Author Topic: Metallica Thread (Read 178459 times)

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1190 on:** January 19, 2021, 01:11:40 PM »

Hearing Hip To Be Square made me add it to my " Pop Drumming " Playlist on Spotify along with " The Power Of Love ".

Good god. Both are epic fun to drum to. Groovy as hell and impossible not to grin like a lunatic.

.

I much prefer drumming to a song with a PHAT groove than shredding to Meshuggah or something at 240BPM....

Here's my Pop Drumming playlist if anyone is interested :

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6SHYobQC8dFCGfFDsw37hs?si=-Mub8LdiQO2JNDPIJfN7Qg

wolfking · « **Reply #1191 on:** January 20, 2021, 04:37:47 AM »

Quote from: kirksnosehair on January 18, 2021, 01:44:41 PM

THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING

Sensational.

The added in Tipton solo was incredible.

dparrott · « **Reply #1192 on:** January 20, 2021, 11:32:34 AM »

All of the mashups of that dude are genius!

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1193 on:** February 08, 2021, 07:43:49 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k4b6Vh6JOc&ab_channel=TheLateShowwithStephenColbert

Enter Sandman live on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.

James sounding GOOD !

His voice is really good for someone who is 58 this year.

Mladen · « **Reply #1194 on:** February 08, 2021, 07:45:49 AM »

Yep, that was pretty damn good.

ReaperKK · « **Reply #1195 on:** February 08, 2021, 09:44:52 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Kf8BN6DD4&feature=emb_logo pretty good cover of enter sandman in the vain of southern metal

Adami · « **Reply #1196 on:** February 08, 2021, 09:48:30 AM »

Quote from: ReaperKK on February 08, 2021, 09:44:52 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Kf8BN6DD4&feature=emb_logo pretty good cover of enter sandman in the vain of southern metal

So...Load and Reload?

ReaperKK · « **Reply #1197 on:** February 08, 2021, 10:53:17 AM »

As a matter of fact, yes

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #1198 on:** February 08, 2021, 11:12:11 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 08, 2021, 07:43:49 AM

His voice is really good for someone who is 58 this year.

You say that as if 58 is old

I never wanted to be 56....until I was 55

Stadler · « **Reply #1199 on:** February 08, 2021, 12:30:37 PM »

I'm a fan, but Metallica isn't my favorite band of all time. But James Hetfield may be the coolest guy in rock over the last twenty years or so. Even now - he looks like Johnny Fucking Carson - he's still cooler than anyone else in the room.

TAC · « **Reply #1200 on:** February 08, 2021, 12:48:04 PM »

Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2021, 12:30:37 PM

I'm a fan, but Metallica isn't my favorite band of all time. But James Hetfield may be the coolest guy in rock over the last twenty years or so. Even now - he looks like Johnny Fucking Carson - he's still cooler than anyone else in the room.

He does!

James is amazing!

DTA · « **Reply #1201 on:** February 08, 2021, 02:52:50 PM »

Great performance, though Lars accenting the snare hits on the hi-hat is absolutely killing the drummer in me.

Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2021, 12:30:37 PM

I'm a fan, but Metallica isn't my favorite band of all time. But James Hetfield may be the coolest guy in rock over the last twenty years or so. Even now - he looks like Johnny Fucking Carson - he's still cooler than anyone else in the room.

James is an insanely talented individual and I really appreciate the fact that he's obviously taken steps to prolong his ability to perform for many years to come. He sounded incredible

Stadler · « **Reply #1202 on:** February 08, 2021, 03:00:45 PM »

Lars looks like Bun E. Carlos with those sticks, though.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1203 on:** February 09, 2021, 08:52:19 AM »

James has obviously and admittedly had help with his voice. He's not shy to admit he's had lessons / coaching.

I see Mustaine, however as being way too proud to ever take coaching or lessons or if he has - ever admit to it.

Despite having one of the worst voices in metal.

When I hear Mustaine singing - I always think - how does LaBrie get ALL the hate and Mustaine get NONE ?

Seriously - you just have to mention Dream Theater and everyone around goes LOL LABRIE.

mention Megadeth and nobody ever mentions how awful Mustaine's voice is.

I have the Big 4 in Sofia DVD and Mustaine sounds dreadful, screechy and straining on there - and apparently that's the OVERDUBBED vocals.

Zantera · « **Reply #1204 on:** February 09, 2021, 11:53:42 AM »

I have a different experience where you can't hear Megadeth without the first thing being "Mustaine's singing though..."

Guess it depends on who you talk to but I thought it was pretty much universally agreed almost that Mustaine (at least nowadays) is the weak point of Megadeth

Stadler · « **Reply #1205 on:** February 09, 2021, 12:16:49 PM »

I wrote about this in the LaBrie discussion (re: the comparisons with Dickinson). I think we're past the point of "admitting" things. I don't blame James at all; he's got a multi-million dollar organization - as well as his passion and perhaps emotional well-being - tied to the ability of his voice to sustain the rigors of being a major stadium touring act. I think instead of admitting to getting help, the "cowardice" should be about NOT admitting to getting help.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1206 on:** February 09, 2021, 12:20:43 PM »

It's weird though. If your guitar is out of tune - you tune it.

if the drum skin is slack - you tighten it.

Yet vocalists are supposed to be 100% all the time and can never admit to having help ?

Why not ? The voice is also an instrument which needs adjustment.

EDIT

Here's a thought though - people who cannot sing and are as good as tone deaf can be taught to sing great. Why can't singers who are past their best

be taught how to sing again ? Is it literally a physical thing where the voice cannot be repaired or re-trained ?

MirrorMask · « **Reply #1207 on:** February 09, 2021, 12:24:35 PM »

What you lose physically is the range, and also the shape of your body (say you become quite overweight) can affect your performance.

For the rest, you're never too old to learn how to sing better / in the proper manner.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1208 on:** February 09, 2021, 12:41:41 PM »

I know there are some singers older than labrie who can still sing like they always have.

Is James old injury stopping him from re-training or are there other factors ?

MirrorMask · « **Reply #1209 on:** February 09, 2021, 12:45:57 PM »

By 2006/7 James recovered from his injury, see the Innocence Faded high notes on Score. and the year after I heard him by myself nailing the high note of Learning to Live. Also, he never made a mystery that he was taking singing lessons and he even changed teacher at least once. I'd say that everything that happened from 2009/10 onwards has to do with him slowly ageing rather than the leftovers of the vocal chords rupturing in 1994.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1210 on:** February 09, 2021, 12:52:49 PM »

Yes. It's a shame. I remember my first experience of DT was their Master of Puppets live cover.

It was post incident AND at the end of a three + hour gig already.

No wonder he sounded bad. At the time I just assumed that was his normal singing voice.

Stadler · « **Reply #1211 on:** February 09, 2021, 02:09:26 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 09, 2021, 12:41:41 PM

I know there are some singers older than labrie who can still sing like they always have.

Is James old injury stopping him from re-training or are there other factors ?

I would go so far as to say that Mick Jagger sounds better now than he did 40 years ago.

DTA · « **Reply #1212 on:** February 09, 2021, 02:45:20 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 09, 2021, 12:41:41 PM

I know there are some singers older than labrie who can still sing like they always have.

Is James old injury stopping him from re-training or are there other factors ?

I'm not a singer and I have zero training vocally but I am a musician and can usually tell when other musicians are tense and uncomfortable just by looking at them. From the videos I've seen of him singing (mainly the Cameo things), it looks like he is straining heavily and tensing up by singing higher than his natural voice will allow. I'm sure this poor technique and long tours with 3 hour shows have caused his voice to deteriorate rapidly. Maybe I'm wrong but the strain and anguish in his face is visible when he hits any high notes and it doesn't look like a healthy way to sing.

dparrott · « **Reply #1213 on:** February 10, 2021, 01:10:59 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 09, 2021, 08:52:19 AM

When I hear Mustaine singing - I always think - how does LaBrie get ALL the hate and Mustaine get NONE ?

Seriously - you just have to mention Dream Theater and everyone around goes LOL LABRIE.

mention Megadeth and nobody ever mentions how awful Mustaine's voice is.

Good point, maybe because Dave isn't actually SINGING?

James said it best during the recording of TBA: "I actually had to SING on this one, instead of just....yelling in key."

Lonk · « **Reply #1214 on:** February 20, 2021, 12:30:20 PM »

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DoctorAction · « **Reply #1215 on:** February 21, 2021, 12:57:38 AM »

Mustaine + microphone =

Dreadful

Xanthul · « **Reply #1216 on:** February 21, 2021, 05:32:22 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 09, 2021, 08:52:19 AM

James has obviously and admittedly had help with his voice. He's not shy to admit he's had lessons / coaching.

I see Mustaine, however as being way too proud to ever take coaching or lessons or if he has - ever admit to it.

Despite having one of the worst voices in metal.

When I hear Mustaine singing - I always think - how does LaBrie get ALL the hate and Mustaine get NONE ?

Seriously - you just have to mention Dream Theater and everyone around goes LOL LABRIE.

mention Megadeth and nobody ever mentions how awful Mustaine's voice is.

I have the Big 4 in Sofia DVD and Mustaine sounds dreadful, screechy and straining on there - and apparently that's the OVERDUBBED vocals.

I have a friend who used to try to get me into Megadeth back in the day, and the vocals were always a stopper for me. A week ago I remembered this and thought I'd give it another shot now that I got into growls and black metal vocals, maybe it will be better... no, I couldn't even last through one whole song. Can't stand him.

Stadler · « **Reply #1217 on:** February 21, 2021, 07:09:36 AM »

When I plug my iPod in to certain devices, it defaults to "song list" and plays the first song. The first song, alphabetically, on my iPod is Megadeth's "À Tout Le Monde" (I put it in with the accent, even though I have the '94 version from Youthanasia). Voice or no voice, that is a great song.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1218 on:** February 21, 2021, 01:16:46 PM »

Seriously there's no contest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k4b6Vh6JOc This was Hetfield only last week.

Also - how many people have *quit* Metallica ? Cliff died and Jason left. That's literally it. Rob has been in the band for 18 years now.

How many people have quit or been fired from Megadeth ? Like 50 ?

I guess Lars isn't that hard to get along with...

I honestly think Lars has pretty much lost the ego since Some Kind Of Monster.

contest_sanity · « **Reply #1219 on:** February 26, 2021, 09:58:30 AM »

I always thought Mustaine's vocals were good on the run from Countdown through Cryptic Writings; I can't speak to what he sounds like live though.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1220 on:** February 26, 2021, 12:04:54 PM »

Quote from: contest_sanity on February 26, 2021, 09:58:30 AM

I always thought Mustaine's vocals were good on the run from Countdown through Cryptic Writings; I can't speak to what he sounds like live though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W2ZZOMD0Xk&ab_channel=kamien198

And these were (allegedly) the studio overdubbed vocals. . .

Did anyone see that Mustaine has signed with Gibson Guitars ? I don't think i've ever seen him with a Gibson ? At least not in Megadeth anyway...

425 · « **Reply #1221 on:** February 26, 2021, 02:32:14 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 21, 2021, 01:16:46 PM

Seriously there's no contest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k4b6Vh6JOc This was Hetfield only last week.

Am I the only one who finds this to be somewhat of a weird performance? I mean, no doubt James still sounds impressively good, but there's sort of a weird vibe to the whole thing. Maybe it's that they're not playing to a live audience, and Lars and Kirk are sort of acting like they are, while James and Rob aren't?

DTA · « **Reply #1222 on:** February 26, 2021, 02:58:12 PM »

Quote from: contest_sanity on February 26, 2021, 09:58:30 AM

I always thought Mustaine's vocals were good on the run from Countdown through Cryptic Writings; I can't speak to what he sounds like live though.

He absolutely killed it on Youthanasia...I think that was sort of their Black Album where they really focused on developing and strengthening his voice for the studio. I Thought I Knew It All and Addicted To Chaos are the highlights imo

Grappler · « **Reply #1223 on:** February 26, 2021, 07:09:18 PM »

Dave has a wonderful singing voice when it comes to the ballads and really melodic stuff. I've always loved how he sang on those mid-90's albums - CTE/Youth/CW.

Zook · « **Reply #1224 on:** February 27, 2021, 12:23:22 AM »

Dave may not have a traditional singing voice, and it's actually quite silly, but I've always liked it, and I'm really picky when it comes to singers.

And he did have quite a good singing voice back in the day on songs like Breadline.

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