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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2520 on: July 10, 2018, 09:06:57 PM »
I just love that they hint at a heavy album.   When DT was at their prime,  we had to guess where they were going stylistically.  Haken feels that way now.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2521 on: July 11, 2018, 01:56:24 AM »
Heard Crystallized for the first time. My god its pretty good.

By far my favorite epic from them.   One of the most cohesive epics Ive ever heard.  Its just a masterpiece.

I agree, it's masterfully composed, the only thing that bothers me A LITTLE sometimes is that the final melody/motive doesn't appear anywhere else in the song. But I have already pretty much gotten over that.
I guess I'm just such a prog nerd that I'm used to all that this-story-ends-where-it-began stuff.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2522 on: July 11, 2018, 04:03:01 AM »
Funny how tastes differ. Crystallized always felt more disjointed than CE and Visions to me.

+1 on CE being amazing by how cohesive it is.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2523 on: July 11, 2018, 04:16:35 AM »
Crystalized is my favorite.   Sorry.  I've seen all 3 songs live and it was the best seeing it played live.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2524 on: July 11, 2018, 04:38:06 AM »
Crystalized is my favorite.   Sorry.  I've seen all 3 songs live and it was the best seeing it played live.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2525 on: July 11, 2018, 05:00:31 AM »
Rich wins.


For Haken. 


I'm up to 243 concerts.  That's counting festivals as 1 show.  Come at me bros.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2526 on: July 11, 2018, 05:33:06 AM »
Crystallised is easily their worst epic and Celestial Elixir is their best song.
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2527 on: July 11, 2018, 06:31:33 AM »
Rich wins.


For Haken. 


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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2528 on: July 11, 2018, 06:39:10 AM »
Rich wins.


For Haken. 


I'm up to 243 concerts.  That's counting festivals as 1 show.  Come at me bros.

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And documenting.  You're nuts! :lol
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2529 on: July 11, 2018, 06:44:50 AM »
Rich wins.


For Haken. 
Well, Nick has overtaken me in terms of number of performances (though sometimes it's been multiple performances at the same festival/cruise, so eh). But I'll always be the longest-serving fan and been to gigs for the longest period on here (and indeed anywhere, as I went to their first ever gig). :P

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2530 on: July 11, 2018, 09:12:59 AM »
Crystallised is easily their worst epic
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2531 on: July 11, 2018, 09:41:37 AM »
Celestial Elixir wins.

Cyrstallised is close though.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2532 on: July 11, 2018, 09:43:23 AM »
Heard Crystallized for the first time. My god its pretty good.

By far my favorite epic from them.   One of the most cohesive epics Ive ever heard.  Its just a masterpiece.

I agree, it's masterfully composed, the only thing that bothers me A LITTLE sometimes is that the final melody/motive doesn't appear anywhere else in the song. But I have already pretty much gotten over that.
I guess I'm just such a prog nerd that I'm used to all that this-story-ends-where-it-began stuff.

I wish that ending guitar would've gone a bit longer its a nice melody that just suddenly ends. It needed a couple more bars.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2533 on: July 11, 2018, 10:38:17 AM »
YES


I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2534 on: July 11, 2018, 10:49:43 AM »
Ohhhh sweet!! Definitely not missing this one. I will have to consider trying to get into Leprous again too. Didn't get too far last time, but that was probably 3-4 years ago so maybe my tastes have changed enough.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2535 on: July 11, 2018, 11:07:41 AM »
Nice, did not expect another tour of the US so soon, but happily surprised!

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2536 on: July 11, 2018, 11:25:44 AM »
Looks like a Denver trip for me. this lineup is too good not to miss. Bent Knee are really good, followed by Leprous whom are amazing as well, and Haken whom I have yet to see.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2537 on: July 11, 2018, 11:27:11 AM »
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2538 on: July 11, 2018, 11:33:01 AM »
Nice!! A Monday night concert will be rough, but Ill tough it out.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2539 on: July 11, 2018, 11:48:35 AM »
fucking hell, I want to go to that one too
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2540 on: July 11, 2018, 12:12:27 PM »
AWE YEAH.  On my wife's birthday in Boston.  She already said, "That's my present, right"? 


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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2541 on: July 11, 2018, 12:16:47 PM »
Great news on the tour.  I never thought they would come to Nashville and the Exit/In.  Of course I am cautiously optimistic after DT was schedule for Nashville and someone made an error in the stage footprint needed and they had to cancel.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2542 on: July 11, 2018, 12:17:18 PM »
AWE YEAH.  On my wife's birthday in Boston.  She already said, "That's my present, right"? 


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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2543 on: July 11, 2018, 02:05:51 PM »
Might have to hit up the Pittsburgh date this time around.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2544 on: July 11, 2018, 03:41:17 PM »
Too bad it's US only. I just happened to discover Bent Knee last week, this would have been a dream lineup for me.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2545 on: July 11, 2018, 06:19:06 PM »
Heard Crystallized for the first time. My god its pretty good.

By far my favorite epic from them.   One of the most cohesive epics Ive ever heard.  Its just a masterpiece.

I agree, it's masterfully composed, the only thing that bothers me A LITTLE sometimes is that the final melody/motive doesn't appear anywhere else in the song. But I have already pretty much gotten over that.
I guess I'm just such a prog nerd that I'm used to all that this-story-ends-where-it-began stuff.

I think the ending totally fits, though.  You get the build-up of the "Someone's calling me..." section, which was heard earlier in the song several times, and the transition to both the guitar lead and final vocal section is very smooth.  Sure, the "story ends where it began" style of epic writing really works sometimes, as perfected by Neal Morse, but the long epics don't always have to end that way, Mr. Prog Nerd. :P :biggrin:

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2546 on: July 11, 2018, 08:32:32 PM »
I wish I would have remembered Bent Knee sooner....I just went to check out Leak Water, and realized that I went NUTS for that song when it came out, but then.....life happened....and I just forgot all about it.

And now I discover that they were JUST at a local club June 30th, and I totally would have gone if I had remembered. But at least Ill get to see them open for Haken now.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2547 on: July 11, 2018, 10:29:15 PM »
The color scheme of the poster could be the color scheme of the next album.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2548 on: July 11, 2018, 10:58:13 PM »
Haven't been keeping up with their recent activity, is it likely that the album will be out before this tour?
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2549 on: July 12, 2018, 07:54:29 AM »
Haven't been keeping up with their recent activity, is it likely that the album will be out before this tour?

Not sure of the release date, but

https://www.loudersound.com/news/haken-finish-album-no5-and-announce-co-headline-tour-with-leprous

album is finished and they will be playing new songs on the tour

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2550 on: July 12, 2018, 12:06:11 PM »
I can't remember who said it, but one of the band definitely said they want it released before this year is out. Which is very likely now considering it's finished and it's only mid-July. I'm going for possibly a November/December release. It often takes like 3 months or so from finishing the album to actually releasing it into the wild.
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« Reply #2551 on: July 12, 2018, 12:11:08 PM »
I can't remember who said it, but one of the band definitely said they want it released before this year is out. Which is very likely now considering it's finished and it's only mid-July. I'm going for possibly a November/December release. It often takes like 3 months or so from finishing the album to actually releasing it into the wild.

Backing up your post, that was Nick who posted the interview with Ray Hearne a month ago:

Here is the interview with Ray, enjoy!: http://www.sonicperspectives.com/interviews/interview-with-raymond-hearne/

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2552 on: July 12, 2018, 12:51:14 PM »
Nice!! A Monday night concert will be rough, but Ill tough it out.

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« Reply #2553 on: July 12, 2018, 02:14:20 PM »
Nice!! A Monday night concert will be rough, but Ill tough it out.

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« Reply #2554 on: July 12, 2018, 03:39:34 PM »
2 of my favorite bands on my Birthday! Dont think I can miss that.