Metallica Thread

[Adami]

You couldn’t hear the orchestra on the first S&M? It’s rather loud. If anything, the guitars are quiet.

[Herrick]

You couldn’t hear the orchestra on the first S&M? It’s rather loud. If anything, the guitars are quiet.

I'm talking about when they played at New York Shitty in 1999 with the orchestra. I really don't recall hearing it that well if at all.

The only time I listened to the live album was actually on the plane ride home (I was visiting my family for Thanksgiving break & my sister took me to the concert). On the way home, I happened to be sitting next to a dude who had the CD and he let me give it a listen.

[pg1067]

That's fucking hilarious. Who is the guy above Hopkins?

I don't know who either of the top row guys are.

[Herrick]

That's fucking hilarious. Who is the guy above Hopkins?

I don't know who either of the top row guys are.

The other guy is from that motorcycle reality show. The one about the mechanics.

[pg1067]

That's fucking hilarious. Who is the guy above Hopkins?

I don't know who either of the top row guys are.

The other guy is from that motorcycle reality show. The one about the mechanics.

Ummm....

[Zydar]

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/metallica_speaks_up_on_coronavirus_pandemic_starts_streaming_complete_live_show_from_archive_every_monday.html

"The band has launched a new online series called #MetallicaMondays, where they will stream a live show every Monday".

[TAC]

Damn, I wish I knew that last night. That Ireland show is amazing!


A very cool thing they are doing. As usual.

[Max Kuehnau]

Damn, I wish I knew that last night. That Ireland show is amazing!


A very cool thing they are doing. As usual.

you can still watch it now though, it's archived on their YT channel (as will be any show they'll stream from now on, I would guess)

[TAC]

Oh, OK, cool!

[Adami]

Yea, Metallica mondays seem like a great idea.


This might sound spoiled of me, but I hope we get a wide variety of concerts and not just from the last 5-10 years. I'd love a random 90's show or something to show up too.

[Indiscipline]

Watching right now. After all these years I tend to forget, but James has the stage presence of a mythological creature. Uncanny.

[black_biff_stadler]

I'll take pre-Load shows and very quickly pass on anything between '96 and '00.

[Adami]

I'll take pre-Load shows and very quickly pass on anything between '96 and '00.

Oh shush. The load era shows were awesome. But I’ll take all of it.

[cramx3]

I'd love to see older shows too but did they use to record everything like they do now?  I'd imagine we get shows mostly from the last few years, but would love variety.  Personally hoping for the two shows I went to for selfish reasons.

[black_biff_stadler]

I'll take pre-Load shows and very quickly pass on anything between '96 and '00.

Oh shush. The load era shows were awesome. But I’ll take all of it.

Imo, h*ck no. James' voice was close to the worst it would ever be, it was the debut of playing their 80s stuff in Eb, they were the most Load-heavy setlists we'd ever witness (understandably since it was the new album but it still is a huge drawback for me), and I'm not a drummer but it seemed like Lars began dumbing down some of his beats which has seemingly continued to this day.

[Adami]

The Eb thing doesn’t bug me. And Lars started oversimplifying his parts the first time he ever played them live.

And I like the load albums. So featuring them heavily is fine to mix in with modern sets which are mostly first 5 albums anyway. Not saying exclusively do 90s era shows, but 2-3 would be nice.

[LCArenas]

Imo, h*ck no. James' voice was close to the worst it would ever be

It depends a lot on which song he's singing. If you're talking about songs like Creeping Death well, yes, you're right. But if you're talking about Load songs he sounds incredibly good.

Also, singing a Metallica setlist must be a pain in the ass. One moment you need to sound really deep and melodic like, as in Bleeding Me, and 10 minutes later you have to be screaming your lungs out in Metal Militia. And all the things in between.

[Fritzinger]

In my opinion, James is the greatest musician in the whole band. Singing that well and playing those fast, precise riffs at the same time - the dude is unreal. I also think he is actually a better guitarist than Kirk. Although that is hard to say because James is a rhythm player, while Kirk is a soloist. But while Kirk tends to simplify and rush over his solos, James playing is still 100% precise and awesome to this day.

[ReaperKK]

The Metallica mondays thing is pretty cool. I agree that James is the greatest musician in the band, I remember going down the rabbit hole of crappy lars drum videos and came across a video of James playing drums, he was actually pretty damn good.

[fadetoblackdude7]

In my opinion, James is the greatest musician in the whole band. Singing that well and playing those fast, precise riffs at the same time - the dude is unreal. I also think he is actually a better guitarist than Kirk. Although that is hard to say because James is a rhythm player, while Kirk is a soloist. But while Kirk tends to simplify and rush over his solos, James playing is still 100% precise and awesome to this day.

This. He’s also a pretty decent drummer when he’s noodling around.

[TAC]

Watching a show on Randy Johnson on MLB right now, and it's being narrated by James Hetfield.

In the first scene, he's now a photographer taking pictures at a Rush show.

[Northern Lion]

I thought I'd chime in a little.

I agree that James' singing was not the greatest in the 90's.  I also agree that James is the greatest musician in the band and one of the greatest, if not THE greatest, metal song writers who has ever lived.  And besides the drums, he also plays the piano/keyboards.

I do have to give Lars and Kirk a little love though.  I really don't think Metallica would be Metallica without Lars.  He has a very signature and easily recognizable style.  Plus he is really good at helping James arrange the songs.  And he's even written some really good riffs that have been used in some of their songs.

Kirk may not have the technicality that has become more common in metal lead guitarists, but I really like his solo style.  It's almost like singing, but I'm not sure that's the right way to put it.  And he's written some of Metallica's best riffs.

And...  Load and Reload are awesome albums

[TAC]

You had me up until that last line.

[Northern Lion]

You had me up until that last line.

 

[Zantera]

I feel like Reload perhaps got the shaft of having the weaker batch of songs from the Load/Reload sessions (with a few good ones still) but I would consider Load to be great. It has several good singles like Until it Sleeps and King Nothing, but also it has some of their best long songs like Outlaw Torn and Bleeding Me. Would easily rank Load above Black Album for example.

[MirrorMask]

It should have been shorter and more concise, if, say, Poor Twisted Me and Cure were released as B-Sides or outtakes and taken off the album (or, dunno, Ronnie), I'm sure not many people would have said "oh Load should have had those songs".

[TAC]

It should have been shorter and more concise, if, say, Poor Twisted Me and Cure were released as B-Sides or outtakes and taken off the album (or, dunno, Ronnie), I'm sure not many people would have said "oh Load should have had those songs".

But didn't we get a whole album of outtakes?


I actually don't really have a problem with Load. There's like 3 or 4 songs I'd chop off, but I think there's a quality record in there.

But Reload? Other than Fuel, there's just nothing there.

[Adami]

ReLoad has Devil's Dance, Unforgiven II, Where the Wild Things Are, Low Man's Lyric, and Fixxxer. All fantastic songs.

[TAC]

ReLoad has Devil's Dance, Unforgiven II, Where the Wild Things Are, Low Man's Lyric, and Fixxxer. All fantastic songs.

We've had this conversation before...

[Adami]

ReLoad has Devil's Dance, Unforgiven II, Where the Wild Things Are, Low Man's Lyric, and Fixxxer. All fantastic songs.

We've had this conversation before...

Oh good, so I can assume you've seen the error of your ways and agree with me. Carry on. 

[TAC]

ReLoad has Devil's Dance, Unforgiven II, Where the Wild Things Are, Low Man's Lyric, and Fixxxer. All fantastic songs.

We've had this conversation before...

Oh good, so I can assume you've seen the error of your ways and agree with me. Carry on. 

Nope. It's called avoiding a brick wall.

[Adami]

ReLoad has Devil's Dance, Unforgiven II, Where the Wild Things Are, Low Man's Lyric, and Fixxxer. All fantastic songs.

We've had this conversation before...

Oh good, so I can assume you've seen the error of your ways and agree with me. Carry on. 

Nope. It's called avoiding a brick wall.

Alrighty. Sorry? Not a great feeling being called a brick wall, but I guess it's my cue to back off.

[TAC]

It's cool, bro. Just an expression that we will not change each other's minds on the subject.

[fadetoblackdude7]

ReLoad has Devil's Dance, Unforgiven II, Where the Wild Things Are, Low Man's Lyric, and Fixxxer. All fantastic songs.

I’m with you man, don’t forget Carpe Diem Baby!

I find myself liking both of those albums equally these days.

[black_biff_stadler]

Prince Charming is easily better than half the songs on Load too.