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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #700 on: February 23, 2015, 12:10:21 PM »
Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
If they do decide to do another concept album, I'm sure it will be great, but I hope they don't do Metropolis Pt. 3 because Part 2 is already perfect.

Well, I do agree with you on that.

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Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.

I wouldn't call it "fact". In my opinion, third one isn't even getting close to the brilliance of first two.

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #701 on: February 23, 2015, 12:12:46 PM »
I don't see a full blown Met3 concept album, but I can a song that in some way would keep the story alive or end it.  Would be especially nice if it weren't blatantly obvious and then DTF could argue for ages to come over what it meant and whether it was indeed Met3.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #702 on: February 23, 2015, 02:19:52 PM »
Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.
Given the law of averages, I knew that it was inevitable that SOMEONE would have this opinion.  I just never saw it expressed before.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #703 on: February 23, 2015, 02:30:40 PM »
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Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.
Given the law of averages, I knew that it was inevitable that SOMEONE would have this opinion.  I just never saw it expressed before.

I almost typed the same response myself.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #704 on: February 23, 2015, 03:55:29 PM »
Quote from: AngelBack on February 23, 2015, 12:12:46 PM
I don't see a full blown Met3 concept album, but I can a song that in some way would keep the story alive or end it.  Would be especially nice if it weren't blatantly obvious and then DTF could argue for ages to come over what it meant and whether it was indeed Met3.
They could write a new album using the same structures as the songs on SFAM without telling anyone and let DTF endlessly debate it.  :biggrin:
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #705 on: February 23, 2015, 06:57:55 PM »
Quote from: Mosh on February 23, 2015, 03:55:29 PM
They could write a new album using the same structures as the songs on SFAM without telling anyone and let DTF endlessly debate it.  :biggrin:

But they have not copied FII yet! :biggrin:
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #706 on: February 24, 2015, 09:59:09 AM »
So... at least Jordan is in the studio now: https://www.facebook.com/jordanrudessofficial/photos/a.10151821986107989.1073741826.8717682988/10152773698542989/?type=1

Reportedly JP said the European summer shows will be the only touring they do this year, so maybe they'll finish work on the album after the summer dates and release it closer to the end of the year like they did with TOT in 2003?
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #707 on: February 24, 2015, 10:06:07 AM »
Jordan's got a problem with free image editing apps.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #708 on: February 24, 2015, 11:26:46 AM »
Quote from: ? on February 24, 2015, 09:59:09 AM
So... at least Jordan is in the studio now: https://www.facebook.com/jordanrudessofficial/photos/a.10151821986107989.1073741826.8717682988/10152773698542989/?type=1

Reportedly JP said the European summer shows will be the only touring they do this year, so maybe they'll finish work on the album after the summer dates and release it closer to the end of the year like they did with TOT in 2003?

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 02:17:24 PM
Yes, that's true. 

Interestingly enough, it is beginning to sound more and more like DT will only be doing the summer European festival circuit this year.  That is kind of interesting news.  That means that they may not have an artificially imposed deadline to finish the new album - they will write/record for a few months, then get ready for the live shows, play them, and then they could come back and finish up the album.

The quote here from Hef came from the "That Metal Show" thread.

I like the idea that they're not rushing to finish.  I know some people were concerned about that.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #709 on: February 24, 2015, 11:27:47 AM »
Quote from: ? on February 24, 2015, 09:59:09 AM
Reportedly JP said the European summer shows will be the only touring they do this year, so maybe they'll finish work on the album after the summer dates and release it closer to the end of the year like they did with TOT in 2003?
That would be great, they could indulge in it as much as they want, they don't need to hurry.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #710 on: February 24, 2015, 12:24:00 PM »
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 02:19:52 PM
Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.
Given the law of averages, I knew that it was inevitable that SOMEONE would have this opinion.  I just never saw it expressed before.


100 million monkeys x 100 million typewriters x 100 million years = "Hamlet" ?   :P   ;)
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #711 on: February 24, 2015, 12:31:19 PM »
I don't think it is quite that drastic.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #712 on: February 24, 2015, 12:35:49 PM »
That Jordan's picture is hurting my brains. :puke:
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #714 on: February 24, 2015, 09:04:16 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #715 on: February 25, 2015, 12:43:36 AM »
Quote from: Randaran on February 23, 2015, 06:57:55 PM
Quote from: Mosh on February 23, 2015, 03:55:29 PM
They could write a new album using the same structures as the songs on SFAM without telling anyone and let DTF endlessly debate it.  :biggrin:

But they have not copied FII yet! :biggrin:

If that means having another song that is Peruvian Skies 2, I approve!

Also, it's my first time to watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdBeeph0aFM
I did not know that they already did Peruvian Skies with Mangini!
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #716 on: February 25, 2015, 01:42:36 AM »
Quote from: erwinrafael on February 25, 2015, 12:43:36 AM

If that means having another song that is Peruvian Skies 2, I approve!


..but they already did it with Endless Sacrifice!!!  :P
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #717 on: February 25, 2015, 03:43:36 AM »
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Quote from: erwinrafael on February 25, 2015, 12:43:36 AM

If that means having another song that is Peruvian Skies 2, I approve!


..but they already did it with Endless Sacrifice!!!  :P

You have a point.  :lol
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #718 on: February 25, 2015, 03:48:45 AM »
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Jordan's got a problem with free image editing apps.

 ::) Seriously. It's like he's got this image of being a wizard and a master of technology so he can't just post a pic without fucking it up.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #719 on: February 25, 2015, 04:17:04 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #720 on: February 25, 2015, 04:46:31 AM »
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Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on February 23, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
Except for the fact that The Unforgiven III is the best of the trilogy.
Given the law of averages, I knew that it was inevitable that SOMEONE would have this opinion.  I just never saw it expressed before.

I almost typed the same response myself.

Unforgiven III is dreadful. They should have binned it and replaced it with one of the Beyond Magnetic songs.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #721 on: February 25, 2015, 09:02:07 AM »
I like Unforgiven III. Though it's probably not quite as good as the other two.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #722 on: February 25, 2015, 09:10:51 AM »
I've never even heard it.  Should I even bother?  I thought Unforgiven II was terrible.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #723 on: February 25, 2015, 09:20:29 AM »
I don't mind Unforgiven III. But it is also not a song that I'd listen to outside of the context of the album.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #724 on: February 25, 2015, 09:54:50 AM »
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I've never even heard it.  Should I even bother? 
No.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #725 on: February 25, 2015, 10:33:40 AM »
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Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 24, 2015, 10:06:07 AM
Jordan's got a problem with free image editing apps.

 ::) Seriously. It's like he's got this image of being a wizard and a master of technology so he can't just post a pic without fucking it up.

He has to or we'll transcribe the new music in the background and release it before the album  :biggrin:
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #726 on: February 25, 2015, 02:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 04:46:31 AM
Unforgiven III is dreadful. They should have binned it and replaced it with one of the Beyond Magnetic songs.

Though the song itself is not that great, it had the best solo on the album. Though that is not an impressive accomplishment, considering how most of them are terrible.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #727 on: February 25, 2015, 04:30:52 PM »
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Quote from: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 04:46:31 AM
Unforgiven III is dreadful. They should have binned it and replaced it with one of the Beyond Magnetic songs.

Though the song itself is not that great, it had the best solo on the album. Though that is not an impressive accomplishment, considering how most of them are terrible.

I love all 3 of those songs. I read that TU3 was the only song that James was fighting for to have a place on the album, cuz he wanted to complete the trilogy and it's personal to him.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #728 on: February 25, 2015, 04:32:27 PM »
See, I never understood the hate for Unforgiven III. It's not as good as I, but it's a solid addition to the trilogy.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #729 on: February 25, 2015, 04:41:22 PM »
Quote from: 425 on February 25, 2015, 04:32:27 PM
See, I never understood the hate for Unforgiven III. It's not as good as I, but it's a solid addition to the trilogy.

Thank you, glad someone else thinks this! ;D
I completely agree. I think they're all not too bad in their own right. Maybe they're all just living in the shadow of the first one and you probably can't beat the nostalgic associations and the reputation of the first one; but the second and third are still solid tracks in their own regard. Not to mention the Unforgiven series can be a nice change of pace for Metallica.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #730 on: February 25, 2015, 05:20:04 PM »
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Quote from: 425 on February 25, 2015, 04:32:27 PM
See, I never understood the hate for Unforgiven III. It's not as good as I, but it's a solid addition to the trilogy.

Thank you, glad someone else thinks this! ;D
I completely agree. I think they're all not too bad in their own right. Maybe they're all just living in the shadow of the first one and you probably can't beat the nostalgic associations and the reputation of the first one; but the second and third are still solid tracks in their own regard. Not to mention the Unforgiven series can be a nice change of pace for Metallica.

I like Unforgiven III as well. It's definitely in top half and one of the more interesting tracks of Death Magnetic for me.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #731 on: February 25, 2015, 06:15:45 PM »
:emo: Unforgiven II is actually my favourite.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #732 on: February 25, 2015, 11:48:28 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 06:15:45 PM
:emo: Unforgiven II is actually my favourite.

Mine too. :hifive:
I recall Hetfield has said Unforgiven 3 shouldn't have been named Unforgiven, and it was an afterthought to do so. I think it would also be a huge mistake for DT to do a Metropolis pt 3. I don't know why either discussion has come up.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #733 on: February 26, 2015, 12:25:05 AM »
Because there's little to no news yet and everyone's bored. :lol
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #734 on: February 26, 2015, 12:41:37 AM »
Blob does have a point though.  We resorted to talking about crappy Metallica songs.   Why don't we try and figure out how many songs are going to be on the album or how many instrumentals, if any?  Will there be a John Myung lyric again?  Will there be more Jordan on the CD?
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