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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Moving Pictures
« Reply #280 on: October 17, 2014, 12:48:32 PM »
Marathon is #1 for me.  Then those mentioned are right up there.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Moving Pictures
« Reply #281 on: October 17, 2014, 12:49:38 PM »
Marathon is #1 for me.  Then those mentioned are right up there.

If I had never seen Rush live, I don't know that I would have a true appreciation of Marathon. Loved the old laser show with the laser man running.
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Moving Pictures
« Reply #282 on: October 17, 2014, 12:57:03 PM »
I'd have to think a little about what I'd put as #5, but LVS and 2112 would be 3 and 4 respectively.
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Moving Pictures
« Reply #283 on: October 17, 2014, 12:58:32 PM »
Marathon is #1 for me.  Then those mentioned are right up there.

If I had never seen Rush live, I don't know that I would have a true appreciation of Marathon. Loved the old laser show with the laser man running.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Moving Pictures
« Reply #284 on: October 17, 2014, 01:11:12 PM »
2112 and Cygnus X-1 Book 1: The Voyage constantly fight over the top spot for me. The Camera Eye and La Villa are also way up there, probably in my top 5. I imagine Jacob's Ladder isn't too far behind.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Moving Pictures
« Reply #285 on: October 17, 2014, 01:27:03 PM »
I started to do a Rush song top 50 and had to give up. I had about 25 songs in my top 5  :biggrin:

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #286 on: October 17, 2014, 02:10:12 PM »
Okay, it's only been two days since my MP write-up, but let's get the live album out of the way so we can dig into the synth era next week. :hat

So yeah, say what you want about Exit...Stage Left now.  Like I said before, I am not into reviewing live albums, so we'll see if others have more to say. :lol :lol


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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #287 on: October 17, 2014, 02:14:03 PM »
so we can dig into the synth era next week.

Oh can't wait for that..  :yeahright


Exit Stage left was the first album that came out that I was aware of the band. In the summer between my 7th and 8th grades, I got everything by the band on 8 track!!

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #288 on: October 17, 2014, 02:20:45 PM »
Okay, it's only been two days since my MP write-up, but let's get the live album out of the way so we can dig into the synth era next week. :hat

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #289 on: October 17, 2014, 02:30:30 PM »
Power Windows is my favorite Rush album, so yes, looking forward to the next 4 albums on this. This live album made me appreciate Jacob's Ladder a lot more.
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #290 on: October 17, 2014, 02:33:21 PM »
I listened to this live album last week, and I have to say, it was a really pleasant listen. Loved the tracklist.
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #291 on: October 17, 2014, 02:54:00 PM »
The tracklist is great, the tour was great, and the album they were touring was great.  But the sound of this album is weird.  It may be that it was the first DDD album I'd ever heard and my ears hadn't adjusted yet, or it may be that they hadn't yet figured out how to make DDD albums sound good because it was so new, but somehow, despite being a live album with amazing performances, this album always sounded very dry and lifeless to me.  I never quite figured it out.  Then an asshole ex-roommate of mine stole my copy of the album (along with a bunch of others) and sold it for drug money, so I haven't listened to it in years.  But I remember it sounding weird.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #292 on: October 17, 2014, 03:11:17 PM »
The tracklist is great, the tour was great, and the album they were touring was great.  But the sound of this album is weird.  It may be that it was the first DDD album I'd ever heard and my ears hadn't adjusted yet, or it may be that they hadn't yet figured out how to make DDD albums sound good because it was so new, but somehow, despite being a live album with amazing performances, this album always sounded very dry and lifeless to me.  I never quite figured it out.  Then an asshole ex-roommate of mine stole my copy of the album (along with a bunch of others) and sold it for drug money, so I haven't listened to it in years.  But I remember it sounding weird.

Yeah there was something about this album that just sounded dull and lifeless. At the time I loved live albums but I'd take the studio versions of these songs every time (though I like Broon's Bane), and I wouldn't say that about Strangers In The Night, Alive II, Unleashed In The East etc.
It sounded that way on vinyl too.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #293 on: October 17, 2014, 03:24:52 PM »
The tracklist is great, the tour was great, and the album they were touring was great.  But the sound of this album is weird.  It may be that it was the first DDD album I'd ever heard and my ears hadn't adjusted yet, or it may be that they hadn't yet figured out how to make DDD albums sound good because it was so new, but somehow, despite being a live album with amazing performances, this album always sounded very dry and lifeless to me.  I never quite figured it out.  Then an asshole ex-roommate of mine stole my copy of the album (along with a bunch of others) and sold it for drug money, so I haven't listened to it in years.  But I remember it sounding weird.

Yeah there was something about this album that just sounded dull and lifeless. At the time I loved live albums but I'd take the studio versions of these songs every time (though I like Broon's Bane), and I wouldn't say that about Strangers In The Night, Alive II, Unleashed In The East etc.
It sounded that way on vinyl too.
I think part of that speaks to the strength of of the studio production for AFTK through MP, especially PW and MP. 70's Kiss, Priest, and UFO all seemed to have remedial productions.
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #294 on: October 17, 2014, 03:43:43 PM »
Yeah, "Broon's Bane" was cool.  It was like Wow, an instrumental acoustic intro to the song!  So groundbreaking, so awesome, so 1981!

Seriously though, it was cool.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #295 on: October 17, 2014, 04:06:05 PM »
Moving Pictures - Great album, even though I like it just a little less than PEW, possibly because the songs on side 1 have been over-played, both on radio and on tour. Side 2 is the more experimental side, which I enjoy a little more, mostly because of "The Camera Eye" and "Witch Hunt". There really isn't much else I can say or add about this album that hasn't already been said, so I'll move on to...

Exit...Stage Left. If ATWAS was the band's raw album, this was a complete 180. This sounds like a studio album without a lot of crowd, and fading out/in between some tracks. It's very noticeably pieced together, although the runs of songs sound amazing, particularly "Broon's Bane/The Trees/Xanadu". The live rendition of "La Villa Strangiato" absolutely slays, as does "Jacob's Ladder". To me, this is the band's Seconds Out, their Yessongs/i], their Welcome Back My Friends To The Show That Never Ends - it's got some epic moments, great live sound, but it does sound a BIT too sterile, even after a couple remasterings, although the latest version from the Sector box sets is an improvement.

One of my favorite live albums, but after creating my personal Complete Live Tour set, the live setlists for the PEW and MP tours are better in completion than the ESL track list. I do wish we'd get complete soundboards for BOTH tours, official or otherwise, but what we do have from boots and official releases is great.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #296 on: October 17, 2014, 04:18:15 PM »
One of my favorite live albums, but after creating my personal Complete Live Tour set, the live setlists for the PEW and MP tours are better in completion than the ESL track list. I do wish we'd get complete soundboards for BOTH tours, official or otherwise, but what we do have from boots and official releases is great.
I agree 100%.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #297 on: October 17, 2014, 04:30:17 PM »
Seconds Out was the second live album from Genesis.  It was long regarded as the definitive live Genesis album, and still is by many.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #298 on: October 17, 2014, 04:34:23 PM »
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #299 on: October 17, 2014, 04:39:33 PM »
That's not your avatar, that's your "Personal Text".  Too bad, too.  That band went through a lot of changes stylistically, and it's a shame that none of it appeals to you.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #300 on: October 17, 2014, 04:59:05 PM »
This is *THE DEFINITIVE VERSION OF YYZ*!!!   This drum solo is so good, that it was the first time I ever heard a drum solo in regular rotation on local rock radio.   This drum solo has over the years become the most memorized and hailed drum solos in rock history.     I love this drum solo...can you tell?  :hat

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #301 on: October 17, 2014, 05:15:54 PM »
The tracklist is great, the tour was great, and the album they were touring was great.  But the sound of this album is weird.  It may be that it was the first DDD album I'd ever heard and my ears hadn't adjusted yet, or it may be that they hadn't yet figured out how to make DDD albums sound good because it was so new, but somehow, despite being a live album with amazing performances, this album always sounded very dry and lifeless to me.  I never quite figured it out.  Then an asshole ex-roommate of mine stole my copy of the album (along with a bunch of others) and sold it for drug money, so I haven't listened to it in years.  But I remember it sounding weird.

Completely agree.  It sounds sterile.  I love the songs, but like you said it sounds lifeless.

BTW, I got it for Christmas with, wait for it................AC/DC - For Those About To Rock.  Live album for the young mind, one album for my groin. :lol
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #302 on: October 17, 2014, 06:24:29 PM »
This is *THE DEFINITIVE VERSION OF YYZ*!!!   This drum solo is so good, that it was the first time I ever heard a drum solo in regular rotation on local rock radio.   This drum solo has over the years become the most memorized and hailed drum solos in rock history.     I love this drum solo...can you tell?  :hat

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #303 on: October 17, 2014, 06:34:33 PM »
I'm not even a drummer, and I swear it's the only drum solo that I have MEMORIZED NOTE FOR NOTE. 

BTW, my second favorite drum solo of all time?   I made an audio rip of the Images and Words Live in Tokyo home video.   I cannot figure out why MP hates solos so much.   I think *that* solo has the same "musical" quality that Neil gave his solos....I think Mike was extremely good at creating "musical" solos when he did them, and I can't figure out why he didn't want to do them anymore, and expressed a dislike for them.  And I put that IAWLiT solo very close the the YYZ solo. 
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #304 on: October 17, 2014, 07:25:02 PM »
This is the first time I've heard this live album being called "sterile". I'm surprised ,I always liked the sound of it a lot and it's a really great album. Perfect if I want a fix of this era of Rush. The only thing I don't like are the fades between songs. Not sure why they couldn't just crossfade audience noise together. But that's a minor gripe, the music itself is top notch. Not of the magnitude of other live albums, but still a lot of fun.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #305 on: October 17, 2014, 07:42:03 PM »
This is *THE DEFINITIVE VERSION OF YYZ*!!!   This drum solo is so good, that it was the first time I ever heard a drum solo in regular rotation on local rock radio.   This drum solo has over the years become the most memorized and hailed drum solos in rock history.     I love this drum solo...can you tell?  :hat

Thank you J-dude, I was surprised no one mentioned this before you.  It is so great that transition into and out of the drum solo, plus I like the fact that the solo isn't overly long like it's become in the last 20 years.  Take YYZ and LVS alone are enough to warrant buying this CD.  The Lerxst in Wonderland solo on LVS is different from the studio version, but chill-inducing nonetheless.

Other than that, yeah the production just makes everything seem so distant and dry unfortunately.  Like they were playing behind a curtain, and all the fadeouts don't help trying to make it feel like you're actually at a concert rather than listening to a bunch of separate takes.

But yeah, I'll take ESL over the other live albums.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #306 on: October 18, 2014, 07:05:16 AM »
Despite not being an actual concert release, this is a great live release.  I had the VHS of it, that got a lot of plays - usually accompanied with some "environmental enhancements" for me and my buds, and the phrase "eeRE!!!".  :hat  Geddy's double-neck bass was :omg.

Drum solo - epic

LVS - still god-tier.

Though I prefer a couple of their later live releases, this too was the release in the late 80s that continued my expansion of the band beyond just the popular hits.  Listened to the shit out of this before my first concert in 1991 - and got baked out of my mind.

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #307 on: October 18, 2014, 08:34:43 AM »
This is *THE DEFINITIVE VERSION OF YYZ*!!!   This drum solo is so good, that it was the first time I ever heard a drum solo in regular rotation on local rock radio.   This drum solo has over the years become the most memorized and hailed drum solos in rock history.     I love this drum solo...can you tell?  :hat

Thank you J-dude, I was surprised no one mentioned this before you.  It is so great that transition into and out of the drum solo, plus I like the fact that the solo isn't overly long like it's become in the last 20 years.  Take YYZ and LVS alone are enough to warrant buying this CD.  The Lerxst in Wonderland solo on LVS is different from the studio version, but chill-inducing nonetheless.

Other than that, yeah the production just makes everything seem so distant and dry unfortunately.  Like they were playing behind a curtain, and all the fadeouts don't help trying to make it feel like you're actually at a concert rather than listening to a bunch of separate takes.

But yeah, I'll take ESL over the other live albums.

Yeah, I can understand some of the complaints about the weird sound on the vocal songs, but both YYZ and LVS are insane on ELS. In fact, I greatly prefer the ELS version of Lerxst in Wonderland over the original. :hefdaddy
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #308 on: October 18, 2014, 12:06:10 PM »
Geddy's double-neck bass was :omg.

 

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Moving Pictures
« Reply #309 on: October 18, 2014, 12:15:41 PM »
At the risk of copping out, I don't know what I can say about Moving Pictures that hasn't been said many times by many of us on this forum.  It is easily the band's most popular, accessible and iconic studio record.  While not number 1 on my list, if someone else puts it there, and many do, I have a hard time disagreeing with it.  This, like 2112 and Permanent Waves, is so perfect that it is impossible to find really any fault with it.  Nearly every song on it is a Rush classic, and while "Red Barchetta" has long been my favorite, it seems like every song from this is someone's favorite song from this record.  They were firing on all cylinders at this point, and Moving Pictures is the result. 

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Regarding the album cover, this has long been one of my favorites of theirs.  I love the triple meaning of the words 'moving pictures.'  Great stuff.

More of a fan of side two than side 1, especially Witch Hunt and Vital Signs. YYZ and Red Barchetta are the stars of side 1.

This album arrived at the right time, too.




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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #310 on: October 18, 2014, 12:53:07 PM »
Okay, it's only been two days since my MP write-up, but let's get the live album out of the way so we can dig into the synth era next week. :hat

So yeah, say what you want about Exit...Stage Left now.  Like I said before, I am not into reviewing live albums, so we'll see if others have more to say. :lol :lol



An iconic live album for a number of reasons...great tracklisting, kind of a greatest hits live release, took advantage of the success of Moving Pictures and kept the band on the road, showcased the what the band could do live for newer fans of the band.....

All that said, there isn't much live about this live album.  In the process of  fixing a few mistakes, a lot of the energy was drained from this album as others have said.  I used to listen to this a lot when it came out, mostly because that was all there was if I wanted to hear anything live from that period (and I wasn't quite aware of bootlegs yet. I think this album may have been the reason I sought out bootlegs  or it just could have been that I'm a geek)  Found out later that this wasn't particularly representative of the band live at all as a lot of the humor is removed from the album. It's a favorite album cover of mine too.

Also found out later (via bootleg) that a playful intro to La Villa Strangiato was cut from the version they used too.

At least Natural Science and Vital Signs were left on the cutting room floor (Vital Signs live appeared a short time later and the B-side to New World Man. Who knows what happened to Natural Science...)

It's kind of a shame that the "classic" period that this album is supposed to represent kind of falls short, but I think that's partly due to the technology at the time. Maybe it's similar to the way that The Song Remains The Same (musically) isn't as good of an indicator of what Led Zeppelin was either.


More useless trivia about the cover from Neil:

"We wanted to have Snaggelpus's tail on there. You know,'Exit...Stage Left', with a picture of just his tail. Forget it! They wanted all kinds of legal hassles and tons of money." ------Neil     Canoe online 10/16/1996

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #311 on: October 18, 2014, 02:02:44 PM »
Fun Facts:

A Farewell to Kings:
- the band started headlining ... with Cheap Trick and Max Webster opening
- the album was recorded in England
- not sure if it was ever seriously considered, but rather than adding a fourth member, this is where they REALLY pushed themselves instrumentally. "We were faced with the choice of adding a band member or else getting really ambitious and doing it ourselves.  We wanted more textures, new sounds."  -- Peart
- it was their first certified Gold album in the US
- Cinderella Man was lyrically based on the movie Mr. Deeds Goes to Town; Xanadu inspired by Citizen Kane

Hemispheres:
- 'the album that nearly killed the band' - everything was bombastic ... arrangements, performance, production, and most of all, cost (as they ran out of studio time, and had to mix and re-mix at different locations in England
- it wasn't until after they finished writing that Geddy realized that the songs were in registers that required him to sing higher and harder than he ever had.
- Hemispheres was too long for them to record and get on a single piece of tape in one take.

Permanent Waves:
- recorded back in the motherland... even if it was in Quebec.
- Freewill only hit 103 on the Billboard charts; The Spirit of Radio - 55
- TSOR was taken from the tagline of local radio station, 102.1 CFNY (now known as "The Edge", and playing a 'new rock' format)
- working title of the album was Waveforms
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #312 on: October 18, 2014, 04:11:16 PM »
My one story from this period pretty much centers on the ingestion of non-tobacco and I know that direct references are frowned upon here at DTF, but this is the story.  Mods can delete it if they feel it's inappropriate.  Also, it's pretty long.  You have been warned.

I was a Music major at Michigan State University, as was my roommate.  The two of us, plus another of my good friends, had scored tickets see to Rush on March 15 in Detroit.  Elsewhere on these boards, I've shared the tragic story of why I did not graduate with a degree in Music, but the events of this story factor into it.  Basically, I had an audition the following morning at 8:00, before the panel who would decide whether or not I would continue as a Music Education major.  They would not allow me to reschedule the audition, and I wasn't going to miss seeing Rush, so I just faced the fact that I would be seeing a concert in Detroit, driving home whenever, and attempting to audition the following morning.  I had already become quite disenchanted with the College of Music at Michigan State.  I wanted to be a band director.  I can play every instrument, winds, brass, even percussion, and my favorite teacher from high school was our band director.  Anyway, "to express yourself through an ensemble, you must first be able to express yourself as a virtuoso upon your chosen instrument" was what they told me, and I had to choose a major and minor instrument.  I liked saxophone, but there was only one sax professor, Dr. Forger, and he was so busy that he only had time for four students.  So basically, in a school of 45,000 students, there could be only four saxophone majors, and I had to audition to be one of them.  I had to beat at least one of his current students.

We were college freshmen, had all been to Detroit before, but never on our own like this, always with our families on trips and stuff.  So a road trip to Detroit to see Rush, the three of us, was a major event.  The afternoon of the show, we got ahold of some non-tobacco.  We weren't sure how long it would take us to get there, but we were going into the heart of Detroit, and also knew that by then we'd all be pretty stoned and might get lost, so we allowed three or four hours.  We figured if we got there early, fine, we could check out the town a bit, get something to eat, whatever.

We rolled several before leaving the dorm.  Many, many.  It was a weekday, so traffic on the highway to Detroit was light and we did in fact get there hours before the show was to start.  For those who are unfamiliar with the geography, Detroit is basically on the Canadian border; Michigan and Ontario are separated by the Detroit River.  You can cross over the river via The Ambassador Bridge, or drive under it via The Windsor Tunnel.  As we were driving around downtown Detroit, wasted, checking out the scenery, we'd pass signs saying "Tunnel to Canada" or "Bridge to Canada" with an arrow telling you which way to turn at the next intersection.  With two hours to kill, "Let's go to Canada!"  Over and back, just to do it.  Sure, why not?  What could go wrong?

We decided on the tunnel, because the bridge might be too freaky because we were so high.  In the tunnel, one of us (I honestly don't remember who) said "Let's burn one in the tunnel!"  Yeah!  This is so cool, we're smoking one in the tunnel!

The sign up ahead said "All Vehicles Must Stop For Customs".  OH SHIT!  Yeah, we hadn't thought about that.  We rolled all the windows down (like that would help at this point) and quickly got a story put together.  We're going to Toronto, I had friends there (which was true) and we were on Spring Break from MSU (which was close enough).  Okay.  We get to the gate, the man in the uniform leans in and asks where we're headed.  Chris the driver says "Toronto" at the same time my buddy Mitch in the back seat says "Toledo".  He puts a red card on the windshield and asks us to pull over for "further inspection".

They searched us, and didn't like what they found.  They searched the car, and found even more, and didn't like that, either.  They separated us and strip-searched us.  All we had was the non-tobacco.  We were all 18, but were still basically "stupid kids" and they threatened to call our parents and it worked, and we were scared.  We were in Canada, had crossed an international border with contraband, and among other things, could be charged with smuggling.  I personally came clean and told them the truth, that we were killing some time before a concert, but I really did have friends in Toronto, my dad was born there, and that we just wanted to visit Canada while we were so close.  I had no idea whether my friends would stick to the story or not, but at this point it didn't really matter.

Basically, they knew we were just stupid kids and not a threat to national security or anything, so they kept us long enough to scare the shit out of us, then sent us back to the United States.  They told us that we were welcome to visit Canada in the future, but please leave the illegal stuff at home.

We got to Cobo Hall and found our seats literally seconds before Max Webster came out.  We hadn't missed anything!  Max Webster were great, and of course Rush was amazing, as they always are.  The one thing I remembered was that there was a song on the radio at the time, "Battlescar" which was the two bands together, all seven of them (Webster had a keyboard player), and since they were touring together, it would make perfect sense for them to play that one song together.  But they didn't.  It was a Max Webster song, from their current album Universal Juveniles, and Webster played it by themselves.  They wasn't just disappointing, but seemed kinda dumb, a missed opportunity.  Rush was there, backstage, and could have joined them for the one song.  It would have been so cool.  But no.  Anyway, it was still a great concert.  Both bands were great.

We got back to East Lansing around 2:00 in the morning, so wired up that I couldn't sleep for a while, and it didn't help that I knew I had to get some sleep before my audition.  Didn't matter.  I sucked at the audition.  I was not going to beat out any of Dr. Forger's four current students, and thus ended my career as a Music Major at Michigan State University.

But it was a great concert.  Worth getting kicked out of the College of Music?  I wasn't gonna pass the audition anyway, so yeah.  Definitely worth it.  This is Rush we're talking about!

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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #313 on: October 18, 2014, 04:20:53 PM »
Awesome story Bob.  You definitely got a logically minded border official.  Such things are extinct these days.  No way an 18-year old you would get the same treatment today.  Thank your lucky stars.  That depending on how much you guys had, it could mean a lifetime ban... minimum 1-year for sure.
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Re: The History of Rush v. Discography Thread: Exit...Stage Left
« Reply #314 on: October 18, 2014, 04:27:46 PM »
Oh yeah, it definitely could have been much worse.  But this was 1981.  It was a simpler time.