Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.

[RoeDent]

No, the album must remain! Albums are the symphonies of rock music.

[Casino-95]

I cannot stop listening to "My Book of Regrets."

I'm almost a year behind in buying this EP, but I love this song so much.

For everyone who heard it when it first came out, has this song's awesomeness diminished at all?

[KevShmev]

I'm pretty high on both My Book of Regrets and Happiness III, although neither can top the best songs from HCE, The Raven or Grace, IMO.

[Casino-95]

My favorite 15 songs (chronologically):
1. No Twilight Within the Courts of the Sun
2. Insurgentes
3. The 78
4. Deform to Form a Star
5. Postcard
6. Index
7. Home in Negative
8. Luminol
9. Drive Home
10. The Holy Drinker
11. The Watchmaker
12. First Regret/3 Years Older
13. Routine
14. Ancestral
15. My Book of Regrets

That's like a 1/3 of his songs, and it was an incredibly tough list to narrow down.

EDIT:  I forgot about Cover Version, but I didn't really like any of it that much.  It's really closer to 1/4 of his songs with that.

EDIT 2:  Replaced "Like Dust I Have Cleared from My Eye" with "No Twilight."

[nobloodyname]

I cannot stop listening to "My Book of Regrets."

I'm almost a year behind in buying this EP, but I love this song so much.

For everyone who heard it when it first came out, has this song's awesomeness diminished at all?

Not for me. It's one of my favourite Steven Wilson tunes, if not the favourite.

[seasonsinthesky]

I cannot stop listening to "My Book of Regrets."

I'm almost a year behind in buying this EP, but I love this song so much.

For everyone who heard it when it first came out, has this song's awesomeness diminished at all?

Not for me. It's one of my favourite Steven Wilson tunes, if not the favourite.

I don't listen to HCE without it anymore. It's usually either sandwiched in somewhere, or it replaces "Home Invasion/Regret #9" (yes, I do end up missing the R#9 solo).

[KevShmev]

Honestly, the two longest songs on HCE I do not listen to that much anymore.  Ancestral and First Regret are both really good tunes, but I prefer most of the rest of the album to them.  Routine, Happy Returns, Home Invasion, Regret #9, Perfect Life and Transience are all songs I will never tire of, and I can throw My Book of Regrets and Happiness III into that mix, as well.

[pfillion]

Steven Wilson starts recording his new album today

https://twitter.com/xtcfans/status/808272517358043136

[KevShmev]

Awesome.

[?]

Steven Wilson starts recording his new album today

https://twitter.com/xtcfans/status/808272517358043136

For those who didn't know, that was tweeted by Andy Partridge of XTC. I haven't really listened to XTC, but I know they've got a post-punk/new wave background, so I'm curious to see if any of that surfaces on the next SW album.

[Sacul]

Well, hope it doesn't sound as boring as Skylarking

[ReaperKK]

Sweet, I'll check it out when it's released. I'm out of the loop though; are Guthrie and Marco on this album?

[faizoff]

Great news, I'm curious too about who are the contributing players. The way Marco sounded off on the gold record thing makes me think Craig Blundell might play the drums this time round, not sure about Guthrie.

[ReaperKK]

I'd honestly be really disappointed with Guthrie didn't play. He is my favorite guitar player but I feel like he works best with someone like SW giving him a restriction on his playing. I also think that Guthrie can really elevate SW's music.

[?]

After the gold disc shitstorm I'd be shocked if Marco and Guthrie were involved. Craig Blundell also posted this a couple of days ago:

I start work on a new album on Thursday. Some of it is quite heavy and needs big cymbals.

Not sure if he's referring to SW, but judging by the fact that the recordings have started, it's very likely.

[Zantera]

Didn't know about the XTC-connection, that's great considering how good they were. Skylarking is probably better than anything SW has been involved with so good news.

[ReaperKK]

After the gold disc shitstorm I'd be shocked if Marco and Guthrie were involved. Craig Blundell also posted this a couple of days ago:

I start work on a new album on Thursday. Some of it is quite heavy and needs big cymbals.

Not sure if he's referring to SW, but judging by the fact that the recordings have started, it's very likely.

Yea I figured the gold disc thing might have had some effect

[Casino-95]

I'm very excited for any new Steven Wilson material.

I knew I'd heard of XTC somewhere before.  Apparently, Dave Gregory did string arrangements for the Lightbulb Sun album, as well as ".3" and "Collapse the Light into Earth."  I'm sure his former bandmate Andy Partridge will do a great job working with SW too.

[TioJorge]

I'm not too sour over someone not playing since I know Wilson isn't going to put someone sub-par in their spot. He'll get someone who is on par with their skill and innovation.

Other than that, I'm super excited to see what kind of feels this album brings!

[Onno]

I think I missed that gold disc thing... what happened?

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

According to my understanding: Steven won an award or something for HCE, and didn't mention it to Marco/Guthrie, who were not touring with SW's band at the time. Marco made some passive-aggressive comments about it on facebook. I don't know whether Guthrie ever addressed it or not.

Someone else can correct me if any of this is wrong.

[seasonsinthesky]

According to my understanding: Steven won an award or something for HCE, and didn't mention it to Marco/Guthrie, who were not touring with SW's band at the time. Marco made some passive-aggressive comments about it on facebook. I don't know whether Guthrie ever addressed it or not.

Someone else can correct me if any of this is wrong.

His label presented the current touring band with gold discs of HCE for reaching whatever amount of sales. Minneman has posted two incredibly whiny posts bitching about he and Guthrie not receiving any despite playing on the record and, apparently, being SUPER INTEGRAL to its success.

Guthrie hasn't said a word. As if he's some kind of professional who knows SW decided nothing about this and whinging on the internet to all his fans makes him look like a douchebag.

[nobloodyname]

The intimation, from recent Wilson interview comments, is that both Blundell and Kilminster will be present for these sessions.

[rumborak]

Minnemann is an excellent drummer, but he is a bit of a whiner, yeah. He did the same when DT management crossed him.

[RoeDent]

Will be cool to have Blundell and Kilminster on a full-length studio album. My Book of Regrets and Vermillioncore prove that we have nothing to worry about. It's SW's backing band, no more and no less.

[bout to crash]

Yeah, I love Marco and Guthrie but these guys will be great and I'm not at all worried about it.

[goo-goo]

Marco was being very butt hurt regarding the award. Guthrie never said anything publicly and I hope he returns in some fashion at least for part of the album. I'm still not very fond of Klimister's playing though.

[KevShmev]

Yep, I am not worried at all.  Grace for Drowning was totally awesome, and that was before he ever assembled a real band to back him up full time as a solo artist.

[Rattlehead]

Can you really blame Marco for being upset if you put yourself in his shoes though? As much as I love Steven, something tells me he can be a pain in the ass to work with 

[ChuckSteak]

"Just flew by Mount Everest on our way from Nepal to Bangkok. Pretty amazing I have to say. Now on a different quick note, I received a few questions about the gold awards for 'The Raven' and 'Hand.Cannot.Erase'. I'll try to keep it brief: Yes, some of the people involved in these productions had to learn through social media that these albums went gold. I seriously had no idea, so thanks for letting me know 😊. Well and what can I say, also at the end of the day they're SW's albums and he decides whom to share the success with. From what I've heard, some gold awards were given to one half of the band and the other half was excluded and not notified (very likely because of our decision for other band and touring commitments). But nevermind, we were all involved and played in the studio and live as a band and I'd like to believe that our musical contributions somehow at least to a certain degree shaped the vibe and style of these albums. Most important thing is that YOU appreciate and value the playing and contributions. So, thank you very much. Happily moving on, come to see the Aristocrats 'Tres Caballeros' world tour. We're in the middle of our Asian/ Australia leg and wow, India and Nepal were surely new and amazing places for us to explore and play and I can't thank everyone enough for making this tour such a huge success. Love you all :-), M."


and


"Well, to be honest, Raven and HCE are the only gold awards in that catalogue, aren't they... And excluding us, just because we cherish our own band The Aristocrats and refuse to ass crawl, is kind of a dick move.... Take your gold records and shove it."



I don't see any whining. Actually I agree with him and I totally understand why he reacted like this.

[BlackInk]

Whining or not, it's still childish and unprofessional. Take up with Wilson, don't tell him to "shove it" on social media to thousands of people.

[Onno]

Hmm okay, that doesn't sound that good. It's a bit weird on SW's part, but...

Whining or not, it's still childish and unprofessional. Take up with Wilson, don't tell him to "shove it" on social media to thousands of people.

Agreed.

That said, I also think SW will have no problems finding the right people to play on his next solo album.

[?]

Steven's response: https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/music/We-are-all-in-it-together/article16729642.ece

Both Hand. Cannot. Erase. and The Raven That Refused To Sing were certified Gold in Europe. There was, however, some initial discontent by drummer Marco Minnemann and guitarist Guthrie Govan about not being notified or given gold discs that were given out to the band?

I didn’t know about that. I haven’t spoken to Marco in over a year now. The gold discs were awarded by the record company to the artists. I mean I don’t award the gold discs. They gave them to other members of the band, I don’t know which but it’s first I’ve heard of any issues, to be honest.

For me, the gold disc is nice, but it is not that important to me (laughs). The most important thing is the work and the idea that it is reaching people is nice. Certainly this album seems to have reached more people than any of my previous records. It is great to be sitting here, 20 years into my career and saying, I’ve just had my most successful record.

Btw, in that same interview SW also says he's only in touch with the rest of PT on business matters. I hope it's not because of any bad blood.

[ReaperKK]

I doubt it's bad blood, I just think the SW is a solo show now and he is interested in picking and choosing band members.

Also just because you're in a band doesn't mean you have to be best friends.

[jammindude]

I've always said that there is a difference between "selfish" and "self focused"....but people often confuse the two.

"Selfish" is when you notice other people's feelings, needs...etc.   But you just don't care.  You think that your interests are more important than theirs.

"Self focused" is when other people's feelings and needs never even occurred to you in the first place.   It never even entered your thoughts because you were hyper focused on what *you* were doing.

I have often been guilty of the latter.   (though I try very hard to break out of the thought process)   That last interview quote sounds like SW may be the same way.