Dream Theater entered the studio in February v. No News is Good News

[jakepriest]

As far as I know "kot" is cat in Polish. "kočka" in Czech but that's just a fun trivia.

[rumborak]

Well, to be fair, Polish is the hardest, most complex language on Earth .

I can probably say I've heard that statement being said about every major language in this world.
It's not just about the language you're learning; it's equally as much about the language you're coming from. German with its three genders and four different cases must be hell for a Chinese speaker. For a Dutch person it would just be a shoulder shrug.

[Nihil-Morari]

Du hast recht. Deutsch ist nicht ganz schwer um zu lernen. Verstehen ist ganz einfach, aber schreiben ein bisschen mehr nachdenken. Dankeschön.

[RodrigoAltaf]

Tranquilo amigão!!!

[CharlesPL]

Mieli dzieci: Jachce z Cepką mieli Szacha, Jachce Drachce z Cepką Drepką mieli Szacha Szarszaracha, Jachce Drachce Drachcedroni z Cepką Drepką Rompomponi mieli Szacha Szarszaracha Fudżi Fajkę. Kto powtórzy całą bajkę?

[NotePad]

Trust me, this album will be like BC&SL part 2. They will not repeat the shorter song thing two times in a row. This album will have the longest, most drawn out songs they will ever do. This album will break the world record for having the worlds longest keyboard solo.

"After crafting these shorter songs, we really want to let loose on our next record. If a song starts sounding too catchy or memorable, that's when we know to let Jordan loose so he can do his thing and add some dynamic to it. I've always said every good song needs to be ruined by a goofy sounding keyboard solo that sounds nothing like the rest of the song. Really lets the song have breathing room......and expect more of the same as recent years from James because I've always thought he sounded best when he sings like a fag."
- John Petrucci, 2015 interview

[rumborak]

Du hast recht. Deutsch ist nicht ganz schwer um zu lernen. Verstehen ist ganz einfach, aber schreiben ein bisschen mehr nachdenken. Dankeschön.

I can't write Dutch (we just never had to learn it in school) but reading it is pretty straightforward. It's mostly just funky spelling.

[BlackInk]

I don't particularily like JLB's stuff on the latest album either, but there's no need to be a dick about it.

[Kotowboy]

inb4

[Nihil-Morari]

Du hast recht. Deutsch ist nicht ganz schwer um zu lernen. Verstehen ist ganz einfach, aber schreiben ein bisschen mehr nachdenken. Dankeschön.

I can't write Dutch (we just never had to learn it in school) but reading it is pretty straightforward. It's mostly just funky spelling.

Yeah the other way around is exactly that. When you pretend to speak German, you're accidentally speaking it.

[me7]

Was this page copy-and-pasted from fiveeightforums?

[XJDenton]

"... Really lets the song have breathing room......and expect more of the same as recent years from James because I've always thought he sounded best when he sings like a fag."

May I remind you of rule 5:

5. Keep your language reasonable. Repeated and inappropriate usage of explicit language is forbidden. Violators will be warned before any serious action is taken. No racially offensive posts. No posts that are derogatory toward gender or sexual preference. No posts that use slang terms for any race, sexual preference, or religious background. Includes signatures.

Consider this a warning.

[SuperTaco]

...My vision is augmented.

That is all

[ErHaO]

I thought JLB on the last album was pretty great, I thought that was the popular opinion?

Well, to be fair, Polish is the hardest, most complex language on Earth .

I can probably say I've heard that statement being said about every major language in this world.
It's not just about the language you're learning; it's equally as much about the language you're coming from. German with its three genders and four different cases must be hell for a Chinese speaker. For a Dutch person it would just be a shoulder shrug.

Totally offtopic, but this is not entirely true. Some languages are fairly scientific and thus can be learned quite efficiently by knowing the basic set of rules. A 26-letter alphabet with generally clear rules of pronounciation and grammar is way less complex than Mandarin, with it's vast  amount of characters and information gap between writing and pronouncing, for example.

Offcourse German and English are very easy for a Dutch person like me (and vice versa to some extent) compared to Spanish. But languages do vary a lot in terms of complexity. So there is merit to some people saying their language is difficult.

[hefdaddy42]

Offcourse German and English are very easy for a Dutch person like me (and vice versa to some extent) compared to Spanish. But languages do vary a lot in terms of complexity. So there is merit to some people saying their language is difficult.

I would think that Spanish would be easier than English, because at least the rules and letter pronunciations are consistent in Spanish.  There are no silent "K"s in Spanish, and there is no "i before e except after c" rule.  Likewise, in Spanish there is no ridiculousness like rough not rhyming with bough, or owl not rhyming with bowl.

[Zydar]

So.... how about them Dream Theater, huh? I hear they're in the studio making something?

[Nihil-Morari]

I've heard they'll enter the studio next februari.

[Sycsa]

Offcourse German and English are very easy for a Dutch person like me (and vice versa to some extent) compared to Spanish. But languages do vary a lot in terms of complexity. So there is merit to some people saying their language is difficult.

I would think that Spanish would be easier than English, because at least the rules and letter pronunciations are consistent in Spanish.  There are no silent "K"s in Spanish, and there is no "i before e except after c" rule.  Likewise, in Spanish there is no ridiculousness like rough not rhyming with bough, or owl not rhyming with bowl.

I don't think the spelling inconsistencies are that hard to master. You learn the words anyway, you see them written down a couple of times and there, they're memorized. Having grammatical genders and difficult conjugation (which is by far the easiest in the English language) makes Spanish and other Romance languages harder to learn, imo.

[BlobVanDam]

We're discussing learning languages in the thread about DT's new album. This is what happens when we don't get any news.

[BlackInk]

I thought JLB on the last album was pretty great, I thought that was the popular opinion?

I think it is. It's just not my opinion. He was loads better on ADToE, or he at least knew his limitations better then.

[rumborak]

I thought JLB on the last album was pretty great, I thought that was the popular opinion?

Well, to be fair, Polish is the hardest, most complex language on Earth .

I can probably say I've heard that statement being said about every major language in this world.
It's not just about the language you're learning; it's equally as much about the language you're coming from. German with its three genders and four different cases must be hell for a Chinese speaker. For a Dutch person it would just be a shoulder shrug.

Totally offtopic, but this is not entirely true. Some languages are fairly scientific and thus can be learned quite efficiently by knowing the basic set of rules. A 26-letter alphabet with generally clear rules of pronounciation and grammar is way less complex than Mandarin, with it's vast  amount of characters and information gap between writing and pronouncing, for example.

Yes, but the grammar of Mandarin, to my understanding, is very simplistic. There is no "the horses will have jumped tomorrow". It's just "two horse jump maybe tomorrow".
English, supposedly an "easy" language to learn, is only easy in its grammar. It dropped the genders and cases. But the vocabulary, which is a mix of old Germanic, old Norse, French and Latin, alongside with the different spellings due to that, is a disaster.

The general point is, any civilized country has a language that is complex enough to encode the subtleties of that society. The languages just plug that complexity into different spots. German has a lot of it in the grammar, English in the vocabulary.

EDIT: More on the topic, check out page 40 of this paper: https://www.ddl.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/fulltext/pellegrino/Pellegrino_to%20appear_Language.pdf
With the exception of Japanese, all the languages there have essentially the same information flow. That information needs to be communicated somehow. Each language does it in a different way, but as a language learner, you will have to learn that.

We're discussing learning languages in the thread about DT's new album. This is what happens when we don't get any news.

Seriously

[JediKnight1969]

I've heard they'll enter the studio next february.

  8 more months...

[goo-goo]

I thought JLB on the last album was pretty great, I thought that was the popular opinion?

I think it is. It's just not my opinion. He was loads better on ADToE, or he at least knew his limitations better then.

But he shines even more on Frameshift, or even JLB's last couple of solo album. I still think DT under utilizes him in the vocal department.

I also agree with ErHao: James definitely sounded and sang better on ADTOE. He seemed to sing with more melody instead of just "reciting" lines like on most of DT12. At least that's my impression.

[Bertielee]

I thought JLB on the last album was pretty great, I thought that was the popular opinion?

I think it is. It's just not my opinion. He was loads better on ADToE, or he at least knew his limitations better then.

Apart on IT, I don't see where he exceeds his limitations. Plus, I find him safer on DT 12 than on ADToE. Opinions vary.

B.Lee

[hefdaddy42]

I thought JLB on the last album was pretty great, I thought that was the popular opinion?

I think it is. It's just not my opinion. He was loads better on ADToE, or he at least knew his limitations better then.

But he shines even more on Frameshift, or even JLB's last couple of solo album. I still think DT under utilizes him in the vocal department.

One thing you have to remember is that DT has to utilize him in such a way that what he does on the album can be recreated live. That's not something he has to worry about on side projects (at least, not anywhere near the same extent).

[rumborak]

Not that I will repeat the f** word here, but I think I know what he is referring to, and I too find it somewhat unfortunate when he sings that way. I realize it's supposed to be a more intimate, softer type of singing, but it does indeed go into rather unfortunate territory when he sings that way.

[goo-goo]

I thought JLB on the last album was pretty great, I thought that was the popular opinion?

I think it is. It's just not my opinion. He was loads better on ADToE, or he at least knew his limitations better then.

But he shines even more on Frameshift, or even JLB's last couple of solo album. I still think DT under utilizes him in the vocal department.

One thing you have to remember is that DT has to utilize him in such a way that what he does on the album can be recreated live. That's not something he has to worry about on side projects (at least, not anywhere near the same extent).

Well James did take his solo material on the road and that worked pretty well. At least for the couple of bootlegs that I heard...

[SuperTaco]

Not that I will repeat the f** word here, but I think I know what he is referring to, and I too find it somewhat unfortunate when he sings that way. I realize it's supposed to be a more intimate, softer type of singing, but it does indeed go into rather unfortunate territory when he sings that way.

I'm pretty happy to say that I've never thought this about JLB's vocals, ever. It seems immature to even respond to NotePad when he's clearly flaming. He got warned and that's all the attention he should get, but hey.. If you feel the same way..

[rumborak]

Is a point immediately invalid just because the way it was delivered?

i can definitely say that when I first heard the ending of Through Her Eyes, I had a *very* raised eyebrow.

[BlackInk]

I don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, but I really like that part.

[bosk1]

Rumborak just has overactive eyebrows.

[King Postwhore]

Rumborak just has overactive eyebrows.

That's his Internet twitch.

[rumborak]

Rumborak just has overactive eyebrows.

[goo-goo]

Rumborak just has overactive eyebrows.

LOL

[bosk1]

The one you had originally was FAR less creepy.