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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2015, 03:40:17 PM »
Yeah. I also don't think James has the delivery of really heavy stuff.

Probably my biggest wish is a less brickwalled sound.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2015, 04:54:50 PM »
Just please don't call it 13, XIII or some bullshit like that. :lol

Hey I think they could pull off a XIII at this point.  It's the number that transcends the Octavarium and could tie into a mini concept of sorts. :P

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2015, 05:15:43 PM »
Well, the album title template is

"A <conjunctive phrase> B" (I and W, F into I, AC of S, S from a M, T of T, SD of IT, BC and SL, ADT of E)

so that might be a likely indicator for the next album title.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2015, 05:24:36 PM »
So I guess the real question; is it be gonna something and something. Something from something else, or something of this other something. Ya know, we haven't had something into something for a while.

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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2015, 05:30:52 PM »
So I guess the real question; is it be gonna something and something. Something from something else, or something of this other something. Ya know, we haven't had something into something for a while.

I'd like to see a "_____ or _____" title. Maybe a concept album based on "You Or Me"? :lol

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2015, 05:31:01 PM »
What about "Something from Nothing"? You heard it here first.
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« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2015, 05:39:55 PM »
What about "Something from Nothing"? You heard it here first.

Then, people are going to think that it's something to do with Foo Fighters (I know it's not that fancy of a title, but people misinterpret stuff easily).

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2015, 05:44:51 PM »
Yeah. I also don't think James has the delivery of really heavy stuff.

But he can do Awake vocals again. So more of that Mirror/Lie/Scarred/CIAW sound again, please? ;)

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2015, 05:47:23 PM »
Illumination Theory is great and The Bigger Picture is quite frankly one of the best DT songs ever written.  Along for the Ride is beautiful.  But not much else really grabbed me. 

If they can come out with an album jam packed with amazing songs, I will be ecstatic. 

If they come out with another album with 3 amazing songs (that equal over 30 minutes total) I will be very happy.  Either way I am psyched for this album. 

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2015, 05:48:27 PM »
I am kinda partial to th1rt3en myself.
Oh, the horror! In that case, I'll insist on calling it thonertthreeen...eh, like calling Scre4m, Scre-four-em.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2015, 06:04:06 PM »
8 + 5 = 13... OC2VARIUM

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I just hope for a focus on strong melodies - it worked for them last time around! I don't care if it's a concept album or not, I just want some kickass prog and I know that if anyone's gonna deliver, it'll be DT.

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2015, 06:32:16 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2015, 06:36:37 PM »
It literally seems like yesterday DT12 came out.

How many unique studio albums has Metallica put out in the past oh... 23 years, in comparison to Dream Theater?

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2015, 06:44:46 PM »
Yeah. I also don't think James has the delivery of really heavy stuff.

But he can do Awake vocals again. So more of that Mirror/Lie/Scarred/CIAW sound again, please? ;)

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2015, 06:47:49 PM »
Yeah, the studio videos from DT12 were pretty generic and gave us really nothing, except a chocolate cake joke. And then there are bands like Periphery, who's studio updates are really hilarious and informative at the same time, with some teasers of new stuff. I hope they do something more in that vein.

I don't want anything leading up to the release bar a few pics. I want a 90 minute making of DVD *with* the album.

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2015, 06:50:12 PM »
And dear GOD - you have to nail the production this time.

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2015, 06:55:01 PM »
How many unique studio albums has Metallica put out in the past oh... 23 years, in comparison to Dream Theater?

Lulu? :laugh: About as "unique" as it gets really.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2015, 06:57:31 PM »
Yeah, the studio videos from DT12 were pretty generic and gave us really nothing, except a chocolate cake joke. And then there are bands like Periphery, who's studio updates are really hilarious and informative at the same time, with some teasers of new stuff. I hope they do something more in that vein.

I don't want anything leading up to the release bar a few pics. I want a 90 minute making of DVD *with* the album.

You could just not follow it, if you want to avoid it, and they can still do a doco with the album with all of the cool stuff they wouldn't/couldn't have shown before the album is released. I loved the SC documentary, so I'd love to see them do one of those again. That would be a big selling point for a SE for me!

I sorely miss having updates during the process. It makes the wait so much easier, and builds more excitement.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2015, 06:58:34 PM »
Yayyyy!!!!!

I'd like to see an album similar to BCASL, but with one or two more songs. I really liked that album, and the fact that only two songs on it were shorter than ten minutes. But I'll be fine with whatever they come out with, as long as the guitar sounds better than I thought it did on DT12.

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2015, 07:02:11 PM »
It literally seems like yesterday DT12 came out.

How many unique studio albums has Metallica put out in the past oh... 23 years, in comparison to Dream Theater?

Metallica - 1991
Load - 1995
Reload - 1996
St. Anger - 2003
Death Magnetic - 2008

Hasn't DT released like 11 albums in that time ? Probably 12 by the time 2015 is over.

And nobody can play the "Quality not quantity" card since St. Anger and Death Magnetic are hardly quality albums...

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2015, 07:10:08 PM »
Metallica - 1991
Load - 1995
Reload - 1996
St. Anger - 2003
Death Magnetic - 2008

They've almost come to stand still at this point.
- 4 albums in the 80s
- 3 albums in the 90s
- 2 albums in the 00s
- 1 album within the last 10 years
- 0 albums this decade and we're halfway through it.

DT:
- 1 album on the arse end the 80s
- 4 albums in the 90s
- 5 albums in the 00s
- 3 at least this decade. With the potential for 4 or 5 if they continue the way they are.

DT are consistent, you gotta give 'em that. Easy to take for granted.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2015, 07:28:37 PM »
Well, yeah, but the good thing about Metallica's post-'90s output is...um...well, you see, it's...lemme get back to you.  :justjen
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2015, 07:42:38 PM »
This is all fine and dandy, but I want to know when the heck the second John Petrucci solo album is going to drop!

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2015, 08:17:39 PM »
I think MM's drums are WAY too low and did JMX even record bass? Who mixed this album anyway??.....a high school music student? James can't hit that E any longer  and The lyrics are..... Oh wait...


















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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2015, 10:32:19 PM »
Well, yeah, but the good thing about Metallica's post-'90s output is...um...well, you see, it's...lemme get back to you.  :justjen

Death Magnetic kicks ass. I don't get why everyone hates it.

As for Dream Theater, I was kind of hoping they would do some more touring this year, but I'm always excited for new DT music.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2015, 11:20:55 PM »
8 + 5 = 13... OC2VARIUM

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I just hope for a focus on strong melodies - it worked for them last time around! I don't care if it's a concept album or not, I just want some kickass prog and I know that if anyone's gonna deliver, it'll be DT.

Actually...now that you mention it, their 5th album was a narrative concept album while their 8th was a musically-based thematic concept (octaves, roots, rising keys along the F-minor scale, using negative-tracked sound for the non-key notes, etc. etc.). So maybe....JUST MAYBE... their 13th album will be a sort of concept album?!? Hmmmm....

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2015, 11:25:51 PM »
I'm really not sure why people always clamor for DT to make concept albums. They made one, and the concept was easily the weakest part of the album.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2015, 11:32:23 PM »
Well DT have always been good with recurring musical/lyrical themes in their music, whether a concept album or not. Metropolis was cool because there was a bit more of that and even if the lyrical concept wasn't that strong, the way it was supported by the music and how the songs all flowed together was very special. Seems to make sense that people would like it if DT tread those waters again.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2015, 11:34:54 PM »
Sweet. I hope this one is super heavy. I'm still waiting for Train of Thought pt. 2.
I would like that.  I think it's time for this type of album.
As in DT12 wasn't heavy enough?

This. Please, can we have a mix that doesn't emphasize JP quite so much and doesn't make every song sound heavy?

That's why the number one item on my DT13 wish list is Jordan Rudess. I want to hear much more Jordan on this album, and not just backing choruses and playing keyboard solos. I want to hear his influence in creating atmosphere and character throughout the entire album. DT12 had Jordan's signature on Illumination Theory and Behind the Veil; I'd like to hear it on every song of DT13.

I would also love for them to go a little outside the box. Not too much, if they don't want to, but maybe as much as they did on Octavarium. I would be interested to hear them pursue the electronic angle they hinted at on ADTOE with BMUBMD and Outcry. Do I expect them to do these things? No, I expect to hear another fairly safe, DT-style prog metal album in the vein of ADTOE and DT12, because I think that's what they're pretty content to do. I'm sure if they do that it will be a good album, and I'll buy it regardless, but I would really like to hear something a little bit outside of the box they've been in on the past couple of albums.

Other wish list item: I want to be able to hear John sing backup on the album. That's a big thing I miss from the SFAM-BCSL albums.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2015, 11:40:41 PM »
i wish the album this time can transform their old style a little bit, maybe some acoustic song, not too heavy.

The music has better to bear a concrete meaning, a significance, better to tell a story, not necessary to be a long concept album, but like metroplis part 1. the album needs to be refreshing to the listeners.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2015, 12:04:24 AM »
I'm really not sure why people always clamor for DT to make concept albums. They made one, and the concept was easily the weakest part of the album.

I'm one of the last people who really wants another concept album (I'm not a prog fan, so it doesn't give me a prog-boner), and I agree that the lyrical concept was a weak point, but the musical ties on the album, and the variety given by the shorter songs making up part of a greater whole helped make that such a good album imo, and it's my #2 DT album.
So I'd say there's plenty of appeal to that approach, even if the lyrical concept is nothing special. Plus the change in approach may elevate the songwriting and give some better results.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2015, 02:36:02 AM »
8 + 5 = 13... OC2VARIUM

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I just hope for a focus on strong melodies - it worked for them last time around! I don't care if it's a concept album or not, I just want some kickass prog and I know that if anyone's gonna deliver, it'll be DT.

Actually...now that you mention it, their 5th album was a narrative concept album while their 8th was a musically-based thematic concept (octaves, roots, rising keys along the F-minor scale, using negative-tracked sound for the non-key notes, etc. etc.). So maybe....JUST MAYBE... their 13th album will be a sort of concept album?!? Hmmmm....

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While a concept album is of course possible, I can't imagine them doing something as intricate as Octavarium again without MP.

And dear GOD - you have to nail the production this time.
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2015, 04:35:57 AM »
I'm in the production boat. IAW, Awake and FII are the only DT albums where the production matches the musicianship.

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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2015, 06:37:32 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater in the Studio February
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2015, 06:59:02 AM »
Sweet. I hope this one is super heavy. I'm still waiting for Train of Thought pt. 2.

This! Me too man. I never listen to ADTOE or DT12, so I really want something more on the heavy side. I wasn't interested at all in see the DT 12 tour, but a heavy new CD will chage that on the next tour.
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