DT the League 2015 - Results, Standings and Discussion Thread.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 11 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43311.0

1.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats The Dance of Eternity 15-10
2.   6:00 defeats Afterlife 18-7
3.   The Root of All Evil defeats Sacrificed Sons 13-12
4.   Outcry defeats One Last Time 13-11
5.   These Walls defeats The Bigger Picture 15-10
6.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats On the Backs of Angels 14-11
7.   Misunderstood defeats Panic Attack 16-9
8.   Another Day defeats Endless Sacrifice 13-12 
9.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Behind the Veil 14-11
10.   Erotoamania defeats Caught in a Web 16-9
11.   Surrounded defeats This is the Life 19-6
12.   Surrender to Reason defeats The Best of Times 18-7
13.   The Enemy Inside defeats Through Her Eyes 16-9
14.   This Dying Soul defeats Peruvian Skies 13-12
15.   Lie defeats Innocence Faded 16-9
16.   Wait For Sleep defeats Strange Déjà vu 13-12


Division 2 Rankings after Week 11 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   Surrounded 11-0 (+133)   
2.   Misunderstood 11-0 (+107)
3.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 11-0 (+28)
4.   Strange déjà vu 9-2 (+95)
5.   These Walls 9-2 (+59)   
6.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 9-2 (+39)   
7.   Endless Sacrifice 8-3 (+56) 
8.   The Root of All Evil 8-3 (+40)   
9.   6:00 8-3 (+33)           
10.   Another Day 7-4 (+31) 
11.   Surrender to Reason 7-4 (+29)
12.   Erotomania 6-4-1 (+26)       
13.   The Bigger Picture 6-4-1 (+15)   
14.   The Dance of Eternity 6-4-1 (+13)
15.   Sacrificed Sons 6-5 (+52)     
16.   Wait For Sleep 6-5 (+19)     
17.   Peruvian Skies 6-5 (+5) 
18.   This Dying Soul 6-5 (-1)   
19.   Caught in a Web 5-5-1 (-14)
20.   Lie 4-7 (+9)           
21.   This is the Life 4-7 (-16)   
22.   On the Backs of Angels 4-7 (-36)
23.   Outcry 4-7 (-36)     
24.   Panic Attack 3-8 (-8) 
25.   Innocence Faded 3-8 (-38)
26.   A Nightmare to Remember 2-8-1 (-19)
27.   The Enemy Inside 2-9 (-91)
28.   Behind the Veil 1-10 (-34) 
29.   Through Her Eyes 1-10 (-116)
30.   One Last Time 0-10-1 (-91)
31.   The Best of Times 0-11 (-143)
32.   Afterlife 0-11 (-150)
 

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 11 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43317.0

1.   #1 Octavarium defeats  #16 Trial of Tears 24-5
2.   #2 A Change of Seasons defeats #14 Finally Free 22-7
3.   #3 Breaking All Illusions defeats Beyond This Life 24-5
4.   #13 Home defeats In the Presence of Enemies 17-11
5.   Blind Faith defeats Under a Glass Moon 17-12
6.   #12 The Spirit Carries On defeats Overture 1928 18-9
7.   #5 Take the Time defeats Stream of Consciousness 18-10
8.   #7 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Glass Prison 16-13
9.   #8 Voices defeats Hell’s Kitchen 20-8
10.   #10 Space-Dye Vest defeats The Great Debate 15-14
11.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Disappear 18-11
12.   The Mirror defeats  #15  The Count of Tuscany 15-13
13.   #11 Lines in the Sand defeats In the Name of God 16-13
14.   #9 Learning to Live defeats Bridges in the Sky 23-6
15.   Illumination Theory defeats Pull Me Under 18-10
16.   #6 Metropolis defeats #4 Scarred 19-8


Division 1 Rankings after Week 11 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   Octavarium 11-0 (+166) 
2.   A Change of Seasons 11-0 (+141)
3.   Breaking All Illusions 10-1 (+161)
4.   Take the Time 9-2 (+80)       
5.   Scarred 9-2 (+49)       
6.   Metropolis 8-2-1 (+98)   
7.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 8-2-1 (+49)
8.   Voices 8-2-1 (+48)     
9.   Learning to Live 8-3 (+89)   
10.   Lines in the Sand  8-3 (+11) 
11.   Space-Dye Vest 8-3 (+11)   
12.   The Spirit Carries On 7-3-1 (+5)   
13.   Home 7-4 (+43)       
14.   The Count of Tuscany 6-5 (+1) 
15.   Finally Free 6-5 (0)       
16.   Trial of Tears 5-6 (-2)     
17.   The Glass Prison 4-5-2 (-5)   
18.   In the Name of God 5-6 (-8)
19.   Illumination Theory 5-6 (-13) 
20.   In the Presence of Enemies 5-6 (-18)
21.   The Mirror 4-6-1 (-10)   
22.   Blind Faith 4-6-1 (-37)   
23.   Fatal Tragedy 4-7 (-46)     
24.   Stream of Consciousness 4-7 (-64) 
25.   Under a Glass Moon 2-8-1 (-68)
26.   Disappear 2-9 (-61)   
27.   The Great Debate 1-10 (-86)
28.   Beyond This Life 1-10 (-89)
29.   Hell’s Kitchen 1-10 (-96) 
30.   Bridges in the Sky 0-10-1 (-104)
31.   Overture 1928  0-11 (-99)
32.   Pull Me Under 0-11 (-146)

[hefdaddy42]

Regardless of your opinion of that, the format is what it is and won't be changed.

Why not? For what I've read, it has changed from 2014 to 2015, so why can't the present format be challenged?

It was tweaked by the guy who came up with it, to add an interesting twist.  It's up to him.  It's his thing.  It's not up for open challenges from the general population.

This is the game.  If you don't like it, then by all means, don't participate.  But I don't understand your line of posting on this topic.

[fischermasamune]

It was tweaked by the guy who came up with it, to add an interesting twist.  It's up to him.  It's his thing.  It's not up for open challenges from the general population.

This is the game.  If you don't like it, then by all means, don't participate.  But I don't understand your line of posting on this topic.

It was just a suggestion on a way of correct what some people (me inclusive) may see as an inbalance. I'm enjoying and following the game, but even good things can be aprimorated. That can be thought as a form of support.

Anyway, it's not like I'll fight fiercely for the change, or that I'll start my own league to compete with this one. It was merely a comment on an internet forum exposing my point of view and sharing some ideas.

Peace!

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 12 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43340.0

1.   The Silent Man defeats I Walk Beside You 17-8
2.   A Fortune in Lies defeats The Dark Eternal Night 16-8
3.   New Millennium defeats Constant Motion 13-11
4.   Honor Thy Father defeats Lost Not Forgotten 14-11
5.   Repentance defeats False Awakening Suite 13-12
6.   Vacant defeats Far From Heaven 18-7
7.   The Looking Glass defeats Eve 13-12
8.   Ytse Jam defeats Wither 15-10
9.   Forsaken defeats Never Enough 15-10
10.   The Answer Lies Within defeats Just Let Me Breathe 19-7
11.   Raise the Knife defeats To Live Forever 15-8
12.   Beneath the Surface defeats Along For the Ride 13-12
13.   Only a Matter of Time defeats A Rite of Passage 16-8
14.   Anna Lee defeats Enigma Machine 15-10
15.   The Killing Hand defeated Hollow Years 13-12
16.   As I Am defeated The Shattered Fortress 15-11


Division 3 Rankings after Week 12 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   As I Am 12-0 (+143) 
2.   The Shattered Fortress 11-1 (+103)
3.   The Looking Glass 11-1 (+57)   
4.   Vacant 10-1-1 (+60)            
5.   Lost Not Forgotten 10-2 (+109)
6.   Honor Thy Father 9-1-2 (+73)
7.   Beneath the Surface 10-2 (+59)
8.   Hollow Years 9-3 (+60)     
9.   The Killing Hand 8-2-2 (+37)
10.   Wither 8-3-1 (+53) 
11.   Ytse Jam 8-3-1 (+26)     
12.   New Millennium 8-4 (+14)   
13.   The Silent Man 7-4-1 (+46) 
14.   I Walk Beside You 7-4-1 (-8) 
15.   Far From Heaven 6-5-1 (-2)
16.   Raise the Knife 6-6 (+11)     
17.   Along for the Ride 6-6 (-17)   
18.   A Fortune In Lies 5-7 (-8) 
19.   False Awakening Suite 5-7 (-31) 
20.   Forsaken 5-7 (-31)   
21.   Eve 4-8 (-2)         
22.   Repentance 4-8 (-42) 
23.   The Dark Eternal Night 3-8-1 (-23)
24.   To Live Forever 3-8-1 (-27)   
25.   Constant Motion 2-9-1 (-46)   
26.   The Answer Lies Within 2-9-1 (-57)
27.   Only a Matter of Time 2-9-1 (-75)
28.   Never  Enough 2-10 (-47)
29.   Anna Lee 1-10-1 (-64)
30.   Enigma Machine 0-12 (-75)
31.   A Rite of Passage 0-12 (-128)
32.   Just Let Me Breathe 0-12 (-180)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 12 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43347.0

1.   The Dance of Eternity defeats On the Backs of Angels 16-13
2.   Endless Sacrifice defeats One Last Time 20-9
3.   The Root of All Evil defeats Behind the Veil 18-11
4.   6:00 defeats Erotomania 14-13
5.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats This is the Life 17-12
6.   Surrender to Reason defeats Afterlife 22-6
7.   Sacrificed Sons defeats The Enemy Inside 19-10
8.   Outcry defeats This Dying Soul 17-12
9.   The Bigger Picture defeats Innocence Faded 16-11
10.   Wait For Sleep defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 16-13
11.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Panic Attack 17-11
12.   Another Day defeats Lie 15-13
13.   Peruvian Skies defeats A Nightmare to Remember 15-13
14.   Caught in a Web defeats Through Her Eyes 19-8
15.   Surrounded defeats The Best of Times 24-5
16.   Misunderstood defeats These Walls 17-10


Division 2 Rankings after Week 12 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   Surrounded 12-0 (+152)   
2.   Misunderstood 12-0 (+114)
3.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 11-1 (+25)
4.   Strange déjà vu 10-2 (+101)
5.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 10-2 (+44)   
6.   Endless Sacrifice 9-3 (+67)   
7.   These Walls 9-3 (+52)   
8.   The Root of All Evil 9-3 (+47)   
9.   6:00 9-3 (+34)           
10.   Surrender to Reason 8-4 (+45)
11.   Another Day 8-4 (+33)   
12.   The Bigger Picture 7-4-1 (+20)   
13.   The Dance of Eternity 7-4-1 (+16)
14.   Sacrificed Sons 7-5 (+61)     
15.   Wait For Sleep 7-5 (+22)     
16.   Peruvian Skies 7-5 (+7) 
17.   Erotomania 6-5-1 (+25)       
18.   Caught in a Web 6-5-1 (-3)
19.   This Dying Soul 6-6 (-6)   
20.   Outcry 5-7 (-31)     
21.   Lie 4-8 (+7)           
22.   This is the Life 4-8 (-21)   
23.   On the Backs of Angels 4-8 (-39)
24.   Panic Attack 3-9 (-14) 
25.   Innocence Faded 3-9 (-43)
26.   A Nightmare to Remember 2-9-1 (-21)
27.   The Enemy Inside 2-10 (-100)
28.   Behind the Veil 1-11 (-41) 
29.   Through Her Eyes 1-11 (-127)
30.   One Last Time 0-11-1 (-102)
31.   The Best of Times 0-12 (-162)
32.   Afterlife 0-12 (-166)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 12 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43352.0

1.   2. A Change of Seasons defeats In the Presence of Enemies 22-7
2.   Under a Glass Moon & 13. Home tied at 14-14
3.   Beyond This Life defeats Blind Faith 15-13
4.   5. Scarred & 16. Trial of Tears tied at 14-14
5.   3. Breaking All Illusions defeats Overture 1928 25-4
6.   In the Name of God defeats Disappear 19-10
7.   6. Metropolis defeats Stream of Consciousness 22-6
8.   12. The Spirit Carries On defeats Hell’s Kitchen 16-12
9.   8. Voices defeats Fatal Tragedy 17-11
10.   1. Octavarium defeats 15. Finally Free 23-6
11.   The Mirror defeats The Great Debate 16-13
12.   14. The Count of Tuscany defeats The Glass Prison 15-13
13.   7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Pull Me Under 22-6
14.   9. Learning to Live defeats 10. Lines in the Sand 23-5
15.   Illumination Theory defeats Bridges in the Sky 17-12
16.   4. Take the Time defeats 11. Space-Dye Vest 17-11


Division 1 Rankings after Week 12 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   Octavarium 12-0 (+183) 
2.   A Change of Seasons 12-0 (+156)
3.   Breaking All Illusions 11-1 (+182)
4.   Take the Time 10-2 (+86)       
5.   Metropolis 9-2-1 (+114)   
6.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 9-2-1 (+65)
7.   Voices 9-2-1 (+54)     
8.   Scarred 9-2-1 (+49)       
9.   Learning to Live 9-3 (+107)   
10.   The Spirit Carries On 8-3-1 (+9)   
11.   Space-Dye Vest 8-4 (+5)     
12.   Lines in the Sand  8-4 (-7) 
13.   Home 7-4-1 (+43)       
14.   The Count of Tuscany 7-5 (+3) 
15.   In the Name of God 6-6 (+1)
16.   Illumination Theory 6-6 (-8) 
17.   Finally Free 6-6 (-17)       
18.   Trial of Tears 5-6-1 (-2)       
19.   The Mirror 5-6-1 (-7)   
20.   The Glass Prison 4-6-2 (-7)   
21.   In the Presence of Enemies 5-7 (-33)
22.   Blind Faith 4-7-1 (-39)   
23.   Fatal Tragedy 4-8 (-52)     
24.   Stream of Consciousness 4-8 (-80) 
25.   Under a Glass Moon 2-8-2 (-68)
26.   Disappear 2-10 (-70)   
27.   Beyond This Life 2-10 (-87)
28.   The Great Debate 1-11 (-89)
29.   Hell’s Kitchen 1-11 (-100) 
30.   Bridges in the Sky 0-11-1 (-109)
31.   Overture 1928  0-12 (-120)
32.   Pull Me Under 0-12 (-162)

[hefdaddy42]

Awesome to see Vacant doing so well in Div. 3.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Awesome to see Vacant doing so well in Div. 3.

 



Division 3, Week 13 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43375.0

1.   New Millennium defeats The Silent Man 13-12
2.   Honor Thy Father defeats A Fortune in Lies 13-11
3.   As I Am defeats I Walk Beside You 21-5
4.   The Dark Eternal Night defeats False Awakening Suite 16-10
5.   Constant Motion defeats Far From Heaven 14-10
6.   Wither defeats The Shattered Fortress 14-12
7.   Repentance defeats Never Enough 13-11
8.   Vacant defeats The Answer Lies Within 19-7
9.   Eve defeats To Live Forever 14-10
10.   Ytse Jam defeats Along For the Ride 18-7
11.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Forsaken 13-12
12.   Anna Lee defeats Just Let Me Breathe 20-4
13.   The Killing Hand defeats Raise the Knife 15-9
14.   Hollow Years defeats Beneath the Surface 13-11
15.   Enigma Machine defeats A Rite of Passage 13-9
16.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats The Looking Glass 14-11


Division 3 Rankings after Week 13 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   As I Am 13-0 (+159) 
2.   Vacant 11-1-1 (+72)             
3.   Lost Not Forgotten 11-2 (+112) 
4.   The Shattered Fortress 11-2 (+101)
5.   Honor Thy Father 10-1-2 (+75)
6.   The Looking Glass 11-2 (+54)   
7.   Hollow Years 10-3 (+62)       
8.   Beneath the Surface 10-3 (+57)
9.   The Killing Hand 9-2-2 (+43)
10.   Wither 9-3-1 (+55) 
11.   Ytse Jam 9-3-1 (+37)     
12.   New Millennium 9-4 (+15)   
13.   The Silent Man 7-5-1 (+45) 
14.   I Walk Beside You 7-5-1 (-24) 
15.   Far From Heaven 6-6-1 (-6)
16.   Raise the Knife 6-7 (+5)     
17.   Along for the Ride 6-7 (-28)   
18.   Eve 5-8 (+2)         
19.   A Fortune In Lies 5-8 (-10) 
20.   Forsaken 5-8 (-32)     
21.   False Awakening Suite 5-8 (-37) 
22.   Repentance 5-8 (-40) 
23.   The Dark Eternal Night 4-8-1 (-29)
24.   To Live Forever 3-9-1 (-31)   
25.   Constant Motion 3-9-1 (-42)   
26.   Only a Matter of Time 3-9-1 (-74) 
27.   Anna Lee 2-10-1 (-48)
28.   The Answer Lies Within 2-10-1 (-69)
29.   Never  Enough 2-11 (-47) 
30.   Enigma Machine 1-12 (-71)
31.   A Rite of Passage 0-13 (-132)
32.   Just Let Me Breathe 0-13 (-196)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 13 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43385.0


1.   The Root of All Evil defeats The Dance of Eternity 13-12
2.   6:00 defeats One Last Time 16-8
3.   On the Backs of Angels defeats Afterlife 17-7
4.   Misunderstood defeats Sacrificed Sons 13-12
5.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Outcry 17-7
6.   The Bigger Picture defeats Behind the Veil 17-7
7.   Erotomania defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 13-11
8.   This is the Life defeats  Panic Attack 14-11
9.   Surrender to Reason defeats Another Day 12-11
10.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats The Enemy Inside 19-6
11.   This Dying Soul defeats Caught in a Web 12-11
12.   Surrounded defeats Innocence Faded 19-5
13.   Wait For Sleep defeats The Best of Times 16-8
14.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Through Her Eyes 20-4
15.   Lie defeats Peruvian Skies 15-9
16.   These Walls defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 13-11


Division 2 Rankings after Week 13 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   Surrounded 13-0 (+166)   
2.   Misunderstood 13-0 (+115)
3.   Strange déjà vu 11-2 (+117)   
4.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 11-2 (+23)
5.   Endless Sacrifice 10-3 (+77)   
6.   These Walls 10-3 (+54)   
7.   The Root of All Evil 10-3 (+48)   
8.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 10-3 (+42)   
9.   6:00 10-3 (+42)             
10.   Surrender to Reason 9-4 (+46)
11.   The Bigger Picture 8-4-1 (+30)   
12.   Another Day 8-5 (+32)   
13.   Wait For Sleep 8-5 (+30)     
14.   Erotomania 7-5-1 (+27)         
15.   The Dance of Eternity 7-5-1 (+15)
16.   Sacrificed Sons 7-6 (+61)     
17.   Peruvian Skies 7-6 (+1) 
18.   This Dying Soul 7-6 (-5)   
19.   Caught in a Web 6-6-1 (-4)
20.   Lie 5-8 (+13)             
21.   This is the Life 5-8 (-18)   
22.   On the Backs of Angels 5-8 (-29)
23.   Outcry 5-8 (-41)       
24.   A Nightmare to Remember 3-9-1 (-8)
25.   Panic Attack 3-10 (-17) 
26.   Innocence Faded 3-10 (-57)
27.   The Enemy Inside 2-11 (-113)
28.   Behind the Veil 1-12 (-51) 
29.   Through Her Eyes 1-12 (-143)
30.   One Last Time 0-12-1 (-110)
31.   The Best of Times 0-13 (-170)
32.   Afterlife 0-13 (-176)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 13 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43389.0

1.   #15 In the Name of God defeats In the Presence of Enemies 17-9
2.   The Glass Prison defeats The Mirror 18-8
3.   #9 Learning to Live defeats Fatal Tragedy 21-5
4.   #4 Take the Time defeats  #13 Home 15-10
5.   #11 Space-Dye Vest defeats Pull Me Under 14-13
6.   #16 Illumination Theory defeats Hell’s Kitchen 18-9
7.   Bridges in the Sky defeats Stream of Consciousness  15-11
8.   #6 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Overture 1928 21-5
9.   #12 Lines in the Sand & #8 Scarred tied 13-13
10.   #14 The Count of Tuscany defeats Beyond This Life 15-11
11.   #1 Octavarium defeats Disappear 21-6
12.   Under a Glass Moon defeats The Great Debate 16-10
13.   #10 The Spirit Carries On &  Finally Free tie 13-13
14.   #5 Metropolis defeats Blind Faith 17-9
15.   #3 Breaking All Illusions defeats Trial of Tears 17-9
16.   #2 A Change of Seasons defeats #7 Voices 20-6


Division 1 Rankings after Week 13 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2).

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   Octavarium 13-0 (+198) 
2.   A Change of Seasons 13-0 (+170)
3.   Breaking All Illusions 12-1 (+190)
4.   Take the Time 11-2 (+91)       
5.   Metropolis 10-2-1 (+122)   
6.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 10-2-1 (+81)
7.   Learning to Live 10-3 (+123)   
8.   Scarred 9-2-2 (+49)       
9.   Voices 9-3-1 (+40)     
10.   The Spirit Carries On 8-3-2 (+9)   
11.   Space-Dye Vest 9-4 (+6)     
12.   Lines in the Sand  8-4-1 (-7) 
13.   Home 7-5-1 (+38)       
14.   The Count of Tuscany 8-5 (+7) 
15.   In the Name of God 7-6 (+9)
16.   Illumination Theory 7-6 (+1) 
17.   Finally Free 6-6-1 (-17)       
18.   The Glass Prison 5-6-2 (+3)     
19.   Trial of Tears 5-7-1 (-10)       
20.   The Mirror 5-7-1 (-17)   
21.   In the Presence of Enemies 5-8 (-41)
22.   Blind Faith 4-8-1 (-47)   
23.   Fatal Tragedy 4-9 (-68)     
24.   Stream of Consciousness 4-9 (-76) 
25.   Under a Glass Moon 3-8-2 (-62)
26.   Beyond This Life 2-11 (-83)
27.   Disappear 2-11 (-85)     
28.   Bridges in the Sky 1-11-1 (-105)
29.   The Great Debate 1-12 (-95)
30.   Hell’s Kitchen 1-12 (-109) 
31.   Overture 1928  0-13 (-136)
32.   Pull Me Under 0-13 (-163)

[erwinrafael]

Illumination Theory finally with a winning record and in + category. 

[RoeDent]

Good to see Anna Lee take the W this week. Out of the red zone for the time being.

[?]

I'm surprised Eve beat TLF, but I can't complain because I also voted for it.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 14 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43415.0

1.   A Fortune in Lies defeats I Walk Beside You 14-8
2.   Hollow Years defeats The Silent Man 14-9
3.   Anna Lee defeats A Rite of Passage 16-7
4.   The Killing Hand defeats Enigma Machine 16-6
5.   Beneath the Surface defeats Only a Matter of Time 12-10
6.   Raise the Knife defeats Along For the Ride 14-9
7.   To Live Forever defeats Just Let Me Breathe 15-7
8.   Wither defeats Eve 14-9
9.   Forsaken defeats The Answer Lies Within 13-10
10.   Ytse Jam defeats Never Enough 14-9
11.   Vacant defeats The Looking Glass 13-10
12.   Far From Heaven defeats Repentance  12-11
13.   The Shattered Fortress defeats False Awakening Suite 19-4
14.   Honor Thy Father defeats Constant Motion 15-8
15.   New Millennium defeats The Dark Eternal Night 12-10
16.   As I Am defeats Lost Not Forgotten  12-11


Division 3 Rankings after Week 14 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *As I Am 14-0 (+160) 
2.   *Vacant 12-1-1 (+75)               
3.   The Shattered Fortress 12-2 (+116) 
4.   Honor Thy Father 11-1-2 (+82)
5.   Lost Not Forgotten 11-3 (+111) 
6.   Hollow Years 11-3 (+67)       
7.   Beneath the Surface 11-3 (+59)
8.   The Killing Hand 10-2-2 (+53)
9.   The Looking Glass 11-3 (+51)   
10.   Wither 10-3-1 (+60) 
11.   Ytse Jam 10-3-1 (+42)     
12.   New Millennium 10-4 (+17)   
13.   The Silent Man 7-6-1 (+40) 
14.   Far From Heaven 7-6-1 (-5) 
15.   I Walk Beside You 7-6-1 (-30) 
16.   Raise the Knife 7-7 (+10)     
17.   A Fortune In Lies 6-8 (-4)   
18.   Forsaken 6-8 (-29)     
19.   Along for the Ride 6-8 (-33)   
20.   Eve 5-9 (-3)         
21.   Repentance 5-9 (-41)   
22.   False Awakening Suite 5-9 (-52)   
23.   To Live Forever 4-9-1 (-23)   
24.   The Dark Eternal Night 4-9-1 (-31)
25.   Constant Motion 3-10-1 (-49)   
26.   Only a Matter of Time 3-10-1 (-76) 
27.   Anna Lee 3-10-1 (-39)
28.   The Answer Lies Within 2-11-1 (-72)
29.   Never  Enough 2-12 (-52) 
30.   Enigma Machine 1-13 (-81)
31.   X A Rite of Passage 0-14 (-141)
32.   X Just Let Me Breathe 0-14 (-204)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 14 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43418.0

1.   Sacrificed Sons defeats The Dance of Eternity 13-10
2.   Outcry defeats Afterlife 16-7
3.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats The Bigger Picture 14-9
4.   6:00 defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 13-10
5.   The Root of All Evil defeats Panic Attack 13-10
6.   Another Day defeats One Last Time 13-10
7.   These Walls defeats A Nightmare to Remember 15-8
8.   Caught in a Web defeats On the Backs of Angels 12-11
9.   Endless Sacrifice defeats The Best of Times 18-5
10.   Through Her Eyes defeats Behind the Veil 12-11
11.   Erotomania defeats Peruvian Skies 13-10
12.   Lie defeats This is the Life 12-11
13.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Surrender to Reason 13-10
14.   Wait for Sleep defeats The Enemy Inside 18-5
15.   This Dying Soul defeats Innocence Faded 12-11
16.   Surrounded defeats Misunderstood 14-9 


Division 2 Rankings after Week 14 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *Surrounded 14-0 (+171)   
2.   Misunderstood 13-1 (+110)
3.   Strange déjà vu 12-2 (+120)   
4.   Endless Sacrifice 11-3 (+90)   
5.   These Walls 11-3 (+61)   
6.   The Root of All Evil 11-3 (+51)   
7.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 11-3 (+47)   
8.   6:00 11-3 (+45)             
9.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 11-3 (+20)
10.   Surrender to Reason 9-5 (+43)
11.   Wait For Sleep 9-5 (+43)     
12.   Another Day 9-5 (+35)     
13.   Erotomania 8-5-1 (+30)         
14.   The Bigger Picture 8-5-1 (+25)   
15.   Sacrificed Sons 8-6 (+64)       
16.   This Dying Soul 8-6 (-4)     
17.   The Dance of Eternity 7-6-1 (+12)
18.   Caught in a Web 7-6-1 (-3)
19.   Peruvian Skies 7-7 (-2)   
20.   Lie 6-8 (+14)               
21.   Outcry 6-8 (-32)       
22.   This is the Life 5-9 (-19)   
23.   On the Backs of Angels 5-9 (-30)
24.   A Nightmare to Remember 3-10-1 (-15)
25.   Panic Attack 3-11 (-20) 
26.   Innocence Faded 3-11 (-58)
27.   The Enemy Inside 2-12 (-126)
28.   Through Her Eyes 2-12 (-142) 
29.   X Behind the Veil 1-13 (-52) 
30.   X One Last Time 0-13-1 (-113)
31.   X The Best of Times 0-14 (-183)
32.   X Afterlife 0-14 (-185)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 14 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43425.0

1.   The Glass Prison defeats Pull Me Under 15-10
2.   The Great Debate defeats Overture 1928 14-11
3.   The Mirror defeats Bridges in the Sky 16-9
4.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Disappear 14-11
5.   Finally Free defeats Blind Faith 16-9
6.   Trial of Tears & #13  Home draw 12-12
7.   #7 Learning to Live defeats In the Presence of Enemies 20-5
8.   #15 In the Name of God defeats #16 Illumination Theory 13-11
9.   #6 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Fatal Tragedy  19-6
10.   #14 The Count of Tuscany defeats Hell’s Kitchen 14-11
11.   #4 Take the Time defeats Beyond This Life 18-6
12.   #5 Metropolis defeats Under a Glass Moon 23-2
13.   #12 Lines in the Sand & #11 Space-Dye Vest draw 13-13
14.   #1 Octavarium defeats #10 The Spirit Carries On 20-5
15.   #9 Voices defeats #8 Scarred  13-12
16.   #3 Breaking All Illusions defeats #2 A Change of Seasons 13-12

Division 1 Rankings after Week 14 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.
* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   *Octavarium 14-0 (+213) 
2.   Breaking All Illusions 13-1 (+191) 
3.   A Change of Seasons 13-1 (+169)
4.   Take the Time 12-2 (+103)       
5.   Metropolis 11-2-1 (+143)   
6.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 11-2-1 (+94)
7.   Learning to Live 11-3 (+138)   
8.   Voices 10-3-1 (+41)       
9.   Scarred 9-3-2 (+48)       
10.   Space-Dye Vest 9-4-1 (+6)     
11.   The Count of Tuscany 9-5 (+10) 
12.   The Spirit Carries On 8-4-2 (-6)   
13.   Lines in the Sand  8-4-2 (-7) 
14.   Home 7-5-2 (+38)       
15.   In the Name of God 8-6 (+11)
16.   Finally Free 7-6-1 (-10)       
17.   The Glass Prison 6-6-2 (+8)     
18.   Illumination Theory 7-7 (-1) 
19.   The Mirror 6-7-1 (-10)     
20.   Trial of Tears 5-7-2 (-10)       
21.   In the Presence of Enemies 5-9 (-56)
22.   Stream of Consciousness 5-9 (-73) 
23.   Blind Faith 4-9-1 (-54)     
24.   Fatal Tragedy 4-10 (-81)     
25.   Under a Glass Moon 3-9-2 (-83)
26.   Disappear 2-12 (-88)       
27.   The Great Debate 2-12 (-92)
28.   Beyond This Life 2-12 (-95)
29.   Bridges in the Sky 1-12-1 (-112)
30.   X Hell’s Kitchen 1-13 (-112) 
31.   X Overture 1928  0-14 (-139)
32.   X Pull Me Under 0-14 (-168)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 15 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43463.0

1.   The Silent Man defeats Far From Heaven 17-6
2.   The Looking Glass defeats False Awakening Suite 14-9
3.   As I Am defeats Wither 14-10
4.   Honor Thy Father defeats Never Enough 18-5
5.   New Millennium defeats The Answer Lies Within 13-12
6.   A Fortune in Lies defeats To Live Forever 13-10
7.   Along For the Ride defeats I Walk Beside You 15-9
8.   The Dark Eternal Night defeats Only a Matter of Time 19-4
9.   Constant Motion defeats Anna Lee 15-9
10.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Hollow Years 13-11
11.   Repentance defeats Enigma Machine 15-9
12.   Vacant defeats A Rite of Passage 18-6
13.   Beneath the Surface defeats Eve 14-10
14.   Raise the Knife defeats Ytse Jam 13-10
15.   Forsaken defeats Just Let Me Breathe 14-8
16.   Lost Not Forgotten & The Killing Hand tie 12-12


Division 3 Rankings after Week 15 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *As I Am 15-0 (+164) 
2.   *Vacant 13-1-1 (+87)               
3.   *The Shattered Fortress 13-2 (+118) 
4.   *Honor Thy Father 12-1-2 (+95)
5.   Beneath the Surface 12-3 (+63) 
6.   The Looking Glass 12-3 (+56)     
7.   Lost Not Forgotten 11-3-1 (+111) 
8.   The Killing Hand 10-2-3 (+53)
9.   Hollow Years 11-4 (+65)       
10.   New Millennium 11-4 (+18)     
11.   Wither 10-4-1 (+56) 
12.   Ytse Jam 10-4-1 (+39)     
13.   The Silent Man 8-6-1 (+51) 
14.   Raise the Knife 8-7 (+13)     
15.   Far From Heaven 7-7-1 (-16) 
16.   I Walk Beside You 7-7-1 (-36) 
17.   A Fortune In Lies 7-8 (-1)   
18.   Forsaken 7-8 (-23)     
19.   Along for the Ride 7-8 (-27)   
20.   Repentance 6-9 (-35)     
21.   The Dark Eternal Night 5-9-1 (-16)
22.   Eve 5-10 (-7)         
23.   False Awakening Suite 5-10 (-57)   
24.   To Live Forever 4-10-1 (-26)   
25.   Constant Motion 4-10-1 (-43)   
26.   Anna Lee 3-11-1 (-45) 
27.   Only a Matter of Time 3-11-1 (-91) 
28.   The Answer Lies Within 2-12-1 (-73)
29.   X Never  Enough 2-13 (-65) 
30.   X Enigma Machine 1-14 (-87)
31.   X A Rite of Passage 0-15 (-153)
32.   X Just Let Me Breathe 0-15 (-204)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 15 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43476.0

1.   Surrounded defeats The Dance of Eternity 18-9
2.   Caught in a Web defeats The Best of Times 17-9
3.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Through Her Eyes 19-8
4.   Another Day defeats Peruvian Skies 18-9
5.   Lie defeats Panic Attack 18-8
6.   Wait For Sleep defeats The Bigger Picture 15-12
7.   Outcry defeats Innocence Faded 14-13
8.   This Dying Soul defeats Sacrificed Sons 14-13
9.   The Enemy Inside defeats Afterlife 19-7
10.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Surrender to Reason 14-13
11.   This is the Life defeats 6:00 14-12
12.   Erotomania defeats The Root of All Evil 14-13
13.   One Last Time defeats Behind the Veil 15-12
14.   Endless Sacrifice defeats These Walls 15-12
15.   Misunderstood defeats On the Backs of Angels 19-8
16.   Strange Déjà vu defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 14-13


Division 2 Rankings after Week 15 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *Surrounded 15-0 (+180)   
2.   *Misunderstood 14-1 (+121)
3.   Strange déjà vu 13-2 (+121)   
4.   Endless Sacrifice 12-3 (+93)   
5.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream 12-3 (+48)   
6.   These Walls 11-4 (+61)   
7.   The Root of All Evil 11-4 (+50)   
8.   6:00 11-4 (+43)             
9.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 11-4 (+19)
10.   Wait For Sleep 10-5 (+46)     
11.   Another Day 10-5 (+44)     
12.   Erotomania 9-5-1 (+31)         
13.   Surrender to Reason 9-6 (+42)
14.   This Dying Soul 9-6 (-3)     
15.   The Bigger Picture 8-6-1 (+22)   
16.   Caught in a Web 8-6-1 (+5) 
17.   Sacrificed Sons 8-7 (+63)       
18.   The Dance of Eternity 7-7-1 (+3)
19.   Lie 7-8 (+24)               
20.   Peruvian Skies 7-8 (-11)   
21.   Outcry 7-8 (-31)       
22.   This is the Life 6-9 (-17)   
23.   On the Backs of Angels 5-10 (-41)
24.   A Nightmare to Remember 4-10-1 (-4)
25.   X Panic Attack 3-12 (-30) 
26.   X Innocence Faded 3-12 (-59)
27.   X The Enemy Inside 3-12 (-138)
28.   X Through Her Eyes 2-13 (-153) 
29.   X One Last Time 1-13-1 (-110) 
30.   X Behind the Veil 1-14 (-55) 
31.   X The Best of Times 0-15 (-191)
32.   X Afterlife 0-15 (-197)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 15 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43482.0

1.   Pull Me Under defeats Disappear 14-11
2.   12. The Spirit Carries On defeats The Mirror 15-10
3.   6. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats In the Presence of Enemies 20-5
4.   8. Voices defeats The Glass Prison 18-7
5.   13. Lines in the Sand defeats Bridges in the Sky 16-9
6.   Illumination Theory defeats 11. The Count of Tuscany 13-12
7.   7. Learning to Live defeats The Great Debate 23-2
8.   15. In the Name of God defeats 4. Take the Time 13-12
9.   5. Metropolis defeats Fatal Tragedy 20-5
10.   Trial of Tears defeats Hell’s Kitchen 17-8
11.   Blind Faith defeats Stream of Consciousness 15-10
12.   2. Breaking All Illusions defeats 10. Space-Dye Vest 19-6
13.   16. Finally Free defeats Overture 1928 18-7
14.   3. A Change of Seasons defeats Beyond This Life 20-5
15.   1. Octavarium defeats Under a Glass Moon 22-3
16.   14. Home defeats 9. Scarred 13-12


Division 1 Rankings after Week 15 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.
* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   *Octavarium 15-0 (+232) 
2.   *Breaking All Illusions 14-1 (+204) 
3.   *A Change of Seasons 14-1 (+184)
4.   Metropolis 12-2-1 (+158)     
5.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 12-2-1 (+109)
6.   Learning to Live 12-3 (+159)     
7.   Take the Time 12-3 (+102)       
8.   Voices 11-3-1 (+52)       
9.   Scarred 9-4-2 (+47)       
10.   Lines in the Sand  9-4-2 (0) 
11.   The Spirit Carries On 9-4-2 (-1)     
12.   Space-Dye Vest 9-5-1 (-7)     
13.   Home 8-5-2 (+39)         
14.   In the Name of God 9-6 (+12)
15.   The Count of Tuscany 9-6 (+9) 
16.   Finally Free 8-6-1 (+1)       
17.   Illumination Theory 8-7 (0)   
18.   Trial of Tears 6-7-2 (-1)       
19.   The Glass Prison 6-7-2 (-3)     
20.   The Mirror 6-8-1 (-15)     
21.   Blind Faith 5-9-1 (-49)     
22.   In the Presence of Enemies 5-10 (-71)
23.   Stream of Consciousness 5-10 (-78) 
24.   Fatal Tragedy 4-11 (-96)     
25.   Under a Glass Moon 3-10-2 (-102)
26.   X Disappear 2-13 (-91)       
27.   X Beyond This Life 2-13 (-110) 
28.   X The Great Debate 2-13 (-113)
29.   X Bridges in the Sky 1-13-1 (-119)
30.   X Hell’s Kitchen 1-14 (-121) 
31.   X Pull Me Under 1-14 (-165)
32.   X Overture 1928  0-15 (-150)

[Dublagent66]

A very strong top 10.  Good to see. 

[RoeDent]

I'd been paying more attention to which songs were being promoted and relegated from each division, so I kinda forgot there are tournament places to play for as well.

[hefdaddy42]

Kind of sad to see TALW missing the cut of songs to be eliminated in their division.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 16 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43518.0

1.   Raise the Knife defeats Forsaken 14-9
2.   Ytse Jam defeats Beneath the Surface 12-11
3.   Eve defeats A Rite of Passage 13-10
4.   Vacant defeats Enigma Machine 19-4
5.   Hollow Years defeats Repentance 14-9
6.   The Killing Hand defeats The Shattered Fortress 13-10
7.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Anna Lee 15-8
8.   Constant Motion defeats Only a Matter of Time 14-8
9.   Dark Eternal Night defeats Along For the Ride 15-8
10.   To Live Forever defeats I Walk Beside You 13-9
11.   A Fortune in Lies defeats The Answer Lies Within 14-9
12.   New Millennium defeats Never Enough 14-9
13.   Honor Thy Father defeats Wither 12-11
14.   The Silent Man defeats Just Let Me Breathe 17-5
15.   Far From Heaven defeats False Awakening Suite 14-8
16.   As I Am defeats The Looking Glass 17-6


Division 3 Rankings after Week 16 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *As I Am 16-0 (+175) 
2.   *Vacant 14-1-1 (+102)               
3.   *Honor Thy Father 13-1-2 (+96) 
4.   *The Shattered Fortress 13-3 (+115) 
5.   *Lost Not Forgotten 12-3-1 (+118)   
6.   *The Killing Hand 11-2-3 (+56) 
7.   *Hollow Years 12-4 (+70)         
8.   *Beneath the Surface 12-4 (+62) 
9.   *The Looking Glass 12-4 (+45)     
10.   *New Millennium 12-4 (+23)     
11.   Ytse Jam 11-4-1 (+40)       
12.   Wither 10-5-1 (+55) 
13.   The Silent Man 9-6-1 (+63) 
14.   Raise the Knife 9-7 (+18)     
15.   Far From Heaven 8-7-1 (-10) 
16.   A Fortune In Lies 8-8 (+4)   
17.   I Walk Beside You 7-8-1 (-40) 
18.   Forsaken 7-9 (-28)     
19.   Along for the Ride 7-9 (-34)   
20.   The Dark Eternal Night 6-9-1 (-9)
21.   Eve 6-10 (-4)           
22.   Repentance 6-10 (-40)     
23.   To Live Forever 5-10-1 (-22)   
24.   Constant Motion 5-10-1 (-37)     
25.   False Awakening Suite 5-11 (-63)   
26.   X Anna Lee 3-12-1 (-52) 
27.   X Only a Matter of Time 3-12-1 (-97) 
28.   X The Answer Lies Within 2-13-1 (-78)
29.   X Never  Enough 2-14 (-70) 
30.   X Enigma Machine 1-15 (-102)
31.   X A Rite of Passage 0-16 (-156)
32.   X Just Let Me Breathe 0-16 (-216)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 16 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43529.0

1.   The Root of All Evil defeats A Nightmare to Remember 14-10
2.   Sacrificed Sons defeats The Bigger Picture 14-10
3.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Afterlife 15-8
4.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Panic Attack 15-10
5.   Another Day defeats 6:00 14-10
6.   Caught in a Web defeats One Last Time 14-9
7.   On the Backs of Angels defeats The Best of Times 16-8
8.   Misunderstood defeats Through Her Eyes 19-6
9.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Outcry 14-10
10.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Peruvian Skies 17-8
11.   Lie defeats Behind the Veil 16-8
12.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Erotomania 16-8
13.   Wait For Sleep defeats This is the Life 14-10
14.   Surrender to Reason defeats Innocence Faded 13-11
15.   This Dying Soul defeats The Enemy Inside 13-11
16.   Surrounded defeats These Walls 14-11


Division 2 Rankings after Week 16 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *Surrounded 16-0 (+183)   
2.   *Misunderstood 15-1 (+134)
3.   *Strange déjà vu 14-2 (+129)   
4.   *Endless Sacrifice 13-3 (+102)   
5.   *Lifting Shadows off a Dream 13-3 (+53)   
6.   The Root of All Evil 12-4 (+54)     
7.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 12-4 (+26) 
8.   These Walls 11-5 (+64)   
9.   Wait For Sleep 11-5 (+50)       
10.   Another Day 11-5 (+48)     
11.   6:00 11-5 (+39)               
12.   Surrender to Reason 10-6 (+44)
13.   This Dying Soul 10-6 (-1)     
14.   Erotomania 9-6-1 (+23)           
15.   Caught in a Web 9-6-1 (+10) 
16.   Sacrificed Sons 9-7 (+67)       
17.   The Bigger Picture 8-7-1 (+18)   
18.   The Dance of Eternity 8-7-1 (+7) 
19.   Lie 8-8 (+32)               
20.   Peruvian Skies 7-9 (-20)   
21.   Outcry 7-9 (-35)       
22.   This is the Life 6-10 (-21)   
23.   On the Backs of Angels 6-10 (-33)
24.   A Nightmare to Remember 4-11-1 (-8)
25.   X Panic Attack 3-13 (-35) 
26.   X Innocence Faded 3-13 (-61)
27.   X The Enemy Inside 3-13 (-140)
28.   X Through Her Eyes 2-14 (-166) 
29.   X One Last Time 1-14-1 (-115) 
30.   X Behind the Veil 1-15 (-63) 
31.   X The Best of Times 0-16 (-199)
32.   X Afterlife 0-16 (-204)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 16 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43544.0

1.   Overture 1928 defeats Blind Faith 14-11 
2.    Under a Glass Moon defeats In the Presence of Enemies 13-12
3.   Trial of Tears defeats Stream of Consciousness 17-8
4.   The Glass Prison defeats The Great Debate 15-9
5.   #6 Learning to Live defeats Disappear 19-5
6.   #13 Home defeats Beyond This Life 17-8
7.   #2 Breaking All Illusions defeats Hell’s Kitchen 19-6
8.   #7 Take the Time defeats The Mirror 16-9
9.   #11 The Spirit Carries On defeats Fatal Tragedy 13-12
10.   #5 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Bridges in the Sky 18-7
11.   #15 The Count of Tuscany defeats Pull Me Under 17-8
12.   Illumination Theory defeats #10 Lines in the Sand 13-12
13.   #9 Scarred defeats #16 Finally Free 15-10
14.   #4 Metropolis defeats #12 Space-Dye Vest 20-5
15.   #14 In the Name of God defeats #8 Voices 13-12
16.   #1 Octavarium defeats #3 A Change of Seasons 15-10


Division 1 Rankings after Week 16 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.
* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   *Octavarium 16-0 (+237) 
2.   *Breaking All Illusions 15-1 (+217) 
3.   *A Change of Seasons 14-2 (+179)
4.   *Metropolis 13-2-1 (+173)     
5.   *Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 13-2-1 (+120)
6.   *Learning to Live 13-3 (+173)     
7.   *Take the Time 13-3 (+109)       
8.   Voices 11-4-1 (+51)       
9.   Scarred 10-4-2 (+52)         
10.   The Spirit Carries On 10-4-2 (0)     
11.   Home 9-5-2 (+48)           
12.   The Count of Tuscany 10-6 (+18) 
13.   In the Name of God 10-6 (+13)
14.   Lines in the Sand  9-5-2 (-1) 
15.   Space-Dye Vest 9-6-1 (-22)     
16.   Illumination Theory 9-7 (+1)   
17.   Finally Free 8-7-1 (-4)       
18.   Trial of Tears 7-7-2 (+8)       
19.   The Glass Prison 7-7-2 (+3)     
20.   The Mirror 6-9-1 (-22)     
21.   Blind Faith 5-10-1 (-52)     
22.   In the Presence of Enemies 5-11 (-70)
23.   Stream of Consciousness 5-11 (-87) 
24.   Under a Glass Moon 4-10-2 (-101) 
25.   X Fatal Tragedy 4-12 (-97)     
26.   X Disappear 2-14 (-105)       
27.   X Beyond This Life 2-14 (-119) 
28.   X The Great Debate 2-14 (-119)
29.   X Bridges in the Sky 1-14-1 (-130)
30.   X Hell’s Kitchen 1-15 (-134) 
31.   X Pull Me Under 1-15 (-174)
32.   X Overture 1928  1-15 (-147)

[hefdaddy42]

I'm really surprised that BITS is doing so poorly.

[TheCountOfNYC]

I'm really surprised that BITS is doing so poorly.

Me too. I genuinely thought that it was one of the more loved songs of the Mangini era.

[ToT-147]

I'm really surprised that BITS is doing so poorly.

Me too. I genuinely thought that it was one of the more loved songs of the Mangini era.

It is.. Along with BAI and IT it's in Division 1, while the other songs of that period are in divisions below, and in Division 2 they appear not until the 12th place onwards..

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 3, Week 17 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43565.0

1.   False Awakening Suite defeats Constant Motion 14-13
2.   Hollow Years defeats A Rite of Passage 20-7    
3.   The Killing Hand defeats Beneath the Surface 14-13
4.   Raise the Knife defeats Anna Lee 18-8
5.   The Silent Man defeats Enigma Machine 19-8
6.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Just Let Me Breathe 19-7
7.   Along for the Ride defeats Forsaken 14-13
8.   To Live Forever defeats Ytse Jam 14-13
9.   Eve defeats The Answer Lies Within 14-13
10.   Vacant defeats Never Enough 21-6
11.   Wither defeats Repentance 16-11
12.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Far From Heaven 17-10
13.   As I Am defeats The Dark Eternal Night 19-8
14.   Honor Thy Father defeats  I Walk Beside You 16-11
15.   A Fortune in Lies defeats New Millennium 18-9
16.   The Shattered Fortress defeats The Looking Glass 15-12


Division 3 Rankings after Week 17 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *As I Am 17-0 (+186) 
2.   *Vacant 15-1-1 (+117)               
3.   *Honor Thy Father 14-1-2 (+101) 
4.   *The Shattered Fortress 14-3 (+118)
5.   *Lost Not Forgotten 13-3-1 (+125)   
6.   *The Killing Hand 12-2-3 (+57) 
7.   *Hollow Years 13-4 (+83)         
8.   *Beneath the Surface 12-5 (+61) 
9.   *The Looking Glass 12-5 (+48)     
10.   *New Millennium 12-5 (+32)     
11.   *Wither 11-5-1 (+60)   
12.   *Ytse Jam 11-5-1 (+39)       
13.   The Silent Man 10-6-1 (+74) 
14.   Raise the Knife 10-7 (+28)     
15.   A Fortune In Lies 9-8 (+13)     
16.   Far From Heaven 8-8-1 (-17) 
17.   Along for the Ride 8-9 (-33)     
18.   I Walk Beside You 7-9-1 (-45) 
19.   Eve 7-10 (-3)           
20.   Forsaken 7-10 (-29)     
21.   The Dark Eternal Night 6-10-1 (-20)
22.   To Live Forever 6-10-1 (-21)   
23.   Repentance 6-11 (-45)     
24.   False Awakening Suite 6-11 (-62)   
25.   Constant Motion 5-11-1 (-38)     
26.   X Only a Matter of Time 4-12-1 (-85) 
27.   X Anna Lee 3-13-1 (-62) 
28.   X The Answer Lies Within 2-14-1 (-79)
29.   X Never  Enough 2-15 (-85) 
30.   X Enigma Machine 1-16 (-113)
31.   X A Rite of Passage 0-17 (-169)
32.   X Just Let Me Breathe 0-17 (-216)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 2, Week 17 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43571.0

1.   Lie defeats On the Backs of Angels 17-9
2.   The Enemy Inside defeats This is the Life 14-13
3.   This Dying Soul defeats Erotomania  15-12
4.   Innocence Faded defeats Behind the Veil 15-12
5.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Wait For Sleep 15-12
6.   These Walls defeats Peruvian Skies 17-10
7.   One Last Time defeats Through Her Eyes 20-7
8.   The Root of All Evil defeats The Best of Times 20-7
9.   Surrounded defeats 6:00 19-8
10.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Caught in a Web 14-13
11.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Afterlife 17-10
12.   Another Day defeats Sacrificed Sons 17-10
13.   Outcry defeats Panic Attack 16-11
14.   The Bigger Picture defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 17-10
15.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Surrender to Reason 16-11
16.   Misunderstood defeats Strange Déjà vu 17-10


Division 2 Rankings after Week 17 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.

* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1.   *Surrounded 17-0 (+194)   
2.   *Misunderstood 16-1 (+141)
3.   *Strange déjà vu 14-3 (+122)   
4.   *Endless Sacrifice 14-3 (+105)    
5.   *Lifting Shadows off a Dream 14-3 (+54)   
6.   *The Root of All Evil 13-4 (+67)     
7.   These Walls 12-5 (+71)     
8.   Another Day 12-5 (+55)     
9.   The Ministry of Lost Souls 12-5 (+19) 
10.   Wait For Sleep 11-6 (+47)       
11.   6:00 11-6 (+28)               
12.   This Dying Soul 11-6 (+2)     
13.   Surrender to Reason 10-7 (+39)
14.   The Bigger Picture 9-7-1 (+25)   
15.   Erotomania 9-7-1 (+20)           
16.   The Dance of Eternity 9-7-1 (+12)   
17.   Caught in a Web 9-7-1 (+9) 
18.   Sacrificed Sons 9-8 (+60)       
19.   Lie 9-8 (+40)                 
20.   Outcry 8-9 (-30)       
21.   Peruvian Skies 7-10 (-27)   
22.   X This is the Life 6-11 (-22)   
23.   X On the Backs of Angels 6-11 (-41)
24.   X A Nightmare to Remember 5-11-1 (-1)
25.   X Innocence Faded 4-13 (-58)
26.   X The Enemy Inside 4-13 (-139)
27.   X Panic Attack 3-14 (-40)   
28.   X One Last Time 2-14-1 (-102) 
29.   X Through Her Eyes 2-15 (-179) 
30.   X Behind the Veil 1-16 (-66) 
31.   X The Best of Times 0-17 (-212)
32.   X Afterlife 0-17 (-211)

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Division 1, Week 17 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43577.0

1.   Bridges in the Sky defeats Disappear 14-12
2.   #16 Illumination Theory defeats The Great Debate 14-12
3.   #8 Voices defeats Pull Me Under 20-6
4.   The Glass Prison defeats #10 The Spirit Carries On 14-12
5.   #2 Breaking All Illusions defeats The Mirror 19-7
6.   Trial of Tears defeats Fatal Tragedy 14-10
7.   Blind Faith defeats  #15 Space-Dye Vest 16-10
8.   #6 Learning to Live defeats #7 Take the Time 19-7
9.   Finally Free defeats Hell’s Kitchen 18-8
10.   #11 Home defeats Stream of Consciousness 18-8
11.   #14 Lines in the Sand defeats In the Presence of Enemies 15-11
12.   #3 A Change of Seasons defeats Overture 1928 21-5
13.   #9 Scarred defeats Under a Glass Moon 16-10
14.   #4 Metropolis defeats #13 In the Name of God 18-8
15.   #1 Octavarium defeats Beyond This Life 23-2
16.   #5 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats #12 The Count of Tuscany 16-10


Division 1 Rankings after Week 17 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2). All tiebreakers for songs with the same record will be applied at season’s end.
* indicates a song has clinched a spot in the tournament.
x indicates that a song has been mathematically eliminated from advancing to the tournament.

Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)

1.   *Octavarium 17-0 (+258) 
2.   *Breaking All Illusions 16-1 (+229) 
3.   *A Change of Seasons 15-2 (+195)
4.   *Metropolis 14-2-1 (+183)     
5.   *Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 14-2-1 (+126)
6.   *Learning to Live 14-3 (+185)     
7.   *Take the Time 13-4 (+97)       
8.   Voices 12-4-1 (+65)       
9.   Scarred 11-4-2 (+58)         
10.   Home 10-5-2 (+58)             
11.   Lines in the Sand  10-5-2 (+3) 
12.   The Spirit Carries On 10-5-2 (-2)     
13.   The Count of Tuscany 10-7 (+12) 
14.   Illumination Theory 10-7 (+3)   
15.   In the Name of God 10-7 (+3)
16.   Finally Free 9-7-1 (+6)         
17.   Space-Dye Vest 9-7-1 (-28)     
18.   Trial of Tears 8-7-2 (+12)       
19.   The Glass Prison 8-7-2 (+5)     
20.   The Mirror 6-10-1 (-34)     
21.   Blind Faith 6-10-1 (-46)     
22.   X In the Presence of Enemies 5-12 (-74)
23.   X Stream of Consciousness 5-12 (-97) 
24.   X Under a Glass Moon 4-11-2 (-107) 
25.   X Fatal Tragedy 4-13 (-101)     
26.   X Bridges in the Sky 2-14-1 (-128) 
27.   X Disappear 2-15 (-107)       
28.   X The Great Debate 2-15 (-119)   
29.   X Beyond This Life 2-15 (-140) 
30.   X Hell’s Kitchen 1-16 (-144) 
31.   X Overture 1928  1-16 (-163)
32.   X Pull Me Under 1-16 (-188)

[BlackInk]

I'm surprised to see Take the Time at #7. Not that I mind, I'm just surprised.

[Prog Snob]

I'm not as surprised at that as much as I'm surprised 8V is number 1. 

[BlackInk]

Isn't it always though? Either 1 or 2? Nothing shocking there for me.