Also, Hoffman's Cheddar is terrible. It's Velveeta except with an almost cheese-like flavor. However, it does serve one very important purpose. Like Velveeta, it melts perfectly, so in a casserole it's actually pretty effective. I'd just as soon use real, sharp cheddar, but if the cheese flavor isn't all that important it's hard to get a smoother sauce than what Hoffman's will get you.