DT the League 2015 - Results, Standings and Discussion Thread.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 4 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43052.0

1.   The Silent Man defeats The Answer Lies Within 18-10
2.   Never Enough defeats To Live Forever 16-12
3.   Wither defeats  Along For the Ride 17-11
4.   The Looking Glass defeats  Only a Matter of Time 21-7
5.   Far From Heaven defeats Anna Lee 17-11
6.   The Killing Hand defeats False Awakening Suite 16-12
7.   As I Am defeats  Hollow Years 18-11
8.   Honor Thy Father defeats Enigma Machine 20-8
9.   New Millennium defeats A Rite of Passage 20-7
10.   Beneath the Surface defeats A Fortune in Lies 17-11
11.   Raise the Knife defeats I Walk Beside You 18-10
12.   The Dark Eternal Night defeats Just Let Me Breathe 19-9
13.   Forsaken defeats Constant Motion 15-13
14.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Ytse Jam 18-10
15.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Eve 17-12
16.   Vacant defeats Repentance 21-8


Division 3 Rankings after Week 4 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   As I Am 4-0 (+38)
2.   Honor Thy Father 4-0 (+37)
3.   The Silent Man 4-0 (+35)
4.   The Looking Glass 4-0 (+23)
5.   The Shattered Fortress 4-0 (+21)
6.   Lost Not Forgotten 3-1 (+37)
7.   Wither 3-1 (+20)
8.   Vacant 3-1 (+19)
9.   The Killing Hand 3-1 (+14)
10.   Far From Heaven 3-1 (+14)
11.   New Millennium 3-1 (+11)
12.   Beneath the Surface 3-1 (+10)
13.   Raise the Knife 3-1 (+10)
14.   I Walk Beside You 2-1-1 (+2)
15.   Hollow Years 2-2 (+7) 
16.   False Awakening Suite 2-2 (+2)
17.   Ytse Jam 2-2 (-5)
18.   Along for the Ride 2-2 (-17)
19.   To Live Forever 1-2-1 (+4)
20.   Constant Motion 1-2-1 (+1)
21.   The Answer Lies Within 1-2-1 (-8)
22.   The Dark Eternal Night 1-3 (-3)
23.   A Fortune In Lies 1-3 (-17)
24.   Forsaken 1-3 (-11)
25.   Never  Enough 1-3 (-13)
26.   Only a Matter of Time 0-3-1 (-31)
27.   Anna Lee 0-3-1 (-33)
28.   Eve 0-4 (-14) 
29.   Enigma Machine 0-4 (-21)
30.   Repentance 0-4 (-29)
31.   A Rite of Passage 0-4 (-42)
32.   Just Let Me Breathe 0-4 (-61)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 4 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43057.0


1.   The Dance of Eternity & Erotomania draw 13-13
2.   This is the Life defeats Behind the Veil 16-10
3.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Surrender to Reason 19-9
4.   Misunderstood defeats The Enemy Inside 22-7
5.   This Dying Soul defeats On the Backs of Angels 18-10
6.   These Walls defeats Innocence Faded 17-9
7.   Wait For Sleep defeats One Last Time 17-9
8.   Strange Déjà vu defeats The Root of All Evil 14-13
9.   6:00 defeats Lie 14-13
10.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Peruvian Skies 15-13
11.   Through Her Eyes defeats  Afterlife 16-10
12.   Sacrificed Sons defeats The Best of Times 24-5
13.   Surrounded defeats Outcry 19-7
14.   Caught in a Web & The Bigger Picture draw 14-14
15.   The Ministry of Lost Souls  defeats A Nightmare to Remember 15-14
16.   Another Day defeats Panic Attack 17-10


Division 2 Rankings after Week 4 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   Misunderstood 4-0 (+62)
2.   Strange déjà vu 4-0 (+48)
3.   Surrounded 4-0 (+48)
4.   Endless Sacrifice 4-0 (+28)
5.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 4-0 (+9)
6.   These Walls 3-1 (+21)
7.   The Root of All Evil 3-1 (+11) 
8.   This Dying Soul 3-1 (+11)
9.   6:00 3-1 (+8)
10.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 3-1 (+2)
11.   The Bigger Picture 2-1-1 (+12)
12.   The Dance of Eternity 2-1-1 (+9)
13.   Caught in a Web 2-1-1 (+8)
14.   Lie 2-2 (+13)     
15.   Another Day 2-2 (+8)
16.   Wait For Sleep 2-2 (+6)
17.   Peruvian Skies 2-2 (-7)
18.   Surrender to Reason 2-2 (-7)
19.   Outcry 2-2 (-10)
20.   This is the Life 2-2 (-6)
21.   Erotomania 1-2-1 (0)
22.   Sacrificed Sons 1-3 (+12) 
23.   Panic Attack 1-3 (-5)
24.   On the Backs of Angels 1-3 (-12)
25.   The Enemy Inside 1-3 (-27)
26.   Through Her Eyes 1-3 (-31)
27.   A Nightmare to Remember 0-3-1 (-8)
28.   One Last Time 0-3-1 (-36)
29.   Innocence Faded 0-4 (-24)
30.   Behind the Veil 0-4 (-26)
31.   Afterlife 0-4 (-47)
32.   The Best of Times 0-4 (-70)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 4 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43065.0

1.   #16 The Glass Prison defeats #15 Disappear 20-15
2.   #1 Breaking All Illusions defeats Stream of Consciousness  28-4
3.   #7 Voices defeats The Mirror 21-12
4.   #12. Lines in the Sand defeats Pull Me Under 25-8
5.   In the Name of God defeats The Great Debate 19-15
6.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Bridges in the Sky 18-13
7.   Take the Time defeats Fatal Tragedy 19-12
8.   #8 The Spirit Carries On defeats #11 Space-Dye Vest 20-11
9.   Illumination Theory defeats #4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 19-14
10.   #10 Metropolis defeats  Hell’s Kitchen 24-7
11.   Trial of Tears defeats Overture 1928 21-10
12.   #6  Scarred defeats Blind Faith 19-11
13.   #14 Finally Free defeats Beyond This Life 21-12
14.   #3 Octavarium defeats #13 Home 26-7
15.   #2 A Change of Seasons defeats  Under a Glass Moon 26-6
16.   . #9 Learning to Live defeats #5 The Count of Tuscany 21-11



Division 1 Rankings after Week 4 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   Breaking All Illusions 4-0 (+71)
2.   A Change of Seasons 4-0 (+50)
3.   Octavarium 4-0 (+47)
4.   Scarred 4-0 (+20) 
5.   Voices 3-0-1 (+24) 
6.   The Spirit Carries On 3-0-1 (+14)
7.   Metropolis 3-1 (+34)
8.   Learning to Live 3-1 (+28)
9.   Lines in the Sand  3-1 (+27)
10.   Finally Free 3-1 (+17)
11.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 3-1 (+15)
12.   The Count of Tuscany 3-1 (+2)
13.   The Glass Prison 2-1-1 (+5)
14.   Take the Time 2-2 (+11)   
15.   In the Name of God 2-2 (+4)
16.   Space-Dye Vest 2-2 (+2)
17.   Disappear 2-2 (0) 
18.   Illumination Theory 2-2 (-2)
19.   Home 2-2 (-10)
20.   Blind Faith 1-2-1 (-12)
21.   Trial of Tears 1-3 (-8)
22.   The Mirror 1-3 (-12)
23.   In the Presence of Enemies 1-3 (-18)
24.   The Great Debate 1-3 (-19)
25.   Stream of Consciousness 1-3 (-24)
26.   Fatal Tragedy 1-3 (-25) 
27.   Under a Glass Moon 1-3 (-37)
28.   Beyond This Life 0-4 (-23)
29.   Bridges in the Sky 0-4 (-24)
30.   Hell’s Kitchen 0-4 (-45)
31.   Overture 1928  0-4 (-41)
32.   Pull Me Under 0-4 (-61)


Week 5 starts on Monday.

[TheCountOfNYC]

The match between The Dance of Eternity and Erotomania was awesome. The lead changed quite a few times. Although I vastly prefer Dance, I'm glad they ended up tied. Those two along with Stream of Consciousness make up a kind of Big 3 of Dream Theater instrumentals.

[Dublagent66]

Don't cancel it, Doc. Let us just treat it as a controversial win with a blown call.

This

Disagree.  I don't see the point in continuing this way if we can't get accurate results.  This isn't a football game with multiple variables.  We're talking about voting for 1 song in each matchup.  It's that simple and the sum of the votes in each matchup should equal total members voted.

I see what you're saying, but I'm not going to let one or two people ruin the fun for everyone...if I can help it.

Fair enough I suppose.

[?]

I think one or two people not reading the poll question or OP is a lesser evil than people trolling the survivor - just keep going!

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 5 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43095.0

1.   The Silent Man defeats  Only a Matter of Time 20-9
2.   Along for the Ride defeats Anna Lee 18-11
3.   The Killing Hand defeats To Live Forever 18-9
4.   Hollow Years defeats The Answer Lies Within 18-11
5.   Never Enough defeats Enigma Machine 16-13
6.   Wither defeats A Rite of Passage 23-7
7.   Beneath the Surface defeats The Looking Glass 16-13
8.   Far From Heaven defeats Raise the Knife 16-13
9.   False Awakening Suite defeats Just Let Me Breathe 20-10
10.   As I Am defeats Forsaken 23-7
11.   Honor Thy Father & Ytse Jam draw 15-15
12.   New Millennium defeats Eve 15-14
13.   Vacant defeats A Fortune in Lies 18-11
14.   I Walk Beside You defeats Repentance 17-13
15.   Shattered Fortress defeats The Dark Eternal Night 20-10
16.   Lost Not Forgotten defeat Constant Motion 18-12


Division 3 Rankings after Week 5 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   As I Am 5-0 (+54)
2.   The Silent Man 5-0 (+46)
3.   The Shattered Fortress 5-0 (+31)
4.   Honor Thy Father 4-0-1 (+37)
5.   Lost Not Forgotten 4-1 (+43)
6.   Wither 4-1 (+36)
7.   Vacant 4-1 (+26) 
8.   The Killing Hand 4-1 (+23)
9.   The Looking Glass 4-1 (+20) 
10.   Far From Heaven 4-1 (+17)
11.   Beneath the Surface 4-1 (+13)
12.   New Millennium 4-1 (+12)
13.   I Walk Beside You 3-1-1 (+6)
14.   Hollow Years 3-2 (+14) 
15.   False Awakening Suite 3-2 (+12)
16.   Raise the Knife 3-2 (+7)
17.   Along for the Ride 3-2 (-10)
18.   Ytse Jam 2-2-1 (-5)
19.   Never  Enough 2-3 (-10)
20.   Constant Motion 1-3-1 (-5) 
21.   To Live Forever 1-3-1 (-5)
22.   The Answer Lies Within 1-3-1 (-15)
23.   The Dark Eternal Night 1-4 (-13)
24.   A Fortune In Lies 1-4 (-24)
25.   Forsaken 1-4 (-27)
26.   Anna Lee 0-4-1 (-40)
27.   Only a Matter of Time 0-4-1 (-42)
28.   Eve 0-5 (-15) 
29.   Enigma Machine 0-5 (-24)
30.   Repentance 0-5 (-33)
31.   A Rite of Passage 0-5 (-58)
32.   Just Let Me Breathe 0-5 (-71)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 5 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43101.0

1.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Lie 17-15
2.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Peruvian Skies 20-12
3.   Wait For Sleep defeats Through Her Eyes 22-10
4.   Innocence Faded defeats The Best of Times 22-11
5.   Surrounded defeats This Dying Soul 21-11
6.   Caught in a Web defeats The Enemy Inside 18-14
7.   Surrender to Reason defeats A Nightmare to Remember 19-14
8.   Another Day defeats This is the Life 17-15
9.    Erotomania defeats Panic Attack 17-14
10.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Behind the Veil 19-13
11.   Endless Sacrifice defeats The Bigger Picture 22-11
12.   Misunderstood defeats Outcry 21-12
13.   Sacrificed Sons defeats On the Backs of Angels 22-11
14.   These Walls defeats Afterlife 28-4
15.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats One Last Time 21-11
16.   6:00 defeats The Root of All Evil  17-16


Division 2 Rankings after Week 5 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   Misunderstood 5-0 (+71)
2.   Surrounded 5-0 (+58)
3.   Strange déjà vu 5-0 (+56)
4.   Endless Sacrifice 5-0 (+39)
5.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 5-0 (+15)
6.   These Walls 4-1 (+45)
7.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 4-1 (+12)
8.   6:00 4-1 (+9)     
9.   Caught in a Web 3-1-1 (+12)
10.   The Dance of Eternity 3-1-1 (+11)
11.   Wait For Sleep 3-2 (+18)
12.   Another Day 3-2 (+10)
13.   The Root of All Evil 3-2 (+10) 
14.   This Dying Soul 3-2 (+1)
15.   Surrender to Reason 3-2 (-2)
16.   Erotomania 2-2-1 (+3)
17.   The Bigger Picture 2-2-1 (+1)
18.   Lie 2-3 (+11)     
19.   This is the Life 2-3 (-8) 
20.   Peruvian Skies 2-3 (-15)
21.   Outcry 2-3 (-19)
22.   Sacrificed Sons 2-3 (+23) 
23.   Panic Attack 1-4 (-8) 
24.   Innocence Faded 1-4 (-13)
25.   On the Backs of Angels 1-4 (-23)
26.   The Enemy Inside 1-4 (-31)
27.   Through Her Eyes 1-4 (-43)
28.   A Nightmare to Remember 0-4-1 (-13)
29.   One Last Time 0-4-1 (-46)
30.   Behind the Veil 0-5 (-32)
31.   Afterlife 0-5 (-71)
32.   The Best of Times 0-5 (-81)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 5 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43109.0


1.   #14 Take the Time defeats #12 The Count of Tuscany 19-13
2.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats The Great Debate 19-14
3.   #5 Voices defeats Disappear 22-11
4.   #1 Breaking All Illusions defeats Bridges in the Sky 26-6
5.   Trial of Tears defeats Illumination Theory 23-9
6.   Blind Faith defeats Pull Me Under 18-15
7.   #8 Learning to Live defeats #10 Finally Free 19-13
8.   #7 Metropolis & #11 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence draw 16-16
9.   #13 The Glass Prison defeats Home 17-15
10.   #2 A Change of Seasons defeats #15  In the Name of God 22-11
11.   Under a Glass Moon & The Mirror draw 16-16
12.   #3 Octavarium defeats Fatal Tragedy 28-5
13.   #16 Space-Dye Vest defeats Beyond This Life 18-15
14.   #4 Scarred defeats Hell’s Kitchen 24-8
15.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Overture 1928 18-14
16.   #9 Lines in the Sand defeats #6 The Spirit Carries On 20-11


Division 1 Rankings after Week 5 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   Breaking All Illusions 5-0 (+91)
2.   Octavarium 5-0 (+70)
3.   A Change of Seasons 5-0 (+61)
4.   Scarred 5-0 (+36) 
5.   Voices 4-0-1 (+35)   
6.   Lines in the Sand  4-1 (+36)
7.   Learning to Live 4-1 (+34)
8.   Metropolis 3-1-1 (+34) 
9.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 3-1-1 (+15)
10.   The Glass Prison 3-1-1 (+7) 
11.   The Spirit Carries On 3-1-1 (+5)
12.   Take the Time 3-2 (+17)     
13.   Finally Free 3-2 (+11) 
14.   Space-Dye Vest 3-2 (+5)
15.   The Count of Tuscany 3-2 (-4)
16.   Blind Faith 2-2-1 (-9) 
17.   Trial of Tears 2-3 (+6)
18.   In the Name of God 2-3 (-7)
19.   Disappear 2-3 (-11) 
20.   Home 2-3 (-12) 
21.   Illumination Theory 2-3 (-16)
22.   In the Presence of Enemies 2-3 (-13)
23.   Stream of Consciousness 2-3 (-20)
24.   The Mirror 1-3-1 (-12) 
25.   Under a Glass Moon 1-3-1 (-37)
26.   The Great Debate 1-4 (-24)
27.   Fatal Tragedy 1-4 (-48)   
28.   Beyond This Life 0-5 (-26)
29.   Bridges in the Sky 0-5 (-44)
30.   Overture 1928  0-5 (-45)
31.   Hell’s Kitchen 0-5 (-61)
32.   Pull Me Under 0-5 (-64)

[erwinrafael]

A concert with the current Top 10 songs would be glorious.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 6 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43135.0

1.   Far From Heaven defeats Beneath the Surface 13-12
2.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Constant Motion 17-9
3.   Repentance defeats The Dark Eternal Night 14-12
4.   Vacant defeats I Walk Beside You 16-9
5.   A Fortune in Lies defeats Eve 15-10
6.   Ytse Jam defeats New Millennium 14-11
7.   Honor Thy Father defeats Forsaken 16-10
8.   As I Am defeats Just Let Me Breathe 21-5
9.   False Awakening Suite defeats Raise the Knife 13-12
10.   The Looking Glass defeats A Rite of Passage 15-11
11.   Wither defeats Enigma Machine 16-10
12.   Hollow Years defeats Never Enough 14-11
13.   The Killing Hand defeats The Answer Lies Within 15-10
14.   To Live Forever defeats Anna Lee 14-11
15.   Along for the Ride defeats Only a Matter of Time 13-12
16.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats The Silent Man 14-11


Division 3 Rankings after Week 6 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   As I Am 6-0 (+70) 
2.   The Shattered Fortress 6-0 (+39)
3.   Honor Thy Father 5-0-1 (+43)
4.   Lost Not Forgotten 5-1 (+46)
5.   The Silent Man 5-1 (+43)
6.   Wither 5-1 (+42)
7.   Vacant 5-1 (+33) 
8.   The Killing Hand 5-1 (+28)
9.   The Looking Glass 5-1 (+24) 
10.   Far From Heaven 5-1 (+18)
11.   Hollow Years 4-2 (+17)   
12.   False Awakening Suite 4-2 (+13) 
13.   Beneath the Surface 4-2 (+12)
14.   New Millennium 4-2 (+9)
15.   Along for the Ride 4-2 (-9)
16.   I Walk Beside You 3-2-1 (-1)
17.   Ytse Jam 3-2-1 (-2) 
18.   Raise the Knife 3-3 (+6)
19.   To Live Forever 2-3-1 (-2)
20.   Never  Enough 2-4 (-13)
21.   A Fortune In Lies 2-4 (-19)
22.   Constant Motion 1-4-1 (-13) 
23.   The Answer Lies Within 1-4-1 (-20)
24.   The Dark Eternal Night 1-5 (-15)
25.   Repentance 1-5 (-31)
26.   Forsaken 1-5 (-33)
27.   Anna Lee 0-5-1 (-43)
28.   Only a Matter of Time 0-5-1 (-43)
29.   Eve 0-6 (-20) 
30.   Enigma Machine 0-6 (-30)
31.   A Rite of Passage 0-6 (-62)
32.   Just Let Me Breathe 0-6 (-87)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 6 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43143.0

1.   The Ministry of Lost Souis defeats The Dance of Eternity 15-14
2.   The Bigger Picture defeats Panic Attack 17-14
3.   Another Day defeats Outcry 16-14
4.   Sacrificed Sons defeats A Nightmare to Remember 18-13
5.   Caught in a Web defeats Afterlife 21-9
6.   Surrounded defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 23-7
7.   6:00 defeats The Best of Times 19-11
8.   The Root of All Evil defeats Through Her Eyes 26-5
9.   Peruvian Skies defeats One Last Time 19-11
10.   These Walls defeats Lie 16-14
11.   Strange Déjà vu defeats On the Backs of Angels 18-11
12.   Misunderstood defeats Wait For Sleep 18-14
13.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Innocence Faded 23-8
14.   This Dying Soul defeats Behind the Veil 16-15
15.   Erotomania defeats The Enemy Inside 17-11
16.   Surrender to Reason defeats This is the Life 18-12



Division 2 Rankings after Week 6 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   Misunderstood 6-0 (+75)
2.   Surrounded 6-0 (+74)
3.   Strange déjà vu 6-0 (+63)
4.   Endless Sacrifice 6-0 (+54)
5.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 6-0 (+16)
6.   These Walls 5-1 (+47)
7.   6:00 5-1 (+17)       
8.   Caught in a Web 4-1-1 (+24)
9.   The Root of All Evil 4-2 (+31)   
10.   Another Day 4-2 (+12)
11.   Surrender to Reason 4-2 (+4)
12.   This Dying Soul 4-2 (+2)
13.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 4-2 (-4)
14.   The Dance of Eternity 3-2-1 (+10)
15.   Erotomania 3-2-1 (+9)
16.   The Bigger Picture 3-2-1 (+4)
17.   Sacrificed Sons 3-3 (+28)   
18.   Wait For Sleep 3-3 (+14) 
19.   Peruvian Skies 3-3 (-7)
20.   Lie 2-4 (+9)       
21.   This is the Life 2-4 (-14) 
22.   Outcry 2-4 (-21)
23.   Panic Attack 1-5 (-11) 
24.   Innocence Faded 1-5 (-28)
25.   On the Backs of Angels 1-5 (-30)
26.   The Enemy Inside 1-5 (-37)
27.   Through Her Eyes 1-5 (-64)
28.   A Nightmare to Remember 0-5-1 (-18)
29.   One Last Time 0-5-1 (-54)
30.   Behind the Veil 0-6 (-33)
31.   Afterlife 0-6 (-83)
32.   The Best of Times 0-6 (-89)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 6 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43150.0

1.   #9 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats In the Name of God 19-13
2.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Pull Me Under 17-14
3.   #7 Learning to Live defeats Illumination Theory 21-10
4.   Bridges in the Sky & #10 The Glass Prison draw 16-16
5.   #6 Lines in the Sand defeats The Mirror 16-15
6.   Fatal Tragedy defeats #15 The Count of Tuscany 16-15
7.   #14 Space-Dye Vest defeats Disappear 20-12
8.   #4 Scarred defeats #11 The Spirit Carries On 20-11
9.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats The Great Debate 20-12
10.   #5 Voices defeats Stream of Consciousness 22-9
11.   #12 Take the Time defeats Overture 1928 24-7
12.   #8 Metropolis defeats Beyond This Life 24-7
13.   Trial of Tears defeats Under a Glass Moon 20-11
14.   #3 A Change of Seasons defeats #16 Blind Faith 25-7
15.   #13 Finally Free defeats Home  16-15
16.   #2 Octavarium defeats #1 Breaking All Illusions 17-15


Division 1 Rankings after Week 6 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   A Change of Seasons 6-0 (+79)
2.   Octavarium 6-0 (+72)
3.   Scarred 6-0 (+45)   
4.   Voices 5-0-1 (+48)   
5.   Breaking All Illusions 5-1 (+89)
6.   Learning to Live 5-1 (+45) 
7.   Lines in the Sand  5-1 (+37)
8.   Metropolis 4-1-1 (+51) 
9.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 4-1-1 (+21)
10.   Take the Time 4-2 (+34)     
11.   Space-Dye Vest 4-2 (+13)
12.   Finally Free 4-2 (+12)   
13.   The Glass Prison 3-1-2 (+7) 
14.   The Spirit Carries On 3-2-1 (-4)
15.   Trial of Tears 3-3 (+15) 
16.   The Count of Tuscany 3-3 (-5)
17.   In the Presence of Enemies 3-3 (-10)
18.   Blind Faith 2-3-1 (-27) 
19.   Home 2-4 (-12)   
20.   In the Name of God 2-4 (-13)
21.   Disappear 2-4 (-19) 
22.   Illumination Theory 2-4 (-27)
23.   Stream of Consciousness 2-4 (-33)
24.   Fatal Tragedy 2-4 (-47)   
25.   The Mirror 1-4-1 (-13) 
26.   Under a Glass Moon 1-4-1 (-46)
27.   The Great Debate 1-5 (-32)
28.   Hell’s Kitchen 1-5 (-53)
29.   Bridges in the Sky 0-5-1 (-44)
30.   Beyond This Life 0-6 (-43)
31.   Overture 1928  0-6 (-62)
32.   Pull Me Under 0-6 (-67)



Have a good weekend. Week Seven starts on Monday.

[ToT-147]

I just noticed that Through My Words isn't in the league, nor in the survivors (4th division).. Why's that?...I don't think you have forgot it...

[Destiny Of Chaos]

I just noticed that Through My Words isn't in the league, nor in the survivors (4th division).. Why's that?...I don't think you have forgot it...

In the old years, it was an automatic 0-20. Maybe I'll add it to the 4th division.

[ToT-147]

I just noticed that Through My Words isn't in the league, nor in the survivors (4th division).. Why's that?...I don't think you have forgot it...

In the old years, it was an automatic 0-20. Maybe I'll add it to the 4th division.

Maybe you should.. I mean, it's the only one missing of their whole catalogue, and according to your stats from the latest competition, all these songs had pretty bad records too..

Burning My Soul 0-21 .000
Raw Dog 0-20 .000
The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun 0-21.000
The Way It Used to Be 0-20 .000
You Not Me 0-21 .000
You or Me 0-20 .000

Personally, I like it more than a lot of other songs among all divisions..

[hefdaddy42]

You are the one.

I mean, it's OK to add it for completeness, but it won't win anything except maybe against one of these other winless songs.

[Prog Snob]

I'd add it.  Just my two cents.  Especially since you do have Raw Dog.   

[?]

I think the current system is fine, because I doubt TMW (or any of the songs that aren't in the third division at the moment) would ever win a match.

[hefdaddy42]

I'd add it.  Just my two cents.  Especially since you do have Raw Dog.   

A good point that I had not considered.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 7 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43175.0

1.   The Silent Man defeats A Fortune in Lies 19-12
2.   New Millennium defeats I Walk Beside You 19-13
3.   Honor Thy Father defeats The Dark Eternal Night 21-11
4.   As I Am defeats Constant Motion 23-8
5.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats False Awakening Suite 22-8
6.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Far From Heaven 21-11
7.   The Looking Glass defeats Repentance 18-14
8.   Eve defeats Never Enough 18-13
9.   Ytse Jam defeats The Answer Lies Within 19-12
10.   Forsaken defeats To Live Forever 18-13
11.   Along For the Ride defeats Just Let Me Breathe 20-10
12.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Raise the Knife 17-13
13.   Beneath the Surface defeats Anna Lee 17-14
14.   The Killing Hand defeats A Rite of Passage 21-9
15.   Hollow Years defeats Enigma Machine 17-14
16.   Vacant defeats Wither 17-15


Division 3 Rankings after Week 7 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   As I Am 7-0 (+85) 
2.   The Shattered Fortress 7-0 (+49)
3.   Honor Thy Father 6-0-1 (+53)
4.   Lost Not Forgotten 6-1 (+60)
5.   The Silent Man 6-1 (+50)
6.   Vacant 6-1 (+35)   
7.   The Killing Hand 6-1 (+28)
8.   The Looking Glass 6-1 (+28) 
9.   Wither 5-2 (+40)
10.   Hollow Years 5-2 (+20)   
11.   Beneath the Surface 5-2 (+15)
12.   New Millennium 5-2 (+15)
13.   Far From Heaven 5-2 (+8)
14.   Along for the Ride 5-2 (+1) 
15.   Ytse Jam 4-2-1 (+5)   
16.   False Awakening Suite 4-3 (-1) 
17.   I Walk Beside You 3-3-1 (-7)
18.   Raise the Knife 3-4 (+2)
19.   To Live Forever 2-4-1 (-7)
20.   Never  Enough 2-5 (-18)
21.   A Fortune In Lies 2-5 (-26)
22.   Forsaken 2-5 (-28) 
23.   The Answer Lies Within 1-5-1 (-27)
24.   Constant Motion 1-5-1 (-28)   
25.   Only a Matter of Time 1-5-1 (-39)
26.   Eve 1-6 (-15)   
27.   The Dark Eternal Night 1-6 (-25)
28.   Repentance 1-6 (-35)
29.   Anna Lee 0-6-1 (-46)
30.   Enigma Machine 0-7 (-33)
31.   A Rite of Passage 0-7 (-74)
32.   Just Let Me Breathe 0-7 (-97)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 7 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43179.0

1.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Innocence Faded 14-12
2.   Wait For Sleep defeats This Dying Soul 17-10
3.   Strange déjà vu defeats The Enemy Inside 20-5
4.   Surrender to Reason defeats Lie 15-11
5.   Peruvian Skies defeats This is the Life 13-12
6.   Erotomania defeats Through Her Eyes 16-10
7.   Behind the Veil defeats The Best of Times 18-9
8.   On the Backs of Angels defeats A Nightmare to Remember 14-13
9.   These Walls defeats Another Day 15-12
10.   Panic Attack defeats One Last Time 16-11
11.   The Bigger Picture defeats  6:00 14-11
12.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Outcry 16-10
13.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Afterlife 22-4
14.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats The Root of All Evil 14-12
15.   Misunderstood defeats Caught in a Web 18-9
16.   Surrounded defeats Endless Sacrifice 16-11


Division 2 Rankings after Week 7 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   Misunderstood 7-0 (+84)
2.   Surrounded 7-0 (+79) 
3.   Strange déjà vu 7-0 (+78)
4.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 7-0 (+18)
5.   These Walls 6-1 (+50) 
6.   Endless Sacrifice 6-1 (+49)
7.   6:00 5-2 (+14)       
8.   Surrender to Reason 5-2 (+8)
9.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 5-2 (+2) 
10.   Caught in a Web 4-2-1 (+15)
11.   Erotomania 4-2-1 (+15)   
12.   The Dance of Eternity 4-2-1 (+12)
13.   The Bigger Picture 4-2-1 (+7) 
14.   Sacrificed Sons 4-3 (+46)   
15.   The Root of All Evil 4-3 (+29)   
16.   Wait For Sleep 4-3 (+21)   
17.   Another Day 4-3 (+9)
18.   This Dying Soul 4-3 (-5)
19.   Peruvian Skies 4-3 (-6)
20.   Lie 2-5 (+5)       
21.   Panic Attack 2-5 (-6) 
22.   This is the Life 2-5 (-15) 
23.   Outcry 2-5 (-27) 
24.   On the Backs of Angels 2-5 (-29)
25.   Behind the Veil 1-6 (-24) 
26.   Innocence Faded 1-6 (-30)
27.   The Enemy Inside 1-6 (-52)
28.   Through Her Eyes 1-6 (-70)
29.   A Nightmare to Remember 0-6-1 (-19)
30.   One Last Time 0-6-1 (-59)
31.   The Best of Times 0-7 (-98)
32.   Afterlife 0-7 (-101)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 7 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43184.0

1.   #15 Trial of Tears defeats #13 The Glass Prison 18-13
2.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats #3 Scarred 15-14
3.   Beyond This Life defeats Overture 1928 19-11
4.   #1 A Change of Seasons defeats #11 Space-Dye Vest 22-9
5.   #2 Octavarium defeats Stream of Consciousness 27-4
6.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Hell’s Kitchen 15-14
7.   #16 The Count of Tuscany defeats Disappear 19-12
8.   #9 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats  #4 Voices 18-12
9.   #12 Finally Free defeats The Mirror 17-14
10.   In the Name of God defeats Blind Faith 19-12
11.   #8 Metropolis defeats Pull Me Under 26-4
12.   #14 The Spirit Carries On defeats Illumination Theory 17-13
13.   #10 Take the Time defeats Bridges in the Sky 19-11
14.   #7 Lines in the Sand defeats The Great Debate 18-13
15.   Home defeats Fatal Tragedy 18-12
16.   #5 Breaking All Illusions defeats #6 Learning to Live 17-14


Division 1 Rankings after Week 7 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   Octavarium 7-0 (+95) 
2.   A Change of Seasons 7-0 (+92)
3.   Breaking All Illusions 6-1 (+92)
4.   Scarred 6-1 (+44)     
5.   Lines in the Sand  6-1 (+42)
6.   Metropolis 5-1-1 (+73)   
7.   Voices 5-1-1 (+42)   
8.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 5-1-1 (+27)
9.   Learning to Live 5-2 (+42) 
10.   Take the Time 5-2 (+42)     
11.   Finally Free 5-2 (+15)     
12.   The Spirit Carries On 4-2-1 (0)
13.   Trial of Tears 4-3 (+20)   
14.   The Count of Tuscany 4-3 (+2)
15.   The Glass Prison 3-2-2 (+2) 
16.   Space-Dye Vest 4-3 (0)
17.   In the Presence of Enemies 4-3 (-9)
18.   Home 3-4 (-6)   
19.   In the Name of God 3-4 (-6)
20.   Blind Faith 2-4-1 (-34)   
21.   Under a Glass Moon 2-4-1 (-45)
22.   Disappear 2-5 (-26) 
23.   Illumination Theory 2-5 (-31)
24.   Fatal Tragedy 2-5 (-53)   
25.   Stream of Consciousness 2-5 (-56)
26.   The Mirror 1-5-1 (-16) 
27.   The Great Debate 1-6 (-37)
28.   Beyond This Life 1-6 (-38)
29.   Hell’s Kitchen 1-6 (-54)
30.   Bridges in the Sky 0-6-1 (-52)
31.   Overture 1928  0-7 (-70)
32.   Pull Me Under 0-7 (-89)


Week 8 starts tomorrow.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 8 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43201.0

1.   The Silent Man & Honor Thy Father is a draw at 14-14
2.   A Fortune in Lies defeats False Awakening Suite 18-11
3.   I Walk Beside You defeats Far From Heaven 15-14
4.   The Looking Glass defeats The Dark Eternal Night 17-12
5.   Wither defeats Constant Motion 20-9
6.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Never Enough 21-7
7.   The Shattered Fortress defeats The Answer Lies Within 21-9
8.   Repentance defeats To Live Forever 15-14
9.   Vacant defeats Along For the Ride 19-10
10.   Eve defeats Only a Matter of Time 18-10
11.   Ytse Jam defeats Anna Lee 17-12
12.   The Killing Hand defeats Forsaken 19-10
13.   Hollow Years defeats Just Let Me Breathe 25-3
14.   Raise the Knife defeats Enigma Machine 18-10
15.   Beneath the Surface defeats A Rite of Passage 20-8
16.   As I Am defeats New Millennium 20-11



Division 3 Rankings after Week 8 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   As I Am 8-0 (+94) 
2.   The Shattered Fortress 8-0 (+61)
3.   Lost Not Forgotten 7-1 (+74)
4.   Honor Thy Father 6-0-2 (+53)
5.   Vacant 7-1 (+44)     
6.   The Killing Hand 7-1 (+37)
7.   The Looking Glass 7-1 (+33) 
8.   The Silent Man 6-1-1 (+50)
9.   Wither 6-2 (+51)
10.   Hollow Years 6-2 (+42)   
11.   Beneath the Surface 6-2 (+27)
12.   Ytse Jam 5-2-1 (+10)   
13.   Far From Heaven 5-3 (+7)
14.   New Millennium 5-3 (+6)
15.   Along for the Ride 5-3 (-8)   
16.   I Walk Beside You 4-3-1 (-6)
17.   Raise the Knife 4-4 (+10)
18.   False Awakening Suite 4-4 (-8) 
19.   A Fortune In Lies 3-5 (-19)
20.   To Live Forever 2-5-1 (-8)
21.   Eve 2-6 (-7)   
22.   Never  Enough 2-6 (-32)
23.   Repentance 2-6 (-34) 
24.   Forsaken 2-6 (-37) 
25.   The Answer Lies Within 1-6-1 (-39)
26.   Constant Motion 1-6-1 (-39)   
27.   Only a Matter of Time 1-6-1 (-47)
28.   The Dark Eternal Night 1-7 (-30)
29.   Anna Lee 0-7-1 (-51)
30.   Enigma Machine 0-8 (-41)
31.   A Rite of Passage 0-8 (-86)
32.   Just Let Me Breathe 0-8 (-119)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 7 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43206.0

1.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Caught in a Web 17-12
2.   Surrounded defeats A Nightmare to Remember 20-10
3.   Another Day defeats The Best of Times 21-9
4.   Panic Attack defeats Through Her Eyes 21-10
5.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Peruvian Skies 15-14
6.   The Bigger Picture defeats Lie 18-11
7.   Outcry defeats Strange déjà vu 15-13
8.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Wait For Sleep 17-12
9.   Innocence Faded defeats Afterlife 20-9
10.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats This Dying Soul 18-12
11.   6:00 defeats The Enemy Inside 19-9
12.   The Root of All Evil defeats Surrender to Reason 16-14
13.   This is the Life defeats One Last Time 17-12
14.   These Walls defeats Erotomania 17-12
15.   On the Backs of Angels defeats Behind the Veil 15-13
16.   Misunderstood defeats Endless Sacrifice 17-13


Division 2 Rankings after Week 8 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   Surrounded 8-0 (+89)   
2.   Misunderstood 8-0 (+88)
3.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 8-0 (+19)
4.   Strange déjà vu 7-1 (+76)
5.   These Walls 7-1 (+55) 
6.   Endless Sacrifice 6-2 (+45)
7.   6:00 6-2 (+24)         
8.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 6-2 (+8) 
9.   The Dance of Eternity 5-2-1 (+17)
10.   The Bigger Picture 5-2-1 (+14) 
11.   Sacrificed Sons 5-3 (+51)     
12.   The Root of All Evil 5-3 (+31)   
13.   Another Day 5-3 (+21)
14.   Surrender to Reason 5-3 (+6)
15.   Erotomania 4-3-1 (+20)     
16.   Caught in a Web 4-3-1 (+10)
17.   Wait For Sleep 4-4 (+16)   
18.   Peruvian Skies 4-4 (-7)
19.   This Dying Soul 4-4 (-11)
20.   Panic Attack 3-5 (+5) 
21.   This is the Life 3-5 (-10) 
22.   Outcry 3-5 (-25) 
23.   On the Backs of Angels 3-5 (-27)
24.   Lie 2-6 (-2)         
25.   Innocence Faded 2-6 (-19)
26.   Behind the Veil 1-7 (-26) 
27.   The Enemy Inside 1-7 (-62)
28.   Through Her Eyes 1-7 (-81)
29.   A Nightmare to Remember 0-7-1 (-29)
30.   One Last Time 0-7-1 (-64)
31.   The Best of Times 0-8 (-110)
32.   Afterlife 0-8 (-112)
 

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 8 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43214.0

1.   #16 Space-Dye Vest defeats In the Presence of Enemies 16-12
2.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Hell’s Kitchen 18-10
3.   The Mirror defeats Stream of Consciousness 17-11
4.   In the Name of God defeats Overture 1928 18-10
5.   #4 Scarred defeats #15 The Glass Prison 18-10
6.   #9 Learning to Live defeats Beyond This Life 20-8
7.   #1 Octavarium defeats Pull Me Under 26-3
8.   #10 Take the Time defeats #12 The Spirit Carries On 18-9
9.   Illumination Theory defeats Under a Glass Moon 17-11
10.   #2 A Change of Seasons defeats Bridges in the Sky 22-6
11.   Home defeats #8 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 16-11
12.   #5 Lines in the Sand defeats #11 Finally Free 14-13
13.   #14 The Count of Tuscany defeats Blind Faith 19-10
14.   #13 Trial of Tears defeats Disappear 18-11
15.   #3 Breaking All Illusions defeats The Great Debate 25-4
16.   #6 Metropolis defeats #7 Voices 19-9


Division 1 Rankings after Week 8 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   Octavarium 8-0 (+118) 
2.   A Change of Seasons 8-0 (+108)
3.   Breaking All Illusions 7-1 (+113)
4.   Scarred 7-1 (+48)     
5.   Lines in the Sand  7-1 (+43)
6.   Metropolis 6-1-1 (+83)   
7.   Learning to Live 6-2 (+54)   
8.   Take the Time 6-2 (+51)     
9.   Voices 5-2-1 (+32)   
10.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 5-2-1 (+22)
11.   Trial of Tears 5-3 (+27)     
12.   Finally Free 5-3 (+14)       
13.   The Count of Tuscany 5-3 (+11)
14.   Space-Dye Vest 5-3 (+4) 
15.   The Spirit Carries On 4-3-1 (-9)
16.   In the Name of God 4-4 (+2)
17.   Home 4-4 (-1)     
18.   The Glass Prison 3-3-2 (-6) 
19.   In the Presence of Enemies 4-4 (-13)
20.   Illumination Theory 3-5 (-25)
21.   Fatal Tragedy 3-5 (-45)     
22.   The Mirror 2-5-1 (-10) 
23.   Blind Faith 2-5-1 (-43)   
24.   Under a Glass Moon 2-5-1 (-51)
25.   Disappear 2-6 (-33) 
26.   Stream of Consciousness 2-6 (-62)
27.   Beyond This Life 1-7 (-50)
28.   The Great Debate 1-7 (-58)
29.   Hell’s Kitchen 1-7 (-62)
30.   Bridges in the Sky 0-7-1 (-68)
31.   Overture 1928  0-8 (-78)
32.   Pull Me Under 0-8 (-112)

[fischermasamune]

How long is this tournament? How many weeks?

(Go go TDOE!)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

How long is this tournament? How many weeks?

(Go go TDOE!)

The season is 20 weeks long. After that, we'll have the Album and Division Tournaments.

[Prog Snob]

Just looking over some of the division listings.  It's so strange seeing Surrounded in Division 2 while Hell's Kitchen is in Division 1.  Though it does appear that could change soon,. 

[Fredo96993]

Why only 20 weeks when each league has 32 songs? Surely we want each song to face each other? How can you decide which songs don't go against each other?

[Fredo96993]

I think there should just be a league 4 which will make each division smaller and the competition shorter. The "relegated" songs will get a chance to compete too.

[Prog Snob]

Why only 20 weeks when each league has 32 songs? Surely we want each song to face each other? How can you decide which songs don't go against each other?

That won't necessarily happen anyway.  With the ability of a song to jump from one division to the next, it might take far more than 32 weeks for a song to face each song in its division.

[hefdaddy42]

Why only 20 weeks when each league has 32 songs?

Because it will take forever.

20 weeks is plenty long enough to get a good read on how each song ranks relative to the rest of the field.

[fischermasamune]

How are the matches calculated? Is it like a swiss tournament?

[hefdaddy42]

How are the matches calculated? Is it like a swiss tournament?

I would imagine all of the necessary information is in the OP.

But regardless, it's basically an arbitrary thing, done for entertainment purposes.  And DoC does a hell of a job with this every year.