Author Topic: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone. (Read 371062 times)

DTA · « **Reply #3220 on:** February 02, 2018, 02:38:51 PM »

Song #6 is a pretty big surprise. I didn't think SW rated that one that highly (even though it's excellent, it's very much a "lost" track and not one I expected him to play). Songs #13 and #17 should definitely get replaced by something else. They're good songs, but so overplayed by him at this point. Also, why is Harmony Korine appearing in every setlist? It seems to be the sole representation from Insurgentes each tour, and I can't figure out why. It's not like it was a hit or anything. I'll never understand why bands make the setlist choices they do...it's like they're scared to omit certain songs for whatever reason.

KevShmev · « **Reply #3221 on:** February 02, 2018, 04:44:08 PM »

I have never been a big fan of Harmony Korine (good song, but not even one of the best from that record), but I have to admit that when I saw SW on The Raven tour, that song kicked ass. The way it builds really gets the crowd going; I can see why he plays it at every show.

While I love his selection of PT songs, I was hoping he would have pulled out something rare from Stupid Dream or Lightbulb Sun. Oh well.

Mladen · « **Reply #3222 on:** February 03, 2018, 03:34:50 AM »

Harmony Korine is a great song, but I think the title track from that album would work perfectly as a quiet part of the encore. There's something magical about it that would be ethereal in a live setting.

nobloodyname · « **Reply #3223 on:** February 05, 2018, 02:59:47 AM »

Interesting change at the top of the set for the last couple of nights.

Schurftkut · « **Reply #3224 on:** February 05, 2018, 08:32:14 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eQe0ZvzOwg

utopiarun · « **Reply #3225 on:** February 05, 2018, 08:35:04 AM »

Not too happy To The Bone has been dropped. It's my favorite of the album. I know that there will be changes before the tour hits the US but I would be disappointed if TTB was dropped at my show for Vermillioncore.

DTA · « **Reply #3226 on:** February 05, 2018, 05:57:35 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on February 02, 2018, 04:44:08 PM

I have never been a big fan of Harmony Korine (good song, but not even one of the best from that record), but I have to admit that when I saw SW on The Raven tour, that song kicked ass. The way it builds really gets the crowd going; I can see why he plays it at every show.

While I love his selection of PT songs, I was hoping he would have pulled out something rare from Stupid Dream or Lightbulb Sun. Oh well.

It's not the worst song ever, and I've enjoyed it live, but it only gets the crowd going because it's played often enough to elicit that kind of reaction. Remainder The Black Dog would get the same reaction if it was played as much. Not to go off on yet another setlist rant, but it bugs me so much that musicians lock themselves into playing certain songs throughout their entire career when they could constantly vary their song choices and have multiple energetic crowd songs to choose from. The man has basically given himself an entire second career with an ever-expanding catalog, yet he wastes valuable setlist space on songs people have seen him do a bunch of times already. And now a song from the new album that no one has heard live yet is already dropped from the setlist, yet HK survives. I hate everyone.

KevShmev · « **Reply #3227 on:** February 05, 2018, 06:46:48 PM »

It makes me think that To the Bone either wasn't working well live or the crowd wasn't digging it. If all you hear are crickets during your opener, I get changing it on the fly. Just speculation of course.

DTA · « **Reply #3228 on:** February 06, 2018, 05:27:59 AM »

You’re probably right. Though I actually think the amount of songs he is doing from TTB is actually a bit high for the first time through. Considering he usually does more than one leg in each area, he may want to save some of the new album for the next time around.

Nowhere Now seems like an odd song to open with so I’m guessing he may switch up the order a bit in the next few shows.

ganpondorodf · « **Reply #3229 on:** February 06, 2018, 05:33:06 AM »

I really think we can drop The Raven now, Steven...

goo-goo · « **Reply #3230 on:** February 06, 2018, 06:54:46 AM »

Quote from: ganpondorodf on February 06, 2018, 05:33:06 AM

I really think we can drop The Raven now, Steven...

No, please don't.

Bring back To The Bone, drop Lazarus.

ganpondorodf · « **Reply #3231 on:** February 06, 2018, 07:19:25 AM »

It's a good song, it's just been in the set for what feels like forever. Due a rest.

jammindude · « **Reply #3232 on:** February 06, 2018, 07:27:33 AM »

When I was at the Portland show for the HCE tour last year, he made the comment that he felt Raven was the greatest song he had ever written...so I doubt it’s going anywhere.

RoeDent · « **Reply #3233 on:** February 06, 2018, 10:43:15 AM »

Shame if that's the case, because To the Bone works fantastically as the opener of the album.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #3234 on:** February 06, 2018, 11:46:36 AM »

Raven is his best song ever. Its so hauntingly beautiful and sad.

Mladen · « **Reply #3235 on:** February 06, 2018, 12:02:12 PM »

It was the perfect closer when I saw Steven live. He might as well stick with it for a while, I wouldn't mind.

Schurftkut · « **Reply #3236 on:** February 06, 2018, 12:37:47 PM »

He should never exclude Raven from any future sets. Beautiful everytime i hear it. I'd rather have Routine as well back in the set, same caliber qualitymusic to me.

JayOctavarium · « **Reply #3237 on:** February 06, 2018, 12:47:17 PM »

Quote from: Schurftkut on February 06, 2018, 12:37:47 PM

He should never exclude Raven from any future sets. Beautiful everytime i hear it. I'd rather have Routine as well back in the set, same caliber qualitymusic to me.

Raven should be played in every live show ever. Not even just Steven Wilson.

EVERY CONCERT EVER PLAYED BY ANYONE.

? · « **Reply #3238 on:** February 06, 2018, 02:22:34 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on February 05, 2018, 06:46:48 PM

It makes me think that To the Bone either wasn't working well live or the crowd wasn't digging it. If all you hear are crickets during your opener, I get changing it on the fly. Just speculation of course.

Craig confirmed this: https://mobile.twitter.com/craigblundell/status/960277240398393344?p=v

XeRocks81 · « **Reply #3239 on:** February 06, 2018, 02:41:27 PM »

putting together a good show is such delicate alchemy. I don't think we can fuly gauge, from out there in the stands, what really works or doesn't for the main artist standing there on stage doing the thing. Sure we have an experience, a point of view, but it's not the same.

Elite · « **Reply #3240 on:** February 06, 2018, 03:20:03 PM »

Quote from: ganpondorodf on February 06, 2018, 05:33:06 AM

I really think we can drop The Raven now, Steven...

Yes, please.

utopiarun · « **Reply #3241 on:** February 06, 2018, 03:48:25 PM »

I'm in agreement with all who say that Raven should always be in the set, even JayOctavarium who said it should be played by everyone ever.

Not understanding how after 2 shows To The Bone is designated "not a live track". They rehearsed it and opened 2 shows with it and just drop it? Has anyone heard it from the first 2 shows? I like Nowhere Now but that is a kind of an underwhelming opening song for a concert. Maybe stick To The Bone a little more back in the set, not open with it. I would much rather hear TTB as opposed to Song Of I or Refuge, but that's me. Vermillioncore doesn't excite me either, still 2.5 months until my show in PA, maybe some more changes are coming?

KevShmev · « **Reply #3242 on:** February 06, 2018, 05:38:37 PM »

Quote from: ? on February 06, 2018, 02:22:34 PM

Quote from: KevShmev on February 05, 2018, 06:46:48 PM
It makes me think that To the Bone either wasn't working well live or the crowd wasn't digging it. If all you hear are crickets during your opener, I get changing it on the fly. Just speculation of course.
Craig confirmed this: https://mobile.twitter.com/craigblundell/status/960277240398393344?p=v

I feel smart.

Quote from: ganpondorodf on February 06, 2018, 07:19:25 AM

It's a good song, it's just been in the set for what feels like forever. Due a rest.

Or, more accurately, only three tours now.

Quote from: jammindude on February 06, 2018, 07:27:33 AM

When I was at the Portland show for the HCE tour last year, he made the comment that he felt Raven was the greatest song he had ever written...so I doubt it’s going anywhere.

Let's hope not.

? · « **Reply #3243 on:** February 07, 2018, 07:55:10 AM »

I don't mind Raven live, but it's such a downer ending and would work better as the main set closer, while a more energetic (and less depressing lol) song at the end of the encore could send everybody home on a high note.

Nick · « **Reply #3244 on:** February 07, 2018, 08:00:52 AM »

Quote from: ? on February 07, 2018, 07:55:10 AM

I don't mind Raven live, but it's such a downer ending and would work better as the main set closer, while a more energetic (and less depressing lol) song at the end of the encore could send everybody home on a high note.

Bro, do you even Steven Wilson?

AngelBack · « **Reply #3245 on:** February 07, 2018, 08:05:11 AM »

Quote from: Nick on February 07, 2018, 08:00:52 AM

Quote from: ? on February 07, 2018, 07:55:10 AM
I don't mind Raven live, but it's such a downer ending and would work better as the main set closer, while a more energetic (and less depressing lol) song at the end of the encore could send everybody home on a high note.

Bro, do you even Steven Wilson?

LOL so true. But I'm not sure I want to leave an SW show NOT having heard Lazarus. Such a beautiful song.

? · « **Reply #3246 on:** February 07, 2018, 09:26:21 AM »

Quote from: Nick on February 07, 2018, 08:00:52 AM

Quote from: ? on February 07, 2018, 07:55:10 AM
I don't mind Raven live, but it's such a downer ending and would work better as the main set closer, while a more energetic (and less depressing lol) song at the end of the encore could send everybody home on a high note.

Bro, do you even Steven Wilson?

Oh sorry, I forgot every SW song ever was a slow and brooding ballad

Seriously, a rocker like Harmony Korine or something from PT would be better as the very last song IMO.

JayOctavarium · « **Reply #3247 on:** February 07, 2018, 09:30:58 AM »

If you aren't depressed when leaving a SW show, you are doing it wrong

Nick · « **Reply #3248 on:** February 07, 2018, 10:12:09 AM »

Quote from: ? on February 07, 2018, 09:26:21 AM

Quote from: Nick on February 07, 2018, 08:00:52 AM
Quote from: ? on February 07, 2018, 07:55:10 AM
I don't mind Raven live, but it's such a downer ending and would work better as the main set closer, while a more energetic (and less depressing lol) song at the end of the encore could send everybody home on a high note.

Bro, do you even Steven Wilson?
Oh sorry, I forgot every SW song ever was a slow and brooding ballad

Seriously, a rocker like Harmony Korine or something from PT would be better as the very last song IMO.

What show are you going to? I'm going to write Steven Wilson and have him play Raven, then Routine, and then Raven again for good measure.

RoeDent · « **Reply #3249 on:** February 07, 2018, 12:23:13 PM »

Why does it have to be a solo or PT number to close? Why not Bass Communion?

SwedishGoose · « **Reply #3250 on:** February 07, 2018, 12:26:08 PM »

What are the chances that Michael Åkerfeldt will guest in Stockholm for some Storm Corrosion?

KevShmev · « **Reply #3251 on:** February 07, 2018, 04:57:43 PM »

Quote from: Nick on February 07, 2018, 10:12:09 AM

What show are you going to? I'm going to write Steven Wilson and have him play Raven, then Routine, and then Raven again for good measure.

Don't forget to have him play Feel So Low as well!

? · « **Reply #3252 on:** February 08, 2018, 11:27:10 AM »

Quote from: KevShmev on February 07, 2018, 04:57:43 PM

Quote from: Nick on February 07, 2018, 10:12:09 AM

What show are you going to? I'm going to write Steven Wilson and have him play Raven, then Routine, and then Raven again for good measure.

Don't forget to have him play Feel So Low as well!

Next tour setlist:

Drive Home
Pariah
Heartattack in a Layby
Collapse the Light into Earth
Refuge
Routine
Feel So Low
Stop Swimming
Happy Returns
The Raven

Free tissues at the door

JayOctavarium · « **Reply #3253 on:** February 08, 2018, 11:41:37 AM »

Quote from: ? on February 08, 2018, 11:27:10 AM

Next tour setlist:

Drive Home
Pariah
Heartattack in a Layby
Collapse the Light into Earth
Refuge
Routine
Feel So Low
Stop Swimming
Happy Returns
The Raven

Free tissues at the door

Sign. Me. Up.

Elite · « **Reply #3254 on:** February 08, 2018, 01:00:30 PM »

Quote from: SwedishGoose on February 07, 2018, 12:26:08 PM

What are the chances that Michael Åkerfeldt will guest in Stockholm for some Storm Corrosion?

Zero. I’ve been to two different festivals in different years where both Opeth and Steven Wilson were playing (one time on the same day), hoping something like that would happen during one of the shows and it did not.

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Author Topic: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone. (Read 371062 times)