women in Uniform? they've never been that kind of band and they never will. Of course everyone is entitled, as I said, to not like this or that song but if you accept the reality of what a Maiden setlist has ALWAYS been, this setlist is beyond amazing.

I regret now not having seen them in the other italian date they had, nor having a chance to see them again in a week in north east Italy.
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