Author Topic: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread! (Read 910001 times)

wolfking · « **Reply #5670 on:** November 10, 2016, 06:05:07 PM »

Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2016, 05:59:20 PM

WINGER WAS BETTER THAN THAT!!!!!!

That could be said about most bands.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #5671 on:** November 10, 2016, 06:13:27 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 06:05:07 PM

Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2016, 05:59:20 PM
WINGER WAS BETTER THAN THAT!!!!!!

That could be said about most bands.

TAC · « **Reply #5672 on:** November 10, 2016, 06:17:05 PM »

bl5150 · « **Reply #5673 on:** November 10, 2016, 06:20:39 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 06:05:07 PM

Quote from: TAC on November 10, 2016, 05:59:20 PM
WINGER WAS BETTER THAN THAT!!!!!!

That could be said about most bands.

As far as the Night Ranger goes I thought that album (Man In Motion) was really missing something with the songwriting and rated it high 70's...............seems to be a well rated album though by many. While I did say that the ballad was my favourite on the album (I don't think it's thaaaaaat bad) , in the end that's not saying much. Most of the other songs I find poorly written and that wasn't the case with their early albums. in the end the only Night Ranger albums that I really rate are Dawn patrol, Midnight Madness and maybe Feeding Off The Mojo ("maybe" because many don't consider it a real NR album)

TAC · « **Reply #5674 on:** November 10, 2016, 06:25:49 PM »

Nah, it's cool Brent. It made an impact on you back then, and that's what it's about.
But my word. There's no way the Chicago tune could've been worse.

Lowdz · « **Reply #5675 on:** November 11, 2016, 10:56:52 AM »

The RATT album was a poor one but I don't mind that song, there's not much better on RFTS.

Not got to the Night Ranger yet but I was never a big fan beyond the hits. Same with Cheap Trick but I love The Flame.

Black n Blue were an excellent band but this album wasn't as strong as the previous two. It was ok though. You played a great track though. Fiiiiiirrrrrrre

I enjoyed the Loudness track. Hadn't heard that before. I've got thunder in the east and lightning strikes, plus Soldier of Fortune.

Lowdz · « **Reply #5676 on:** November 11, 2016, 11:08:18 AM »

I liked that Drive track, never heard of them. Will sample some more on YT and might be purchase worthy.

Brighton Rock were a good band. Vixen were ok too but I have hard time with female guitarists. It's just not right. Saw them supporting someone back in the day. Edit - quick check of google says it was Deep Purple.

Free Like An Eagle is the only track I've heard by Talk of the Town. what's the rest of the album like? I guess a bit patchy as it didn't make the first podcast.

Ah, up to the Night Ranger. It's ok, not their best but certainly not the worst thing ever as TAC says, but I bet it was too soft for Ben! Compared to the majority of Frontiers' recent stuff it's a masterpiece.

Screamer - agree with Brent on the singer. I liked it but wouldn't want to listen to a full album of that shrieking. Very pitchy.

Lowdz · « **Reply #5677 on:** November 11, 2016, 11:28:18 AM »

I bought the Greg Howe album but didn't rate it. Too jazzy for me at the time as I was into the neo classical thing. I love it now. Great player.

TAC · « **Reply #5678 on:** November 11, 2016, 01:10:27 PM »

I don't remember The Flame being that bad. It has not aged well.

wolfking · « **Reply #5679 on:** November 11, 2016, 03:49:00 PM »

Quote from: TAC on November 11, 2016, 01:10:27 PM

I don't remember The Flame being that bad. It has not aged well.

I'm with Brent, I always liked that song.

TAC · « **Reply #5680 on:** November 11, 2016, 03:51:29 PM »

I don't remember minding it when it came out. Maybe it just felt out of place on a DTF Podcast. I just don't think it has aged well. It sounded really wimpy. Of course it was thrash metal compared to the Night Ranger tune!

wolfking · « **Reply #5681 on:** November 11, 2016, 04:40:03 PM »

Having a listen to the new Pretty Maids. Pretty damn good, might be worth a purchase.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #5682 on:** November 12, 2016, 07:43:10 PM »

I was listening to Dio's Magica and Killing the Dragon today. I know Magica gets a lot of rave reviews, but I just tend to find it decent, not much more than that. I enjoy Killing the Dragon a lot more; it has much more of the classic Dio sound.

And speaking of Magica, I let that spoken word Magica story play out at the end of the disc. I love Dio, but that has to be 18 minutes of the most tripe I've ever heard.

TAC · « **Reply #5683 on:** November 12, 2016, 07:48:46 PM »

I'm with you completely on all counts, Jason. Majica has a couple of good tunes. Losing My Insanity comes to mind. And while Killing The Dragon isn't great, I feel it's the best of the latter day Dio albums.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #5684 on:** November 12, 2016, 08:14:42 PM »

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 12, 2016, 07:43:10 PM

I was listening to Dio's Magica and Killing the Dragon today. I know Magica gets a lot of rave reviews, but I just tend to find it decent, not much more than that. I enjoy Killing the Dragon a lot more; it has much more of the classic Dio sound.

I agree. Magica hasn't grabbed me, but I really enjoy Killing the Dragon overall, especially the title track.

wolfking · « **Reply #5685 on:** November 13, 2016, 03:39:25 AM »

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 12, 2016, 07:43:10 PM

I was listening to Dio's Magica and Killing the Dragon today. I know Magica gets a lot of rave reviews, but I just tend to find it decent, not much more than that. I enjoy Killing the Dragon a lot more; it has much more of the classic Dio sound.

And speaking of Magica, I let that spoken word Magica story play out at the end of the disc. I love Dio, but that has to be 18 minutes of the most tripe I've ever heard.

Killing the Dragon is a solid record from top to bottom.

Magica is actually one of my fav Dio records, I always had a soft spot for it, but yeah, the story is pretty naff.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #5686 on:** November 13, 2016, 12:54:43 PM »

For me, nothing comes close to the first three Dio albums. I found there to be a dip after that.

TAC · « **Reply #5687 on:** November 13, 2016, 02:13:08 PM »

I remember thinking that Sacred Heart was a huge dip. It has aged well, but a lot of the rest of Dio's catalog ended up being fairly mediocre. I still love Dream Evil and Lock Up The Wolves.

Lowdz · « **Reply #5688 on:** November 13, 2016, 04:16:18 PM »

Quote from: jjrock88 on November 13, 2016, 12:54:43 PM

For me, nothing comes close to the first three Dio albums. I found there to be a dip after that.

First four for me. Magical was shit and I didn't enjoy much at all after that.

Lowdz · « **Reply #5689 on:** November 13, 2016, 04:30:54 PM »

Still on the podcast. The Impelliterri track isn't great. The remake on his new album doesn't do the job either. The only tack I liked on that ep was the Somewhere Over The Rainbow cover. Still play that a lot. And it's on my phone as a ringtone

What album by Petra would you recommend?

bl5150 · « **Reply #5690 on:** November 13, 2016, 04:44:20 PM »

I love Sacred Heart and LUTW

(or the less plodding half of LUTW anyway...........some of my faves from him)

Quote from: Lowdz on November 13, 2016, 04:30:54 PM

Still on the podcast. The Impelliterri track isn't great. The remake on his new album doesn't do the job either. The only tack I liked on that ep was the Somewhere Over The Rainbow cover. Still play that a lot. And it's on my phone as a ringtone

What album by Petra would you recommend?

Funnily enough someone else PM'd me about how cool the Impelliterri track was

I'm not totally across the whole Petra discog as , like I said in the podcast , it varies from melodic hard rock/metal to some of the wimpiest stuff you'll hear anywhere.

To the best of my knowledge (and for the tastes around here) the best places to start would be On Fire (as per 1988 podcast), Beyond Belief and Jekyll and Hyde. The title track from Jeckyll and Hyde is super heavy for them and a cool song - from memory the rest of the album didn't quite live up to that track.

TAC · « **Reply #5691 on:** November 13, 2016, 06:32:41 PM »

Quote from: bl5150 on November 13, 2016, 04:44:20 PM

Funnily enough someone else PM'd me about how cool the Impelliterri track was

It sure as hell wasn't me!

I'd never heard that before. I just thought it was some form of Alcatrazz, but of course Bonnett sang with Impelliteri. I do remember that, but never checked it out.

Big Hath · « **Reply #5692 on:** November 13, 2016, 06:37:42 PM »

ditto on those three for Petra.

TAC · « **Reply #5693 on:** November 13, 2016, 06:43:02 PM »

I want to say that I sampled some Petra somewhere along the way. I had seen them referenced and I must've sampled one of those wimpier things. I seem to remember not being impressed at the time. Of course this was a long time ago.

TAC · « **Reply #5694 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:20:30 PM »

Looking at Issue 37, 1983, there's an article on Rox. I bought their album and the LP is still in my attic!

bl5150 · « **Reply #5695 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:21:35 PM »

Totally off topic ( I really don't want to join the P/R section) but if you enjoy Baldwin doing Donald Trump then check this guy out. Amazing (and Sanders is great too).

https://youtu.be/YfXdmHseiFA

Maybe not totally off topic as there is a reference to Blondie at about 16.10

Another couple : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwMPyUxQe4A and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ8j0NZyXVE

TAC · « **Reply #5696 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:25:31 PM »

Blondie!!

Way better than you think!

TAC · « **Reply #5697 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:49:09 PM »

JJ will be very happy to find out that in Issue 38, there's a Queen City Kids review!

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #5698 on:** November 13, 2016, 09:16:03 PM »

Quote from: TAC on November 13, 2016, 02:13:08 PM

I remember thinking that Sacred Heart was a huge dip.

That's because it is.

After the first two albums, Lock Up The Wolves and Kill the Dragon are the only Dio albums I listen to with any regularity. It's not that I dislike the rest of his music, but imo none of it is close to the same level of quality.

Prog Snob · « **Reply #5699 on:** November 13, 2016, 10:22:07 PM »

If anyone is interested, I grabbed a Tony Harnell bootleg from 2012 in NYC off of Dime.

wolfking · « **Reply #5700 on:** November 14, 2016, 04:40:30 AM »

I would actually say that Sacred Heart may be my fav Dio album.

wolfking · « **Reply #5701 on:** November 14, 2016, 04:41:00 AM »

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/helloween-to-be-rejoined-by-michael-kiske-kai-hansen-for-pumpkins-united-world-tour/

Interesting.

TAC · « **Reply #5702 on:** November 14, 2016, 08:20:57 AM »

Quote from: wolfking on November 14, 2016, 04:41:00 AM

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/helloween-to-be-rejoined-by-michael-kiske-kai-hansen-for-pumpkins-united-world-tour/

Interesting.

Wow!!

jjrock88 · « **Reply #5703 on:** November 14, 2016, 09:45:25 AM »

The video of the reunion was posted in the Helloween section. This is very cool news and I hope a new album with everybody involved will be part of this package.

Lowdz · « **Reply #5704 on:** November 14, 2016, 10:58:02 AM »

Quote from: wolfking on November 14, 2016, 04:40:30 AM

I would actually say that Sacred Heart may be my fav Dio album.

It's not mine but it's up there. Never got the love for Lock Up the Wolves. Start of his fall from grace there. Nothing after Dream Evil got close to Sacred Heart.

News: Paralyzed official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7m7l8iqGAk

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