The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!

[Lowdz]

I’ll give those two a go and report back.
My abiding memory of Annihilator is that they sounded amateurish. Like Metal Church in that regard for me. Not sure how else to explain it. Waters is clearly an immense guitar player though.

[Lowdz]

Brent, just finished retreading your top 5PN and realised there’s a couple there I haven’t played since you did it and even longer. Going to have to listen to Conception and Brazen Abbot. Completely forgot about them.
Eye of the Storm on now!

[jingle.boy]

Brent, just finished retreading your top 5PN and realised there’s a couple there I haven’t played since you did it and even longer. Going to have to listen to Conception and Brazen Abbot. Completely forgot about them.
Eye of the Storm on now!

All four BA albums are top shelf.

[nick_z]

Brent, just finished retreading your top 5PN and realised there’s a couple there I haven’t played since you did it and even longer. Going to have to listen to Conception and Brazen Abbot. Completely forgot about them.
Eye of the Storm on now!

LOVE Conception! Lots of talent there, between Roy Khan on vocals and Tore Ostby on guitar...

[bl5150]

I am pretty much with Nick on Annihilator.................their sweet spot was Never Neverland and Set The World On Fire (although the singer might turn off some as it's not very "metal").   After that it's a bit like Queensryche after Promised Land/HITNF .............I checked back in every now and then to see if they'd done anything decent but they mostly lost me.

I'm starting to lose my musical memory a bit after the last 2 years but here's a few random tracks from their latter albums (other than Carnival....)  that harken back to the vibe of the "classic" period , but they are from albums that are mostly filler.


Torn  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMRfsbr_WIM
Death In Your Eyes  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9iqEQnkpKw   (give it time .....the first minute and a bit is just an excuse for some very cool heavy & melodic guitar work like their best albums)
Pieces of You  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiGfvV5sJh8  (Metallica ripoff i guess but Annihilator were doing this style around the same time as Metallica)




Speaking of Mangini , this is one of my favourite metal band photos .  Spot the odd guy out 

Brent, just finished retreading your top 5PN and realised there’s a couple there I haven’t played since you did it and even longer. Going to have to listen to Conception and Brazen Abbot. Completely forgot about them.
Eye of the Storm on now!

 

[wolfking]

That photo is like the band is actually a 4 piece and Mangini was walking down the street and saw these guys doing a photo shoot.  He quietly comes from the side and sidles in without a sound just in time for a quick snap.

[Lowdz]

That photo is like the band is actually a 4 piece and Mangini was walking down the street and saw these guys doing a photo shoot.  He quietly comes from the side and sidles in without a sound just in time for a quick snap.

He probably didn’t get the memo it was photo day and had a Hawaiian shirt on and they made him strip to his vest 😁
I love the breathing in, chest out pose to look muscly.

[TAC]

That photo is like the band is actually a 4 piece and Mangini was walking down the street and saw these guys doing a photo shoot.  He quietly comes from the side and sidles in without a sound just in time for a quick snap.

Yeah pretty much.



I bought Alice In Hell when it came out, but I never went any further.

[nick_z]

Torn  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMRfsbr_WIM
Death In Your Eyes  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9iqEQnkpKw   (give it time .....the first minute and a bit is just an excuse for some very cool heavy & melodic guitar work like their best albums)
Pieces of You  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiGfvV5sJh8  (Metallica ripoff i guess but Annihilator were doing this style around the same time as Metallica)

Yes, these are all pretty good. I don't think I've ever heard the S/T, actually. Death In Your Eyes is a good example of just how amazing Waters' leads can be, and the melodic stuff he is able to mix in with the thrash...

The very last album, Ballistic Sadistic (2020), is ok too, from what I heard of it. But, speaking of recycling, listen to this:

"Lip Service"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCdTDIbnOho

and then this:
"Knight Jumps Queen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpCefrmlXJQ

I mean, that's gotta be a "wink-wink" homage, right? And the song structure of the "original" (KJQ) is distinctive enough to start with...it's not like it's hard to detect the similarities  And, by the way, Lip Service is not the first re-write either:

"21"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRXk98QtjWA

I bought Alice In Hell when it came out, but I never went any further.

You should go at least a little further and get Never, Neverland. It's excellent. And I think you'd enjoy Set the World on Fire too...

[TAC]

I think after Mangini joined DT, I d-loaded the albums he was on. Really didn't spend any time with them though.

[wolfking]

I'm pretty spotty with Annihilator across the board besides the old classics.  I have a few of their albums though.

[bl5150]

New project for Dave Ellefson

https://www.loudersound.com/news/former-megadeth-bassist-dave-ellefson-unveils-his-new-musical-project-the-lucid?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=classic-rock&fbclid=IwAR1jBxE0Tv0cyzrC_P8dp9QhxJQUqFTpY5tDN_1shLXuKf7bYwqnZCaUmAs


It's not clear yet whether other band members will be involved or if he's just playing with himself 

[wolfking]

New project for Dave Ellefson

https://www.loudersound.com/news/former-megadeth-bassist-dave-ellefson-unveils-his-new-musical-project-the-lucid?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=classic-rock&fbclid=IwAR1jBxE0Tv0cyzrC_P8dp9QhxJQUqFTpY5tDN_1shLXuKf7bYwqnZCaUmAs


It's not clear yet whether other band memebers will be involved or if he's just playing with himself

[TAC]

 

[Lowdz]

 

[Kwyjibo]

Ouch 

But I confess it took me a while.   

[gazinwales]

New single from Majestica - 'Metal United' https://youtu.be/UO37wJG1j2k
Glorious cheese sandwich with some Gary Moore and Sabaton.

[TAC]

Tommy Johansson loves himself some Gary Moore! Will check this when I get home.

[wolfking]

I thought that was fucking shit to be honest.  Who the fuck are these guys?

[jingle.boy]

New Tony MacAlpine (last week at least).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIAYimGibk

Seems to be part of an EP.

[Lowdz]

New Tony MacAlpine (last week at least).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIAYimGibk

Seems to be part of an EP.

Played it last week. It’s pretty good. Better than that last album.

[wolfking]

New Tony MacAlpine (last week at least).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIAYimGibk

Seems to be part of an EP.

Damn that was nice.  Sounds like old school TMac mixed with Planet X.  I thought the last couple lacked melody, but this is a great compromise.

[Lowdz]

New Tony MacAlpine (last week at least).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIAYimGibk

Seems to be part of an EP.

Damn that was nice.  Sounds like old school TMac mixed with Planet X.  I thought the last couple lacked melody, but this is a great compromise.

Love this one. Shred 🤘🤘

https://youtu.be/Zw96UetOz-Q

[TAC]

Nice career spanning interview with Neil Murray.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/neil-murray-whitesnake-black-sabbath-bassist-1211886/

[nick_z]

This kinda randomly came up yesterday. Not necessarily what I go for these days, but it was solid German metal fun  They have been around for a long time and I haven't really checked them out despite seeing them mentioned here and there. Anyone on the thread more familiar?

Catchy, well-written, powerful songs. Nothing earth-shattering, but I enjoyed the listen.

[TAC]

I bought Firesoul when it came out.

And this was my thoughts as well..

Catchy, well-written, powerful songs. Nothing earth-shattering, but I enjoyed the listen.

I'll see if I can spin the new one tonight.

[jingle.boy]

I’ve given Brainstorm a few attempts over the years. Nothing seems to tickle my fancy.

[wolfking]

I’ve given Brainstorm a few attempts over the years. Nothing seems to tickle my fancy.

Pretty sure I have that one on CD.  I think Brent might have been the one that brought this band to my attention from a Podcast maybe?  But yeah, I have similar thoughts.  Scary Creatures was a good album though.

[bl5150]

I have always had Brainstorm as a good "compilation band" - most of their albums have 2 or 3 really good songs and plenty of filler.  Based on my song ratings the two more consistent albums were Downburst (2008) and Midnight Ghost (2018?).   

[Grappler]

Brainstorm is awesome!   

[Lowdz]

Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?

[wolfking]

Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?

Senjutsu.

[nick_z]

Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?

+1 for Senjutsu

Also this:



Not sure it 100% fits the thread, but I think there is enough "classic" in here that it should. I've been pimping this in the "What album.." thread too, and it's been in constant rotation for me the past few days. Brilliant blend of 80s goth/new wave atmospheres and classic hard rock/metal. Their first album from 2019, Mana, is excellent too (they used to be called Idle Hands then, but I believe all of their past stuff is now filed under Unto Others too)

[Lowdz]

Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?

Senjutsu.

🤘🤘🤘

[jingle.boy]

Pretty quiet round here. There must be something new worth listening to?

Senjutsu.

More like Sen-meh-tsu.

I'll let myself out.