Author Topic: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread! (Read 909712 times)

bl5150 · « **Reply #1330 on:** April 28, 2015, 07:03:20 AM »

Don't hold me to it but I'm pretty sure it was recorded specifically for the re-issue rather than being a leftover from the AOC recording sessions. it may well have been written back around that time though.

wolfking · « **Reply #1331 on:** April 28, 2015, 07:11:48 AM »

That's cool. That's how re-releases should be, bands putting in an effort and getting something new and making it worthwhile. The covers on that one are pretty decent too.

bl5150 · « **Reply #1332 on:** April 28, 2015, 07:26:42 AM »

That Kick Axe you asked about jj................it's solid but that's about it. They really only have a couple of songs that I return to . On the whole I'd rate it weaker than Vices....and I rated Vices 78%

jjrock88 · « **Reply #1333 on:** April 28, 2015, 08:55:35 AM »

Yeah everything I've heard from Kick Axe I would say is just decent. Nothing too great.

And that Virgin Steele album cover is pretty cool. I saw on blabber that there were three different album covers for that disc

Lowdz · « **Reply #1334 on:** April 28, 2015, 12:22:40 PM »

I'd love to hear Virgin Steele with a huge ManOwaR style production. Things always sound a bit "done on the cheap", with DD trying to sound like a choir instead of a real huge choir. If you're going to do epic you've got to be EPIC.

wolfking · « **Reply #1335 on:** April 28, 2015, 04:28:06 PM »

Quote from: Lowdz on April 28, 2015, 12:22:40 PM

I'd love to hear Virgin Steele with a huge ManOwaR style production. Things always sound a bit "done on the cheap", with DD trying to sound like a choir instead of a real huge choir. If you're going to do epic you've got to be EPIC.

You make a really good point here. The last albm was just okay, but it was mainly the shitty production that let it down.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #1336 on:** April 28, 2015, 04:44:59 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 04:28:06 PM

Quote from: Lowdz on April 28, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
I'd love to hear Virgin Steele with a huge ManOwaR style production. Things always sound a bit "done on the cheap", with DD trying to sound like a choir instead of a real huge choir. If you're going to do epic you've got to be EPIC.

You make a really good point here. The last albm was just okay, but it was mainly the shitty production that let it down.

I found that the album before that, Visions of Eden, just seemed to drag on. I never bothered with the last one.

bl5150 · « **Reply #1337 on:** April 28, 2015, 05:11:04 PM »

I agree - they've always sounded like a half assed Manowar mostly due to production issues but Defeis' songwriting has at times been some of the best in the genre. Defeis writing songs (and producing videos

) for Manowar could be amazing , as would a Manowar style production on some of VS's material but they've never managed to totally nail everything .

If I had to name a favourite song I suppose it would be The Burning of Rome. Age of Consent has some downright dogs but that and Desert Plains are top notch.

wolfking · « **Reply #1338 on:** April 28, 2015, 05:19:01 PM »

Quote from: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 04:44:59 PM

Quote from: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 04:28:06 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on April 28, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
I'd love to hear Virgin Steele with a huge ManOwaR style production. Things always sound a bit "done on the cheap", with DD trying to sound like a choir instead of a real huge choir. If you're going to do epic you've got to be EPIC.

You make a really good point here. The last albm was just okay, but it was mainly the shitty production that let it down.

I found that the album before that, Visions of Eden, just seemed to drag on. I never bothered with the last one.

Yeah, a couple of good songs, but yeah a struggle to listen to.

Quote from: bl5150 on April 28, 2015, 05:11:04 PM

I agree - they've always sounded like a half assed Manowar mostly due to production issues but Defeis' songwriting has at times been some of the best in the genre. Defeis writing songs (and producing videos ) for Manowar could be amazing , as would a Manowar style production on some of VS's material but they've never managed to totally nail everything .

If I had to name a favourite song I suppose it would be The Burning of Rome. Age of Consent has some downright dogs but that and Desert Plains are top notch.

I still gotta properly listen to all the old albums I got a few months back. Invictus was easily the best IMO with Marriage Part 1 I think being a close second.

Burning of Rome is definitely the highlight of AOC.

TAC · « **Reply #1339 on:** April 28, 2015, 06:02:35 PM »

I don't have anything to offer to the Virgin Steel discussion, but if I ever do a TAC Top 50 v.2, Jack Starr's Out Of The Darkness would surely be on it.

bl5150 · « **Reply #1340 on:** April 28, 2015, 06:07:47 PM »

Quote from: TAC on April 28, 2015, 06:02:35 PM

I don't have anything to offer to the Virgin Steel discussion, but if I ever do a TAC Top 50 v.2, Jack Starr's Out Of The Darkness would surely be on it.

Just checked on that and I reviewed it for 1984. Didn't do much for me . No Turning Back had a lot more on it that I liked.

TAC · « **Reply #1341 on:** April 28, 2015, 06:12:01 PM »

Well I was a big Riot fan and the fact that Rhett Forrester was on it was cool. In 1984, that was a bitchin' album.

bl5150 · « **Reply #1342 on:** April 28, 2015, 06:13:55 PM »

Rhett Forrester's (RIP) output frustrates me - he's one of those guys where I like his voice but he's never sung on many songs that I like .

In my 1984 KISS and Van Halen were bitchin and that is all

jjrock88 · « **Reply #1343 on:** April 28, 2015, 06:23:33 PM »

Quote from: TAC on April 28, 2015, 06:12:01 PM

Well I was a big Riot fan and the fact that Rhett Forrester was on it was cool. In 1984, that was a bitchin' album.

I'm sure it was brought up before, but did you check out Riots release from last year- Unleash the Fire!

bl5150 · « **Reply #1344 on:** April 28, 2015, 06:29:56 PM »

That Riot (V) album was really strong - a couple of fillers but otherwise very consistent and I rated it somwhere in the mid-high 80's. I'm pretty sure Tim had initial reservations when it was talked about here but rapidly saw the light

jjrock88 · « **Reply #1345 on:** April 28, 2015, 06:55:35 PM »

From what I listened to, it sounded old school and good!

TAC · « **Reply #1346 on:** April 28, 2015, 07:11:10 PM »

The Riot V is a GREAT album!

wolfking · « **Reply #1347 on:** April 28, 2015, 08:09:51 PM »

I'll check this one out too, only know a couple of the old school Riot albums.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #1348 on:** April 28, 2015, 09:01:38 PM »

I haven't heard everything from Riot but "Fire Down Under" is the stand out from what I have heard

wolfking · « **Reply #1349 on:** April 28, 2015, 09:53:04 PM »

That's a great album. Thundersteel is a ripper too.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #1350 on:** April 28, 2015, 10:13:07 PM »

As well as Restless Breed

bl5150 · « **Reply #1351 on:** April 29, 2015, 12:47:12 AM »

Another new singer for Red Dragon Cartel

I expressed my doubts about the last guy but didn't realise it got that bad

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/jake-e-lees-red-dragon-cartel-taps-singer-chas-west-for-next-round-of-dates/

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1352 on:** April 29, 2015, 12:54:47 AM »

Blah. It's not good for a band when they can't get a stable band together, especially when it's the frontman. I was glad they got rid of the first dude, but it doesn't sound like the situation is improving any. I don't expect they'll get to a second album at this rate.

bl5150 · « **Reply #1353 on:** April 29, 2015, 01:10:52 AM »

Jake needs a decent manager - badly.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1354 on:** April 29, 2015, 01:15:28 AM »

He's still got the chops, and even though the album wasn't good overall, there were a few songs that lead me to believe he's still got the ability to write great rock. They need to get their shit together with a real singer, and write an album as a true band.

bl5150 · « **Reply #1355 on:** April 29, 2015, 01:17:03 AM »

if you listen to some of the interview at the bottom with Anthony Esposito it's interesting how much involvement he had in make Ace Frehley a bit less of a trainwreck ,so hopefully he can be a positive influence on Jake and his decision making.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1356 on:** April 29, 2015, 01:20:24 AM »

I didn't check out the video, but I hope he can become a more active part of the band and help bring it to a good place.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #1357 on:** April 29, 2015, 03:06:57 AM »

This Chas West sounds good and has some decent credentials. But overall, this band has been a comedy relief

wolfking · « **Reply #1358 on:** April 29, 2015, 05:11:10 AM »

I couldn't be bothered with this band. Jake deserves so much more. He should just join someone high profile or make a proper supergroup or something.

TAC · « **Reply #1359 on:** April 30, 2015, 03:47:49 PM »

Can't link it from my phone but Bravewords is reporting that Mike Howe is back in Metal Church!!

bl5150 · « **Reply #1360 on:** April 30, 2015, 08:21:14 PM »

Wow........

Blessing In Disguise/Hanging In The Balance got a spot in my Top 50 so I'll be all over this.

bl5150 · « **Reply #1361 on:** April 30, 2015, 10:06:50 PM »

Last weekend in Brazil.........would've loved to be there. I've seen some footage of Ozzy and he sounded pretty good.

wolfking · « **Reply #1362 on:** May 01, 2015, 06:06:27 AM »

Would have went mainly for Primal Fear, Accept and Unisonic, and probably Yngwie.

Cyclopssss · « **Reply #1363 on:** May 01, 2015, 06:24:56 AM »

Would that 'guest' be Bill Ward? Nahh...didn't think so.....

jjrock88 · « **Reply #1364 on:** May 01, 2015, 06:30:05 AM »

Wow what a line up!

And Mike Howe back in Metal Church will be very cool!!

News: Fall Into the Light, official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFxH4kky6z4

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