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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2170 on: June 12, 2015, 07:47:57 AM »
The general dislike for HK makes me sad, but it can never take away my love for it. I take that song as its own entity, as I have since the first time.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2171 on: June 12, 2015, 07:51:40 AM »
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Hell's Kitchen coherently goes from psychedelia to prog rock to heavy prog rock to epic prog metal in barely over four minutes.  One of the best mixed DT songs too (the bass is nice and loud).
This exactly.  It is a wonderful composition, showing many different sides of the band's personality.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2172 on: June 12, 2015, 08:00:44 AM »
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So how good is sandstorm - Darude?

No, just pls no... :tdwn
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2173 on: June 12, 2015, 08:05:02 AM »
I think what bosk points out dislikingly, i.e. the dwelling on simple note progressions, is exactly what I love about it. To some degree it's Pink Floydesque in that regard. Let the tune carry itself for a while, don't just make a hard cut to yet another theme just because you've played a certain progression twice.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2174 on: June 12, 2015, 09:44:16 AM »
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Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on June 11, 2015, 06:41:48 PM
I don't know that it's universally loved or anything, but I've honestly hardly ever seen anyone other than you express dislike for it.

I wouldn't say I dislike it.  I just don't find anything likeable about it.  It is hard for me to understand why it was released as a standalone song by a band who plays such complex music, since it just repeats the same 4 notes over and over and over for 10 minutes or however interminably long it drags on.  Yeah, that makes it easy for JP to throw down some tasty soloing over the same notes.  But I just don't need to hear a solo stretched out over the same 4 notes for so long without going anywhere. 
When I read this, I thought you were describing Stream of Consciousness (in which case I concur). But Hell's Kitchen? It's relatively short and ends where it should.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2175 on: June 12, 2015, 01:37:04 PM »
For anyone else who's attempted it, the unison section toward the end of Hell's Kitchen is super tricky to play.   This is probably where my appreciation of this song stems from.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2176 on: June 14, 2015, 06:35:41 PM »
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Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on June 11, 2015, 06:41:48 PM
I don't know that it's universally loved or anything, but I've honestly hardly ever seen anyone other than you express dislike for it.

I wouldn't say I dislike it.  I just don't find anything likeable about it.  It is hard for me to understand why it was released as a standalone song by a band who plays such complex music, since it just repeats the same 4 notes over and over and over for 10 minutes or however interminably long it drags on.  Yeah, that makes it easy for JP to throw down some tasty soloing over the same notes.  But I just don't need to hear a solo stretched out over the same 4 notes for so long without going anywhere. 
When I read this, I thought you were describing Stream of Consciousness (in which case I concur). But Hell's Kitchen? It's relatively short and ends where it should.

Now that I think about it, yeah, SOC fits that description a hell of a lot more  :lol
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2177 on: June 15, 2015, 07:52:19 AM »
Is Hell's Kitchen not a liked song generally speaking? I'm surprised. That outro is glorious and the intro is so mysterious, I love it.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2178 on: June 15, 2015, 10:34:21 AM »
That video of the band playing Hell's Kitchen with Portnoy's drums with his back to the crowd - was my first experience of any DT.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2179 on: June 15, 2015, 10:38:51 AM »
hell's kitchen is still top ten DT imo
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2180 on: June 15, 2015, 11:22:52 AM »
I would love for them to play Hell's Kitchen. It's a great instrumental.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2181 on: June 15, 2015, 07:04:00 PM »
Jordan posted this earlier today on FB

"Rehearsals have begun for the European tour. Time to sort through the gear!"




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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2182 on: June 15, 2015, 07:05:43 PM »
I like that filter.  Makes everything look cartoon-ish.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2183 on: June 15, 2015, 09:41:18 PM »
Quote from: jonnybaxy on June 12, 2015, 06:04:34 AM
So how good is sandstorm - Darude?
It's my favorite song by Sandstorm
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2184 on: June 15, 2015, 10:43:16 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2185 on: June 16, 2015, 03:25:32 AM »
I wish JR could just upload pics without drowning them in filters.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2186 on: June 16, 2015, 03:52:31 AM »
I wish JR could just upload pics without Kotowboy bitching about filters.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2187 on: June 16, 2015, 03:52:48 AM »
I hope JP starts using the Mark V's again.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2188 on: June 16, 2015, 04:11:16 AM »
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So if they're packing up / setting up for the tour - that must mean that tracking is done ?
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2189 on: June 16, 2015, 06:45:05 AM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on June 16, 2015, 04:11:16 AM
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So if they're packing up / setting up for the tour - that must mean that tracking is done ?
Not really.

It could just as easily mean that they are done for now, and will resume after the tour.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2190 on: June 16, 2015, 06:50:44 AM »
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So if they're packing up / setting up for the tour - that must mean that tracking is done ?
Not really.

It could just as easily mean that they are done for now, and will resume after the tour.

That's what I'd guess. Especially since they won't play any new songs, according to JP.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2191 on: June 16, 2015, 07:01:44 AM »
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Not really.

It could just as easily mean that they are done for now, and will resume after the tour.

That's what I'd guess. Especially since they won't play any new songs, according to JP.

I wonder if they booked this tour with the hope that they would have had a new song ready for performance, but things didn't go to plan. Idk.

Considering DT are one of the quicker studio-to-release bands out there, maybe they're just taking more time and care with this one. Trying to break out of the "studio-January-release-September" cycle that's been the case for the last two albums.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2192 on: June 16, 2015, 07:03:17 AM »
You'll at least want the drums done so they sound consistent throughout the album.

Unless Mangini has more than one of his kit. One for studio. One for live ?
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2193 on: June 16, 2015, 07:23:50 AM »
I suspect they are fully done, and they delay is purely due to timing. They don't want to mix album/single release with touring, and so they just let the material sit until the summer is over.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2194 on: June 16, 2015, 08:37:44 AM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on June 16, 2015, 07:03:17 AM
You'll at least want the drums done so they sound consistent throughout the album.

Unless Mangini has more than one of his kit. One for studio. One for live ?

Why would the drums not sound consistent if you'd use them on the road? It's not that he keeps the same skins for years and years.
Apart from that, I think Mangini (or the company he gets his drums from) has plenty of his drums. I don't think you could count it in terms of kits, but my guess is that he could get spare drums whenever he wants to.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2195 on: June 16, 2015, 08:48:04 AM »
It's probably more with regards to set-up in the studio rather than the drums themselves, mic placement, etc etc. For consistency it's best to set up and leave it, changing a mic just a little bit can drastically change the sound.

I doubt they would tear down in the middle of drum tracking. Mangini may have a 2nd kit for live use, but even then, they'd be paying for studio time all summer when they're not there. Doesn't make sense.

I'm going to guess that they've wrapped drums already, and are ready to record the rest when they get back.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2196 on: June 16, 2015, 08:54:49 AM »
The drum tracks are usually one of the first things done when recording, so I expect that's done. They've probably at least got all of the basic tracks done at this point, and are probably working on solos, additional tracks, and lyrics/vocals.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2197 on: June 16, 2015, 09:17:28 AM »
Quote from: genome on June 16, 2015, 08:48:04 AM
It's probably more with regards to set-up in the studio rather than the drums themselves, mic placement, etc etc. For consistency it's best to set up and leave it, changing a mic just a little bit can drastically change the sound.

Yes that.

it's why you normally find a great live room for the drums and you can record guitar amps anywhere and they'll sound the same.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2198 on: June 17, 2015, 05:11:46 AM »
Exclusive look at Dream Theater's preparation for the summer tour!

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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2199 on: June 17, 2015, 05:17:31 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2200 on: June 17, 2015, 06:05:32 AM »
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What a funny contraption. It looks like they're turning right into the crowd of people at the end.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2201 on: June 17, 2015, 06:06:40 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2202 on: June 17, 2015, 06:08:30 AM »
Looks more like The Geoff Tate band on tour.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2203 on: June 17, 2015, 06:09:05 AM »
So that guy with the sax indicates they will be playing Another Day.
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Re: Dream Theater was allegedly in the Studio February - To Be Continued
« Reply #2204 on: June 17, 2015, 06:10:40 AM »
He played in... Spyro Gyra right?
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