The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!

[bl5150]

Sad news.  As a band they never did much for me but a lot of the enjoyment in metal (to borrow from Jon Oliva) is "the characters" and he was sure one of them.

[jjrock88]

sad news

[Lowdz]

Sad news indeed. Live fast, die young indeed. I used to love his drumming. I liked Motörhead when I was first getting into metal and bands were few and far between. I outgrew them pretty quickly and haven't heard anything after about 1983.

[bl5150]

I'm always wary of Erik Martensson and his samey writing but this Nordic Union project (him and Ronnie Atkins from Pretty Maids singing) could be worth a listen..........coming in January.

[wolfking]

I'm always wary of Erik Martensson and his samey writing but this Nordic Union project (him and Ronnie Atkins from Pretty Maids singing) could be worth a listen..........coming in January.

Whoa, what the fuck, do tell?  Sounds like a wet dream to me.

[wolfking]

Just checked out the details, could be interesting.  Will be a blind purchase for me.  Interesting combination too.

[jingle.boy]

Just checked out the details, could be interesting.  Will be a blind purchase for me.  Interesting combination too.

Agreed... but I'll sample on Spotify first.  Should be a good one.

[BlobVanDam]

New Primal Fear song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLRjJQCqCeo

Not bad. Not bad at all.

[Art]

This song is very cool! They have 3 guitar players now? 

[jjrock88]

No surprise, sounds awesome

[jingle.boy]

Yeah... that was hawt.

[wolfking]

That song is in beast mode.  Fucking great heavy riffs.  The verse is Running in the Dust though.  The whole thing has an amazing groove though.  Songwriting and guitars are all Karlsson.  He really has taken control of this band.  I hope we see a few songs with a lot of guitar interplay between the three of them.  Tom is an amazing lead player.

This song is very cool! They have 3 guitar players now? 

Tom who was the bands original guitarist has rejoined.  Karlsson will not tour and is a studio member only so to speak. 

[TAC]

That song is in beast mode.  Fucking great heavy riffs. 

Yes!

I should really like this band more than I do. Not that I don't like them. I think they will be one of my New Year's resolution bands. I have 16:6, Delivering The Black, and Unbreakable, but they've never really caught on and held my attention.

[jingle.boy]

That song is in beast mode.  Fucking great heavy riffs. 

Yes!

I should really like this band more than I do. Not that I don't like them. I think they will be one of my New Year's resolution bands. I have 16:6, Delivering The Black, and Unbreakable, but they've never really caught on and held my attention.

I prefer the newer stuff.  Delivering the Black and Unbreakable are excellent.  16:6 and Seven Seals are ok.  Other than that, I just have the compilation Metal is Forever

[jjrock88]

The best compliment I can give Primal Fear is that they are the best 80's heavy metal band ever, that isn't from the 80s.

[TAC]

I felt that way about early Hammerfall.

[wolfking]

I felt that way about early Hammerfall.

Totally.

Even though Delivering the Black is by far my fav from the band, Seven Seals, Devil's Ground and Black Sun are not far behind.  Delivering the Black aside, I'd much prefer the older stuff.

Check out those three Tim.

[bl5150]

I don't have it all but I prefer the older stuff as a rule.

This new song is solid but with 3 guitarists I was expecting a bit more going on ............sounds like they came up with one chord each      Pretty "by the numbers" for mine.

[wolfking]

This new song is solid but with 3 guitarists I was expecting a bit more going on

This was my only single issue with the song.  Other than that I love, crunchy, heavy and groovy.

[BlobVanDam]

This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.

[wolfking]

This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.

They will only have 2 guitarists in a live setting.

I think this is the only reason why they are a 3 guitar band now.  Karlsson doesn't want to tour but is a crucial part of the band at the moment and Tom obviously needed the work and seemed to like playing with the band live again I guess.  Pure convenience, not for a 3 way attack.  I'd like more from 3 of them on record, but I'm not expecting major things they can't reproduce live either.

[bl5150]

This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.

I didn't mean in terms of blazing guitarwork all over the place Blob..........more some melody/rhythm ideas that I haven't heard a zillion times before.  Sure - sometimes a single can be "simple" on purpose , but it also often has a very memorable chorus or something that makes it work best as the single.

For me this is just PF production line stuff (which is still solid) , but they have always been a little hit and miss for me.  When they hit , they hit big (like JJ's roulette song) but they miss a lot with me where they don't seem to with most of the regulars in here, which is cool.  I had a listen to Nuclear Fire the other day and I reckon I liked most of the songs on that better than this one and there were a few rippers that I liked much better than this , or just about any of their recent material really.

[wolfking]

That's why I was surprised Jason got a 10 with his submission.  He picked very well on that occasion.

I'm with Blob though I guess.  I don't want too much going on for the sake of it, and IMO, the riffing here is strong and doesn't need layers or melodies or anything.  There's also a chance this could be an edit, like When Death Comes Knocking.  Doubt it cause there's no bonus track I guess.

[BlobVanDam]

This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.

They will only have 2 guitarists in a live setting.

I think this is the only reason why they are a 3 guitar band now.  Karlsson doesn't want to tour but is a crucial part of the band at the moment and Tom obviously needed the work and seemed to like playing with the band live again I guess.  Pure convenience, not for a 3 way attack.  I'd like more from 3 of them on record, but I'm not expecting major things they can't reproduce live either.

In that case, I'd say even less reason to utilize 3 guitars too often unless necessary. Seems like a bit of a weird situation though.

[jjrock88]

What do you guys think of the new drummer? What's his background?

[wolfking]

This is the single, so it's possibly the most straightforward of the bunch, and didn't really call for more. I also prefer that a 3 guitar band doesn't overload a song with guitar parts just because they can. It's great live when they can do two rhythm parts plus a solo, or a harmonized lead with a riff behind it, but I don't want them feeling obligated to have lots of parts in the studio for the sake of it.

They will only have 2 guitarists in a live setting.

I think this is the only reason why they are a 3 guitar band now.  Karlsson doesn't want to tour but is a crucial part of the band at the moment and Tom obviously needed the work and seemed to like playing with the band live again I guess.  Pure convenience, not for a 3 way attack.  I'd like more from 3 of them on record, but I'm not expecting major things they can't reproduce live either.

In that case, I'd say even less reason to utilize 3 guitars too often unless necessary. Seems like a bit of a weird situation though.

It's definitely a unique situation.  Magnus just doesn't seem like a touring type of guy.  I don't think he's ever done a full tour with them since he's been with the band.  That's how Alex came onto the scene, he was Magnus' fill on the 16.6 tour I believe. 

What do you guys think of the new drummer? What's his background?

The drums on this track sound amazing.  Played with UDO for ten years and played on the last Hardline I believe.  Seems like a fine replacement.

[wolfking]

I thought this new song sounded heavier than normal too.  It's tuned down to C.  PF have been playing in D since Seven Seals.  I'm not sure if they have ever gone this low before.

[Lowdz]

Last In Line first track, the Viv Campbell, app ice, Bain DIO tribute. It's ok I guess not setting my world on fire. No fireworks from Viv, Def Lep may have fire out.

Singer lacks range on this frack, it's all very samey.

https://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2015-11-17/last-in-line-launch-devil-in-me-video

[BlobVanDam]

I really like the singer, and he actually has better range than Dio (although nobody has the power of Dio), and I love the production and the style, but unfortunately this song did nothing for me. It's ok, but nothing standout. It's like AC/DC trying to write a Sabbath song.

I'm still excited to hear the rest of the album, but this song misses the mark.

[Art]

The singer sounds more like Glenn Hughes than Dio to me.

It´s all very well done, but the song in itself it´s just ok, nothing special. But i´ll check out the rest of the record.

[Lowdz]

I really like the singer, and he actually has better range than Dio (although nobody has the power of Dio), and I love the production and the style, but unfortunately this song did nothing for me. It's ok, but nothing standout. It's like AC/DC trying to write a Sabbath song.

I'm still excited to hear the rest of the album, but this song misses the mark.

I just felt he needed to go higher at points in the song and had just... Didnt

[wolfking]

I really like the singer but, but the song is pretty shit IMO.  Still will check it out for sure.

It's like AC/DC trying to write a Sabbath song.

That's exactly what it's like, well done.

[jjrock88]

Song seems a little flat, but I'll still check it out further.

[BlobVanDam]

I really like the singer, and he actually has better range than Dio (although nobody has the power of Dio), and I love the production and the style, but unfortunately this song did nothing for me. It's ok, but nothing standout. It's like AC/DC trying to write a Sabbath song.

I'm still excited to hear the rest of the album, but this song misses the mark.

I just felt he needed to go higher at points in the song and had just... Didnt

He went higher in (I think) the second verse. Hopefully he goes a bit more balls to the wall in other tracks. I want to hear some faster tracks like Stand Up And Shout or I Speed At Night with some killer vocals.

[wolfking]

Sounds like they really have the potential to do songs like Shout or I Speed at Night.  Hopefully we get it and it's not just all mid paced plodders.