The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!

[wolfking]

not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses.   Sounds like he has a mouth full or Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.

It does. he needs some milk!


As awesome as the first PV album was, it is a suck project. The last album was so fucking bad Winger laughed at it.


This is actually better than anything I heard off the last album though.

I thought it was really good.

[wolfking]

The song is nothing new or exciting though really.  Might work better in the album but certainly heard it all before. 

Sounds like he has a mouth full of Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.

Haha, good description Brent, but when I first heard it, I couldn't help but to think of this;

[jjrock88]

 

[Lowdz]

Hmm - new Place Vendome

https://youtu.be/WN_BFSOxdck


The riffs are starting to get "samey" (if they weren't already) and not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses.   Sounds like he has a mouth full of Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.

Good god that was horrific. Chorus is better but not enough for me to ever listen to Kiske trying to croon. That riff has been on every Frontiers album in the last four years. The Revolution Saints album used it several times 

[jjrock88]

That doesn't even sound like Kiske at all. What the heck!!!

I can't believe I'm saying this, but that song isn't good and Kiske sounds................weird or bad, I'm not sure. I've only heard a couple PV songs and that was from the first album. I thought they sounded great, but this one, yikes

[Lowdz]

It sounds like he's taking the piss out of Danzig  which would be forgivable cos he's a tool  but makes for a shit song.

[jjrock88]

I'll just pretend I never listened to it lol

[TAC]

New Deep Purple track.

I like it.

https://bravewords.com/news/deep-purple-launch-official-lyric-video-for-new-song-time-for-bedlam-more-infinite-album-details-revealed

[BlobVanDam]

I gave up once it got to sucking tits. Fucking cringey.

[jjrock88]

I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all.  I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.

[Kwyjibo]

I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all.  I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.

Then listen to the whole of Purpendicular right now. Better than most of the classic records.

[wolfking]

Hmm - new Place Vendome

https://youtu.be/WN_BFSOxdck


The riffs are starting to get "samey" (if they weren't already) and not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses.   Sounds like he has a mouth full of Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.

Good god that was horrific. Chorus is better but not enough for me to ever listen to Kiske trying to croon. That riff has been on every Frontiers album in the last four years. The Revolution Saints album used it several times 

That's a great album.

[Lowdz]

I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all.  I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.

I really enjoy the Perfect Strangers album, and the rest of the Blackmore albums following it. Morse Purple hasn't done anything for me.

[wolfking]

That Deep Purple song wasn't bad.  Nice instrumental section.

[bl5150]

I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all.  I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.

I really enjoy the Perfect Strangers album, and the rest of the Blackmore albums following it. Morse Purple hasn't done anything for me.

It's blasphemous to many guitarists but I always felt Morse is among the most overrated guitarists out there.   I've been following him since early days and bought solo albums like High Tension Wires and Southern Steel on release , so it's not as if I haven't tried.   He has his moments (did a good job on Kansas' Power) but overall I find his playing quite "unmelodic" - many of his solo runs are more chromatic noise than melody to me.   Didn't impress me live with Purple either.

[Kwyjibo]

I think the same of Blackmore, some nice riffs but his solos more or less leave me cold and I therefore find him overrated.

Steve Morse is good when he's in a real band and not the band leader and sole writer imo. From his solo albums only The Introduction is great, the rest has too many fillers for my liking. I quite like him in Deep Purple, and as I said before, Purpendicular is a killer record. Ted The Mechanic has moore groove than most of the DP classics and Sometimes I Feel Like Screaming may be my favorite DP song.

[BlobVanDam]

I didn't mind that Deep Purple song at all.  I don't think I've heard even one track from a Deep Purple album since Perfect Strangers.

I really enjoy the Perfect Strangers album, and the rest of the Blackmore albums following it. Morse Purple hasn't done anything for me.

It's blasphemous to many guitarists but I always felt Morse is among the most overrated guitarists out there.   I've been following him since early days and bought solo albums like High Tension Wires and Southern Steel on release , so it's not as if I haven't tried.   He has his moments (did a good job on Kansas' Power) but overall I find his playing quite "unmelodic" - many of his solo runs are more chromatic noise than melody to me.   Didn't impress me live with Purple either.

Deep Purple without Blackmore isn't even Deep Purple imo. Morse totally ruined seeing Deep Purple for me (luckily I wasn't there to see Purple). You're a pops nostalgia band, at least try to play the songs the way they're supposed to be. I've never seen someone so happy to play the music so wrong.

[Lowdz]

I think the same of Blackmore, some nice riffs but his solos more or less leave me cold and I therefore find him overrated.

Steve Morse is good when he's in a real band and not the band leader and sole writer imo. From his solo albums only The Introduction is great, the rest has too many fillers for my liking. I quite like him in Deep Purple, and as I said before, Purpendicular is a killer record. Ted The Mechanic has moore groove than most of the DP classics and Sometimes I Feel Like Screaming may be my favorite DP song.

No way is Blackmore overrated. He is one of the originals with Page, Hendrix, Beck, Iommi, Clapton etc.

Morse doesn't seem to be a writer. Very good guitarist but not a songwriter.
Those two songs you reference are good but don't stand up to the classic DP stuff.

[Kwyjibo]

Maybe overrated is the wrong term. There's no denying that Blackmore was and probably still is highly influential. It's just that his playing is not always for my personal taste. I like the classic Purple stuff and most of the early Rainbow too but a lot of Blackmore's solo playing just doesn't connect with me. And he's a dickhead 

[Lowdz]

He's certainly a dick head 

[wolfking]

Morse has a unique, interesting style, but I was never a huge fan of him either.  Same could be said about Blackmore I guess.

[bl5150]

That Deep Purple song wasn't bad.  Nice instrumental section.

Yeah - I quite like that.  Nice retro vibe without sounding contrived.

[TAC]

That Deep Purple song wasn't bad.  Nice instrumental section.

Yeah - I quite like that.  Nice retro vibe without sounding contrived.

Ha!
I liked everything about the song except for the garbled keyboard part in the middle.

I sampled Now What and I thought it was terrible. This was much better.

[bl5150]

I know a bloke who knows a bloke who knows a bloke who has a review copy of the Armored Saint Carpe Noctum release (unusually it is in full quality audio, so he says anyway) - catching up with said bloke tonight at my sister's 40th so guess who might have Armored Saint playing at their birthday ?    Some bloke called bl5150 is in charge of the music   


EDIT:  Wow....it's not due for release until late Feb 2017 , so it's out there a lot earlier than I normally get to hear things (maybe a week or two before release)

[TAC]

That's a lot of blokes!

[jjrock88]

Let us know what you think asap Brent!

[bl5150]

That's a lot of blokes!

We're very blokey in these parts .

Great little playlist we have up for my sis too -  she wanted some 80's pop but the playlist is mostly rock and includes Whitesnake, Gunners, Jovi, Europe, Aerosmith, Metallica, Scatterbrain, Def leppard, Journey, Gary Moore,Van Halen, Kiss , Skid Row, Cinderella, Roxus, Cheap Trick, Warrant, Extreme, Faith No More .........and Dream Theater     That's about as good as you'll get outside of a gathering of metalheads for a metal party

It'll be one of those rare things - a party I actually want to be at and at which I don't feel like using ear plugs.

Let us know what you think asap Brent!

Will do.

[jjrock88]

That sounds like a great party!!

[TAC]

I'm sure Ben will enjoy that!

[bl5150]

I'm sure Ben will enjoy that!

Unfortunately it's a licensed venue , no kids     He would've been the life of the party.

Speaking of things that Ben won't be hearing - a nice new song from Steel Panther

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xss9gL4_ZI

[jjrock88]

Brent I listened to that Steel Panther song. I really don't see any reason why Ben can't listen to that

[BlobVanDam]

Sounds kid friendly to me.

I'm surprised I managed to miss that. I follow their regular Youtube channel, but not the VEVO one, must have missed it on FB. Not bad.

[Kwyjibo]

Great little playlist we have up for my sis too -  she wanted some 80's pop but the playlist is mostly rock and includes Whitesnake, Gunners, Jovi, Europe, Aerosmith, Metallica, Scatterbrain, Def leppard, Journey, Gary Moore,Van Halen, Kiss , Skid Row, Cinderella, Roxus, Cheap Trick, Warrant, Extreme, Faith No More .........and Dream Theater     That's about as good as you'll get outside of a gathering of metalheads for a metal party

It'll be one of those rare things - a party I actually want to be at and at which I don't feel like using ear plugs.

Why is no-one throwing parties like these in my area?

Anyway have fun!!!

[Lepprador]

Just listened to the Armored Saint live album. Is it just me, or is the mix way too bass heavy ?

Cool band and all, they're just a little bit inconsistent.
Every album has its wealthy share of very average tracks. But that's something they have in common with other favorite bands of mine.

Can someone explain me the reasoning why there are only 8 songs ?
Because "Saints Will Conquer" was short as well and it's their schtick ?
Or could they only afford to record one night and these 8 tracks were the only ones without major mistakes ?

[bl5150]

Just listened to the Armored Saint live album. Is it just me, or is the mix way too bass heavy ?

Perhaps a bit - possibly also a symptom of what I thought was a rhythm guitar sound lacking punch.  The rest sounded pretty good.

This is a hard one to rate so I will break it down.


Performances: 9/10 - Bush sounds great as per usual

Sound Quality : 8/10

Song Selection/Song Numbers: 6.5/10  - not enough of my faves and not enough songs full stop.

Overall maybe 8/10 but it's really better than that but for the markdown for the songs/length.   I thought the song Win Hands Down was better live than on the studio album too.