DT the League 2015 - Results, Standings and Discussion Thread.

[Prog Snob]

Isn't it always though? Either 1 or 2? Nothing shocking there for me.

I don't recall it's placing in the past.  I just always figured ACOS, Metropolis, or LTL will be one of the number 1 songs. 

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Not only did Octavarium win the 2014 Tournament, but it has won it's last 46 matches going back to Week 1 of the 2014 Season.

[Prog Snob]

Not only did Octavarium win the 2014 Tournament, but it has won it's last 46 matches going back to Week 1 of the 2014 Season.

Interesting.  What did it last lose to? 

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Not only did Octavarium win the 2014 Tournament, but it has won it's last 46 matches going back to Week 1 of the 2014 Season.

Interesting.  What did it last lose to?

From the Final Four of the 2013 Tournament:

Petrucci Semifinal 1
1. Learning to Live vs. 1. In the Name of God 32-13

Petrucci Semifinal 2
1.   A Change of Seasons defeats 1. Octavarium 24-17


Championship Match
1. A Change of Seasons defeats 1. Learning to Live 24-19

[Prog Snob]

Now that's more like it.   

[hefdaddy42]

I am most surprised that Hell's Kitchen is 1-16.

[Dublagent66]

Nothing on this forum surprises me in the least.  More like pissed off.

[hefdaddy42]

Nothing on this forum surprises me in the least.  More like pissed off.

None of this is important enough to piss me off.

[Dublagent66]

Now that's surprising.


Illumination Theory climbs to #14.  Ridiculous. 

[hefdaddy42]

What's really ridiculous is that Trial of Tears and Glass Prison are 18 & 19.

[BlackInk]

What's really ridiculous is that Trial of Tears and Glass Prison are 18 & 19.

Agreed.

[RoeDent]

Good to see that Bridges has climbed out of the red zone. I know it can't reach the tournament, but hopefully it will be able to compete in Division 1 next year and hopefully do better.

[TheCountOfNYC]

No Division 3 today?

[Destiny Of Chaos]

No Division 3 today?

Just posted it. Sorry for the delay.... had a long day.

[TheCountOfNYC]

No Division 3 today?

Just posted it. Sorry for the delay.... had a long day.

It's all good.

[erwinrafael]

I love the Top 5, so far.

1.   *Octavarium 17-0 (+258)  The perfection of the DT epic
2.   *Breaking All Illusions 16-1 (+229)  The perfection of the DT classic
3.   *A Change of Seasons 15-2 (+195) The first DT epic
4.   *Metropolis 14-2-1 (+183) The first DT classic   
5.   *Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 14-2-1 (+126) The most ambitious DT project

I also love that each the Top 4 songs, so far, have a different DT lineup. 

[Destiny Of Chaos]

I haven't had a chance to update the standings yet. Will probably hit that tomorrow. Gonna start the next week in a few minutes.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 18 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43595.0

1.   Hollow Years defeats Anna Lee 18-7
2.   Only a Matter of Time &  Enigma Machine tie 12-12
3.   Along for the Ride defeats  A Rite of Passage 15-10
4.   Beneath the Surface defeats To Live Forever 13-12
5.   Raise the Knife defeats The Answer Lies Within 18-7
6.   Never Enough defeats Just Let Me Breathe 17-7
7.   The Killing Hand defeats The Silent Man 16-9
8.   Wither defeats Forsaken 17-8
9.   The Looking Glass defeats Ytse Jam 13-12
10.   Far From Heaven defeats Eve 13-12
11.   Vacant defeats False Awakening Suite 19-6
12.   As I Am defeats Repentance  20-5
13.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats New Millennium 16-8
14.   A Fortune in Lies defeats Constant Motion 14-11
15.   The Dark Eternal Night defeats I Walk Beside You 13-12
16.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Honor Thy Father 15-9


Division 3 Rankings after Week 18 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *As I Am 18-0 (+201) 
2.   *Vacant 16-1-1 (+130)               
3.   *The Shattered Fortress 15-3 (+124) 
4.   *Honor Thy Father 14-2-2 (+95) 
5.   *Lost Not Forgotten 14-3-1 (+133)   
6.   *The Killing Hand 13-2-3 (+64) 
7.   *Hollow Years 14-4 (+94)         
8.   *Beneath the Surface 13-5 (+62) 
9.   *The Looking Glass 13-5 (+49)     
10.   *Wither 12-5-1 (+69)   
11.   *New Millennium 12-6 (+24)     
12.   *Ytse Jam 11-6-1 (+38)       
13.   Raise the Knife 11-7 (+39)     
14.   The Silent Man 10-7-1 (+67) 
15.   A Fortune In Lies 10-8 (+16)     
16.   Far From Heaven 9-8-1 (-16) 
17.   Along for the Ride 9-9 (-28)     
18.   The Dark Eternal Night 7-10-1 (-19)
19.   I Walk Beside You 7-10-1 (-46) 
20.   X Eve 7-11 (-4)           
21.   X Forsaken 7-11 (-38)     
22.   X To Live Forever 6-11-1 (-22)   
23.   X Repentance 6-12 (-60)     
24.   X False Awakening Suite 6-12 (-75)   
25.   X Constant Motion 5-12-1 (-41)     
26.   X Only a Matter of Time 4-12-2 (-85) 
27.   X Anna Lee 3-14-1 (-73)   
28.   X Never  Enough 3-15 (-75) 
29.   X The Answer Lies Within 2-15-1 (-90)
30.   X Enigma Machine 1-16-1 (-113)
31.   X A Rite of Passage 0-18 (-174)
32.   X Just Let Me Breathe 0-18 (-226)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 18 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43600.0

1.   Strange Déjà vu & A Nightmare to Remember tie 12-12
2.   On the Backs of Angels defeats One Last Time 16-8
3.   The Dance of Eternity & These Walls tie 12-12
4.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Behind the Veil 15-9
5.   Erotomania defeats Afterlife 21-3
6.   Sacrificed Sons defeats This is the Life 14-10
7.   The Bigger Picture defeats The Enemy Inside 16-8
8.   Endless Sacrifice defeats 6:00 17-7
9.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats This Dying Soul 14-10
10.   Panic Attack defeats Innocence Faded 14-10
11.   Another Day defeats Wait For Sleep 13-11
12.   Caught in a Web defeats Lie 14-9
13.   Surrounded defeats Peruvian Skies 18-5
14.   Through Her Eyes defeats The Best of Times 15-9
15.   Outcry defeats Surrender to Reason 12-11
16.   Misunderstood defeats The Root of All Evil 15-9


Division 2 Rankings after Week 18 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *Surrounded 18-0 (+207)   
2.   *Misunderstood 17-1 (+147)
3.   *Endless Sacrifice 15-3 (+115)     
4.   *Lifting Shadows off a Dream 15-3 (+60)   
5.   *Strange déjà vu 14-3-1 (+122)   
6.   *The Root of All Evil 13-5 (+61)     
7.   *Another Day 13-5 (+57)       
8.   *The Ministry of Lost Souls 13-5 (+23)   
9.   *These Walls 12-5-1 (+71)     
10.   Wait For Sleep 11-7 (+45)       
11.   6:00 11-7 (+18)               
12.   This Dying Soul 11-7 (-2)       
13.   Erotomania 10-7-1 (+38)           
14.   The Bigger Picture 10-7-1 (+33)   
15.   Caught in a Web 10-7-1 (+14)   
16.   Sacrificed Sons 10-8 (+64)       
17.   Surrender to Reason 10-8 (+38)
18.   The Dance of Eternity 9-7-2 (+12)   
19.   Lie 9-9 (+35)                 
20.   Outcry 9-9 (-29)       
21.   X On the Backs of Angels 7-11 (-33)
22.   X Peruvian Skies 7-11 (-40)   
23.   X This is the Life 6-12 (-26)   
24.   X A Nightmare to Remember 5-11-2 (-1)
25.   X Panic Attack 4-14 (-36)   
26.   X Innocence Faded 4-14 (-62)
27.   X The Enemy Inside 4-14 (-147)
28.   X Through Her Eyes 3-15 (-173)   
29.   X One Last Time 2-15-1 (-110) 
30.   X Behind the Veil 1-17 (-72) 
31.   X The Best of Times 0-18 (-218)
32.   X Afterlife 0-18 (-229)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 18 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43605.0

1.   Pull Me Under defeats Overture 1928 14-10
2.   The Glass Prison defeats Hell’s Kitchen 13-11
3.   Bridges in the Sky defeats Beyond This Life 13-11
4.   Fatal Tragedy defeats The Mirror  16-8
5.   #4 Metropolis defeats In the Presence of Enemies 16-8
6.   #8 Voices defeats Blind Faith 15-9
7.   #15 In the Name of God defeats Space-Dye Vest 14-10
8.   #9 Scarred & #14 Illumination Theory tie 12-12
9.   Trial of Tears defeats #7 Take the Time 14-10
10.   #10 Home defeats Disappear 15-9
11.   #11 Lines in the Sand defeats Under a Glass Moon 14-10
12.   #2 Breaking All Illusions defeats  #12 The Spirit Carries On  19-5
13.   #16 Finally Free defeats The Great Debate 17-6
14.   #6 Learning to Live  defeats Stream of Consciousness 16-8
15.   #3 A Change of Seasons defeats #13 The Count of Tuscany 15-9
16.   #1 Octavarium defeats #5 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 15-8


Division 1 Rankings after Week 18 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.
* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   *Octavarium 18-0 (+265) 
2.   *Breaking All Illusions 17-1 (+243) 
3.   *A Change of Seasons 16-2 (+201)
4.   *Metropolis 15-2-1 (+191)     
5.   *Learning to Live 15-3 (+193)     
6.   *Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 14-3-1 (+119)
7.   *Voices 13-4-1 (+71)       
8.   *Take the Time 13-5 (+93)       
9.   *Scarred 11-4-3 (+58)         
10.   *Home 11-5-2 (+64)             
11.   *Lines in the Sand  11-5-2 (+7) 
12.   In the Name of God 11-7 (+7) 
13.   The Spirit Carries On 10-6-2 (-16)     
14.   Finally Free 10-7-1 (+17)         
15.   Illumination Theory 10-7-1 (+3)   
16.   Trial of Tears 9-7-2 (+16)         
17.   The Glass Prison 9-7-2 (+7)       
18.   The Count of Tuscany 10-8 (+6) 
19.   Space-Dye Vest 9-8-1 (-32)     
20.   X The Mirror 6-11-1 (-42)     
21.   X Blind Faith 6-11-1 (-52)     
22.   X In the Presence of Enemies 5-13 (-82)
23.   X Stream of Consciousness 5-13 (-105) 
24.   X Fatal Tragedy 5-13 (-109)       
25.   X Under a Glass Moon 4-12-2 (-111) 
26.   X Bridges in the Sky 3-14-1 (-126) 
27.   X Disappear 2-16 (-113)       
28.   X The Great Debate 2-16 (-130)   
29.   X Beyond This Life 2-16 (-142)   
30.   X Pull Me Under 2-16 (-184)
31.   X Hell’s Kitchen 1-17 (-146) 
32.   X Overture 1928  1-17 (-167)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 19 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43625.0

1.   The Killing Hand defeats A Fortune in Lies 16-4
2.   The Looking Glass defeats Never Enough 14-8
3.   The Answer Lies Within defeats Far From Heaven 12-10
4.   Hollow Years defeats I Walk Beside You 15-7
5.   To Live Forever defeats False Awakening Suite 13-8
6.   As I Am defeats Along for the Ride 18-4
7.   Honor Thy Father defeats Only a Matter of Time 16-6
8.   New Millennium defeats  Anna Lee 13-9
9.   Wither defeats The Silent Man 13-9
10.   The Dark Eternal Night defeats Enigma Machine 12-8
11.   Constant Motion defeats A Rite of Passage 14-7
12.   Repentance defeats Just Let Me Breathe 15-7
13.   Vacant defeats Forsaken 16-5
14.   Eve defeats Ytse Jam 13-9
15.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Beneath the Surface 13-9
16.   Raise the Knife defeats The Shattered Fortress 12-10


Division 3 Rankings after Week 19 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *As I Am 19-0 (+215) 
2.   *Vacant 17-1-1 (+141)               
3.   *Honor Thy Father 15-2-2 (+105) 
4.   *Lost Not Forgotten 15-3-1 (+137) 
5.   *The Killing Hand 14-2-3 (+76)   
6.   *The Shattered Fortress 15-4 (+122) 
7.   *Hollow Years 15-4 (+102)         
8.   *The Looking Glass 14-5 (+55)     
9.   *Wither 13-5-1 (+73)     
10.   *Beneath the Surface 13-6 (+58) 
11.   *New Millennium 13-6 (+28)     
12.    *Raise the Knife 12-7 (+41)       
13.   *Ytse Jam 11-7-1 (+34)       
14.   *The Silent Man 10-8-1 (+63) 
15.   A Fortune In Lies 10-9 (+4)     
16.   Far From Heaven 9-9-1 (-18) 
17.   Along for the Ride 9-10 (-42)     
18.   The Dark Eternal Night 8-10-1 (-15)
19.   X Eve 8-11 (0)             
20.   X To Live Forever 7-11-1 (-17)   
21.   X I Walk Beside You 7-11-1 (-54) 
22.   X Forsaken 7-12 (-49)     
23.   X Repentance 7-12 (-52)       
24.   X Constant Motion 6-12-1 (-34)     
25.   X False Awakening Suite 6-13 (-80)   
26.   X Only a Matter of Time 4-13-2 (-85) 
27.   X Anna Lee 3-15-1 (-77)   
28.   X The Answer Lies Within 3-15-1 (-88)
29.   X Never  Enough 3-16 (-81) 
30.   X Enigma Machine 1-17-1 (-117)
31.   X A Rite of Passage 0-19 (-181)
32.   X Just Let Me Breathe 0-19 (-234)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 19 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43630.0


1.   The Root of All Evil defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 13-12
2.   One Last Time defeats Afterlife 17-8
3.   Sacrificed Sons defeats These Walls 13-12
4.   On the Backs of Angels defeats Outcry 13-12
5.   Misunderstood defeats The Bigger Picture 16-9
6.   Panic Attack defeats Behind the Veil 14-11
7.   Erotomania defeats Another Day 15-10
8.   The Dance of Eternity defeats 6:00 16-9
9.   This is the Life defeats A Nightmare to Remember 15-10
10.   Surrounded defeats The Enemy Inside 22-3
11.   This Dying Soul defeats The Best of Times 17-8
12.   Innocence Faded defeats Through Her Eyes 19-6
13.   Wait for Sleep defeats Peruvian Skies 15-10
14.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Lie 20-5
15.   Surrender to Reason defeats Caught in a Web 18-7
16.   Endless Sacrifice defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 15-10


Division 2 Rankings after Week 19 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *Surrounded 19-0 (+226)   
2.   *Misunderstood 18-1 (+154)
3.   *Endless Sacrifice 16-3 (+120)     
4.   *Strange déjà vu 15-3-1 (+137)   
5.   *Lifting Shadows off a Dream 15-4 (+59)   
6.   *The Root of All Evil 14-5 (+62)     
7.   *Another Day 13-6 (+52)       
8.   *The Ministry of Lost Souls 13-6 (+18)   
9.   *These Walls 12-6-1 (+70)     
10.   *Wait For Sleep 12-7 (+50)       
11.   *This Dying Soul 12-7 (+7)         
12.   Erotomania 11-7-1 (+43)           
13.   Sacrificed Sons 11-8 (+65)       
14.   Surrender to Reason 11-8 (+49)
15.   The Dance of Eternity 10-7-2 (+19)   
16.   6:00 11-8 (+11)                 
17.   The Bigger Picture 10-8-1 (+26)   
18.   Caught in a Web 10-8-1 (+3)   
19.   X Lie 9-10 (+50)                 
20.   X Outcry 9-10 (-30)       
21.   X On the Backs of Angels 8-11 (-32)
22.   X This is the Life 7-12 (-21)     
23.   X Peruvian Skies 7-12 (-45)   
24.   X A Nightmare to Remember 5-12-2 (-6)
25.   X Panic Attack 5-14 (-33)   
26.   X Innocence Faded 5-14 (-75)
27.   X The Enemy Inside 4-14 (-147)
28.   X One Last Time 3-15-1 (-101)   
29.   X Through Her Eyes 3-16 (-186)   
30.   X Behind the Veil 1-18 (-75) 
31.   X The Best of Times 0-19 (-227)
32.   X Afterlife 0-19 (-238)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 19 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43634.0


1.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Overture 1928 16-7
2.   #9 Scarred defeats Stream of Consciousness 15-8
3.   Beyond This Life defeats Hell’s Kitchen 14-9
4.   #1 Octavarium defeats Space-Dye Vest 22-2
5.   Disappear defeats The Great Debate 13-11
6.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Fatal Tragedy 12-11
7.   #3 A Change of Seasons defeats The Mirror 16-7
8.   The Glass Prison defeats #14 Finally Free 13-11
9.   #5 Learning to Live defeats Blind Faith 18-6
10.   #16 Trial of Tears defeats Pull Me Under 16-7
11.   #2 Breaking All Illusions defeats #15 Illumination Theory  15-9
12.   #6 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats #13 The Spirit Carries On 17-6
13.   #4 Metropolis defeats Bridges in the Sky 17-6
14.   #8 Take the Time defeats #11 Lines in the Sand 13-10
15.   #7 Voices defeats The Count of Tuscany 13-10
16.   #12 In the Name of God defeats #10  Home 15-9


Division 1 Rankings after Week 19 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.
* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   *Octavarium 19-0 (+285) 
2.   *Breaking All Illusions 18-1 (+249) 
3.   *A Change of Seasons 17-2 (+210)
4.   *Metropolis 16-2-1 (+202)     
5.   *Learning to Live 16-3 (+205)     
6.   *Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 15-3-1 (+130)
7.   *Voices 14-4-1 (+74)       
8.   *Take the Time 14-5 (+96)       
9.   *Scarred 12-4-3 (+65)         
10.   *Home 11-6-2 (+70)             
11.   *Lines in the Sand  11-6-2 (+4) 
12.   *In the Name of God 12-7 (+13)   
13.   Trial of Tears 10-7-2 (+25)         
14.   The Glass Prison 10-7-2 (+9)       
15.   The Spirit Carries On 10-7-2 (-27)     
16.   Finally Free 10-8-1 (+15)         
17.   Illumination Theory 10-8-1 (-3)   
18.   The Count of Tuscany 10-9 (+3) 
19.   Space-Dye Vest 9-9-1 (-52)     
20.   X The Mirror 6-12-1 (-51)     
21.   X Blind Faith 6-12-1 (-64)     
22.   X In the Presence of Enemies 6-13 (-73)
23.   X Under a Glass Moon 5-12-2 (-110)   
24.   X Fatal Tragedy 5-14 (-110)       
25.   X Stream of Consciousness 5-14 (-112) 
26.   X Bridges in the Sky 3-15-1 (-137)   
27.   X Disappear 3-16 (-111)       
28.   X Beyond This Life 3-16 (-137)   
29.   X The Great Debate 2-17 (-132)   
30.   X Pull Me Under 2-17 (-193)
31.   X Hell’s Kitchen 1-18 (-151) 
32.   X Overture 1928  1-18 (-176)

[fischermasamune]

For Tier 3, TDEN is paired with FFH on the last round, and will surpass it if it wins. But there's a catch: if AFTR wins, TDEN has no chances of making it to top 16.
Although I prefer TDEN over FFH or AFTR, I voted TDEN and AFTR on round 20, making it harder for TDEN than it would be with a "strategical vote".

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 20 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43656.0

1.   Beneath the Surface defeats Enigma Machine 15-7
2.   The Silent Man defeats A Rite of Passage 17-5
3.   Hollow Years defeats Raise the Knife 15-7
4.   The Killing Hand defeats Just Let Me Breathe 20-1
5.   Anna Lee defeats Forsaken  13-9
6.   Ytse Jam defeats Only a Matter of Time 12-7
7.   Vacant defeats To Live Forever 13-8
8.   Repentance defeats The Answer Lies Within 13-9
9.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Never Enough 14-8
10.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Wither 13-9
11.   The Looking Glass defeats Constant Motion 16-6
12.   I Walk Beside You defeats False Awakening Suite 13-9
13.   Honor Thy Father defeats New Millennium 12-10
14.   As I Am defeats A Fortune in Lies 12-9
15.   Along for the Ride defeats Eve 12-10
16.   The Dark Eternal Night defeats Far From Heaven 12-10



Division 3 Rankings after the regular season has concluded (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament.  Red songs are demoted from Division 3 and join the outsider's list). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record have been applied.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *As I Am 20-0 (+218) 
2.   *Vacant 18-1-1 (+146)               
3.   *Honor Thy Father 16-2-2 (+107) 
4.   *Lost Not Forgotten 16-3-1 (+141)   
5.   *The Killing Hand 15-2-3 (+95)   
6.   *The Shattered Fortress 16-4 (+128) 
7.   *Hollow Years 16-4 (+110)         
8.   *The Looking Glass 15-5 (+65)     
9.   *Beneath the Surface 14-6 (+64)   
10.   *Wither 13-6-1 (+69)     
11.   *New Millennium 13-7 (+26)     
12.   *Ytse Jam 12-7-1 (+39)         
13.    *Raise the Knife 12-8 (+33)       
14.   *The Silent Man 11-8-1 (+75) 
15.   *A Fortune In Lies 10-10 (+1)     
16.   *Along for the Ride 10-10 (-40)     
17.   X The Dark Eternal Night 9-10-1 (-13)
18.   X Far From Heaven 9-10-1 (-20) 
19.   X I Walk Beside You 8-11-1 (-50)   
20.   X Eve 8-12 (-2)               
21.   X Repentance 8-12 (-48)       
22.   X To Live Forever 7-12-1 (-22)   
23.   X Forsaken 7-13 (-53)     
24.   X Constant Motion 6-13-1 (-44)     
25.   X False Awakening Suite 6-14 (-84)   
26.   X Only a Matter of Time 4-14-2 (-90) 
27.   X Anna Lee 4-15-1 (-73)   
28.   X The Answer Lies Within 3-16-1 (-92)
29.   X Never  Enough 3-17 (-87) 
30.   X Enigma Machine 1-18-1 (-125)
31.   X A Rite of Passage 0-20 (-193)
32.   X Just Let Me Breathe 0-20 (-253)

Tiebreakers
#4 – LNF & TKH tied 12-12 in Week 15. LNF claims the #4 seed based on a better point differential.
#6 – TSF defeated HY 13-11 in Wek 15.
#15 – AFIL & AFTR did not meet during the season. AFIL claims the #15 seed based on a better point differential.
#17 – TDEN defeated FFM 12-20 in Week 20.
#20 – Eve & Repentance did not meet during the season. Eve finished in 20th place based on a better point differential.

The Division 3 Tournament will begin after the conclusion of the Album Tournaments.
 

[ToT-147]

If those four are going to join the outsider's list I guess they won't participate again until next year's league, am I right?..

Because since the moment I saw the last two (ARoP and JLMB) weren't winning a single match I wanted to see them confronting each other, to know which would win.. I'm now considering doing that poll... I mean, only if you won't..

[Destiny Of Chaos]

I'm thinking about having a survivor to determine the 4 songs that would be "promoted" to Division 3. Suppose I could include the 4 bottom songs in that.

[ToT-147]

Ok.. I'll wait then..

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 20 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43661.0

1.   Surrounded defeats Another Day 16-8
2.   Misunderstood defeats Behind the Veil 16-8
3.   These Walls defeats This is the Life 15-9
4.   The Root of All Evil defeats The Enemy Inside 15-7
5.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Innocence Faded 13-11
6.   Wait for Sleep defeats Afterlife 18-6
7.   Lie defeats Outcry 13-11
8.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Through Her Eyes 15-9
9.   Panic Attack defeats The Best of Times 15-8
10.   Caught in a Web & A Nightmare to Remember tie 12-12
11.   Endless Sacrifice defeats The Dance of Eternity 15-9
12.   6:00 defeats This Dying Soul 14-10
13.   Peruvian Skies defeats The Bigger Picture 13-11
14.   Surrender to Reason defeats One Last Time 13-11
15.   Erotomania defeats On the Backs of Angels  14-10
16.   Strange Déjà vu & Sacrificed Sons  tie 12-12




Division 2 Rankings after the regular season has concluded (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament.  Red songs are demoted from Division 2 and sent to Division 3). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record have been applied.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *Surrounded 20-0 (+234)   
2.   *Misunderstood 19-1 (+162)
3.   *Endless Sacrifice 17-3 (+126)     
4.   *Strange déjà vu 15-3-2 (+137)   
5.   *Lifting Shadows off a Dream 16-4 (+61)   
6.   *The Root of All Evil 15-5 (+70)     
7.   *The Ministry of Lost Souls 14-6 (+24)   
8.   *These Walls 13-6-1 (+76)       
9.   *Wait For Sleep 13-7 (+62)       
10.   *Another Day 13-7 (+44)       
11.   *Erotomania 12-7-1 (+47)           
12.   *6:00 12-8 (+15)                   
13.   *This Dying Soul 12-8 (+3)         
14.   *Surrender to Reason 12-8 (+51) 
15.   *Sacrificed Sons 11-8-1 (+65)         
16.   *The Dance of Eternity 10-8-2 (+13)   
17.   Caught in a Web 10-8-2 (+3)   
18.   The Bigger Picture 10-9-1 (+28)   
19.   X Lie 10-10 (+52)                 
20.   X Outcry 9-11 (-32)       
21.   X On the Backs of Angels 8-12 (-36)
22.   X Peruvian Skies 8-12 (-43)     
23.   X This is the Life 7-13 (-21)     
24.   X A Nightmare to Remember 5-12-3 (-6)
25.   X Panic Attack 6-14 (-26)   
26.   X Innocence Faded 5-15 (-77)
27.   X The Enemy Inside 4-16 (-166)
28.   X One Last Time 3-16-1 (-103)   
29.   X Through Her Eyes 3-17 (-192)   
30.   X Behind the Veil 1-19 (-83) 
31.   X The Best of Times 0-20 (-234)
32.   X Afterlife 0-20 (-250)



Tiebreakers
#4 – SDV & LSOAD did not meet during the season. SDV claims the #4 seed based on a better point differential.
#9 – AD defeated WFS 13-11 in Week 20.
#12 – TDS defeated STR 16-13 in Week 2, 6:00 defeated STR 16-15 in Week 10, 6:00 defeated TDS 14-10 in Week 20
#13 - TDS defeated STR 16-13 in Week 2.
#16 - TDOE defeated CIAW 17-12 in Week 8.
#21 - OTBOA & PS did not meet during the season. OTBOA finished in 21st place based on a better point differential.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 20 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43666.0

1.   #1 Octavarium  defeats #9 Scarred 20-6
2.   #2 Breaking All Illusions defeats #12  In the Name of God 15-11
3.   #3 A Change of Seasons defeats Stream of Consciousness 19-6
4.   #8 Take the Time defeats Pull Me Under 22-3
5.   #10 Home  defeats Hell’s Kitchen 15-10
6.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Beyond This Life 14-11
7.   Overture 1928 defeats Under a Glass Moon 13-12
8.   Fatal Tragedy deeats Blind Faith 16-9
9.   Bridges in the Sky & The Great Debate tie 13-13
10.   #6 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Disappear 18-8
11.   #11 Lines in the Sand defeats The Count of Tuscany 16-9
12.   #13 Trial of Tears defeats The Mirror 14-11
13.   #4 Metropolis defeats #14 The Glass Prison 18-8
14.   #5 Learning to Live defeats  #15 The Spirit Carries On 19-5
15.   #7 Voices defeats Illumination Theory 14-11
16.   #16  Finally Free defeats Space-Dye Vest 16-9





Division 1 Rankings after the regular season has concluded (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament.  Red songs are demoted from Division 1 and sent to Division 2). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record have been applied.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.


Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   *Octavarium 20-0 (+299) 
2.   *Breaking All Illusions 19-1 (+253) 
3.   *A Change of Seasons 18-2 (+223)
4.   *Metropolis 17-2-1 (+212)     
5.   *Learning to Live 17-3 (+219)     
6.   *Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 16-3-1 (+140)
7.   *Voices 15-4-1 (+77)       
8.   *Take the Time 15-5 (+115)       
9.   *Scarred 12-5-3 (+51)         
10.   *Home 12-6-2 (+75)             
11.   *Lines in the Sand  12-6-2 (+11) 
12.   *Trial of Tears 11-7-2 (+28)           
13.   *In the Name of God 12-8 (+9)   
14.   *Finally Free 11-8-1 (+22)           
15.   *The Glass Prison 10-8-2 (-1)       
16.   *The Spirit Carries On 10-8-2 (-41)     
17.   X Illumination Theory 10-9-1 (-6)   
18.   X The Count of Tuscany 10-10 (-4) 
19.   X Space-Dye Vest 9-10-1 (-59)       
20.   X In the Presence of Enemies 7-13 (-70)
21.   X The Mirror 6-13-1 (-54)     
22.   X Blind Faith 6-13-1 (-71)     
23.   X Under a Glass Moon 5-13-2 (-111)   
24.   X Fatal Tragedy 6-14 (-103)       
25.   X Stream of Consciousness 5-15 (-125) 
26.   X Bridges in the Sky 3-15-2 (-137)   
27.   X Disappear 3-17 (-121)       
28.   X Beyond This Life 3-17 (-140)   
29.   X The Great Debate 2-17-1 (-132)   
30.   X Pull Me Under 2-18 (-212)
31.   X Overture 1928  2-18 (-175)
32.   X Hell’s Kitchen 1-19 (-156) 

Tiebreakers
#10 – Home & LITS did not meet during the season. Home claims the #10 seed based on a better point differential.
#12 – ToT & ItNoG did not meet during the season. ToT claims the #12 seed based on a better point differential.
#5 – TGP defeated TSCO 14-12 in Week 17.
#21 – TM & BF did not meet during the season. TM finished in 21st place based on a better point differential.
#23 – UaGM defeated FT 12-11 in Week 19.
#27 – Disappear & BTL did not meet during the season. Disappear finished in 27th  place based on a better point differential.
#30 – PMU defeated O.1928  14-10 in Week 18.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

If you're still with us after 20 weeks, thank you!

The album tournaments will begin shortly. The album tournaments are exhibitions, and have no bearing on song's records or standings, as the Album Tournaments will feature songs from the 3 divisions, and the songs that weren't included in the league this year.  The album tournaments will be ran in reverse order of the list below. I had to find a simple way to rank the albums, so I just ranked them by percentage of songs each had in Division 1 they are as follows:

1.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence = 83%
2.   Images & Words = 63%
3.   Scenes from a Memory = 55%
4.   Awake = 36%
5.   Train of Thought = 29%
6.   Falling Into Infinity = 27%
7.   A Dramatic Turn of Events = 22%
8.   Black Clouds & Silver Linings = 17%
9.   Systematic Chaos = 14%
10.   Octavarium = 13%
11.   Dream Theater = 11%
12.   When Dream & Day Unite = 0%,

We will do a tournament for the albums themselves. They will be seeded as shown above.


At some point, a survivor will begin to determine which four songs will be promoted to Division 3.

After the Album Tournaments have concluded, the Three Divisional Tournaments will begin, and we'll crown three champions for the 2015 season. Also,  the songs that make it to the final four of the Division 2 and 3 tournaments will be promoted to the next highest division for next year.

[erwinrafael]

Thanks, Doc!

[Destiny Of Chaos]

 

[hefdaddy42]

Awesome, let's get it on!

[Dublagent66]

IT mathematically eliminated.  Excellent.  Couldn't have happened to a better song.