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Ok, I started the murderous roulette theme at the end of my first roulette, and took the bloodshed to levels not seen since in my second roulette.  My third one I made the mistake of making people stick to one band.  But I learn.  A few years ago I got into strategic board games and Euro-styled board games, and I'm going to try to take some themes I picked up from them and apply them to a roulette.  Maybe some of my innovations will stick.

While I'm looking for new music, I want to have a little more fun with this because I have about 3 metric assloads (yes, that is now an official SI unit of measurement) of CD's.  So the first thing I'm going to do is not eliminate anyone.  If you are in, you are in to the end.

While I'm not going to have divisions, I want to take four people who I know well and know their musical tastes align very strongly with mine (Team Fogey, even if they are younger than me), and four people whose tastes I am less familiar with, or I think will provide me with music that Team Fogey won't send but I will still like (Team Wild Card).  I assign teams, because the teams aren't really playing against each other. Before signing up, take a look at my last.fm here https://www.last.fm/user/mrouser and see if you have 9 rounds worth of material.  If you do, keep reading.

So, how am I going to incorporate Euro-style games into a roulette?  First, there will be FIVE scoring aspects, of which two will be public, scoring from the other three will be completely hidden to other players.  The public scoring will be the traditional "how much did I like the song", scored from 1 to 8 based on ranking, with a bonus point going to the player whose song fits the round theme best in my opinion.  The first private scoring method is that along with your song, you are going to send me a secret parameter, and whichever song OTHER THAN THE ONE YOU SENT matches that parameter, that person gets bonus points, and the more parameters a song wins, the more bonus points it gets.  But you can't score on your own parameter, so if you say "shortest song", and end up sending the shortest song, the person with the second shortest song would get you point.  More on this later.  The second private method is to pick a song from a band on a secret list of 15 bands which I think cover a wide range of styles.  The last private method, and maybe the hardest to get, is what I call reversal points.  If you send me a song from an album that I either own or used to own and gave up on, AND I end up liking it, that's worth some cheddar.  To a lesser extent, if it is a band or from an album I listened to a before and you send me a song that makes me reconsider, that's worth at least some imitation cheddar.  The partially hidden score I am taking from games like "Lords of Waterdeep" and "Nightfall".

So, why should you keep your true score hidden?  Because there is going to be a system in place that allows the people in last and next last place to place a handicap on the player they feel they need to catch up to, which will most likely be the players in first and second place on the public score.  I already have picked handicaps the players can choose from, and each round I will introduce nastier ones the game progresses.  It should make things more fun.  The handicapping mechanism is taken from several games, but "Power Grid" is the first one that came to mind.

If you have any questions, post them in here and I'll answer them.
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I've no desire to join (especially after perusing your Last.fm), but I'm looking forward to following this one. The concepts you've got going here sound interesting.

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I'm in fo sho. Pretty sure I've got 9 bands in my arsenal.

I'm already confused as fuck on the rules, themes, scoring etc... But it can't be any less complicated than the systems I came up with.  :lol

I'll figure it out as we go.
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Yeah, too tired to read the rules right now, but I'm in.

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Put me in as a maybe. Just need to make sure I have enough material to send for 9 rounds that I feel confident in.
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What the hell, I'm in. I read the rules and quite frankly don't understand half of them but whatevs
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I'll give this a try. I think I understood the rules.

But, didn't you say that there are two public aspects, and then went on to name only one? Or is one of them the 1-8 points and the other the optional bonus point for the best theme fit?
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But, didn't you say that there are two public aspects, and then went on to name only two?

What.  :lol

I won't participate, but I'll follow this one.
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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I'm already confused as fuck on the rules, themes, scoring etc...

Take your geritol,  Chad.

Scrop, yes, the second one is the bonus for fitting the round theme.  Fitting the user supplied hidden themes is secret points.

Also, collusion (RJ and Chad) will be met with harsh reprisal.  Lonestar and jingle are on team Fogey.  Obfuscation is on team Wild Card if he decides to play.  Scrop, even though you are young, I think I know your tastes well and you might end up on team Fogey.  Not certain yet.
     

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Does Team Fogey have any more spots open? I think I could go nine rounds. Might need some music Viagra to get there though..
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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TAC is on Team Fogey.  I think Nekov and Scorp could go either way because I kind of feel like I know what you would send.  You both can play, I just hope I can find two more people who can shake things up for me, like Metty and kari (Ruben) did in my second roulette.  Dark Castle, get your ass in here.
     

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I feel like I'll be going in a wee bit over my head with this, but gawt damn it sign me up  :lol

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Just re-read the rules and I think I've got it.  Already conducting my listening research.

Question, doe the secret parameter have to be something that only one other participant can be awarded?  You used the example of shortest song - only one song can be the shortest obviously. What about a parameter like 'song from a debut album'. More than one song could qualify.
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I want to participate on this, if there's an available spot :biggrin:

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Lets see

Team Fogey: oldstar, jingle_grandpa, TAC (The Angry Coot), Necro (Nekov)

Team Wild Card: Obfuscation, Scrop, Dark Castle, Sacul

Obfuscation said he was a maybe, but its his until he relinquishes.  However, if someone wants to claim the backup spot go for it.  Still have to wait for DC to finish, so it might be a week or two.
     

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Wait are we supposed to send a song? Just any'll do?

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No, there will be themes, but they should be broad enough that people can find something in their library, so as much as I would like to have a "heavy and brutal as all fuck" round, I don't think that would be fair.  I'll get started when it is my turn, I don't want to rush people.  I just knew that you were on your next to last round and someone else was on final round, and I think the third one is pretty far along too.
     

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Ahhh, I getcha now. I dun goofed

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Oh man I love you for having all those Leprous scrobblings  :lol
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Put me in. Fuck it, if I do bad, I do bad.
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Dear lord I had forgotten how many bands you already know! I'll end up sending super obscure stuff or indie rock. I'm warning you from the get go  :lol
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I'ma probably end up sending something not even I have heard.
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Last time I try to participate in a roulette  :blush
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^ Who's this guy? He trying to get in this???
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Last time I try to participate in a roulette  :blush

Shit, I passed over your post this morning.  We can play with nine, I'll just score two songs the same each round.  Probably seven point level.
     

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I say we call Seneca "Uncle Albert" for this roulette.

Another question on the 'secret parameter' thing (though it's not like you answered my first question!).  Can it be something subjective... like 'song you'd be most likely to play during your weekly enema'.
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The secret parameter should be something I can pick either objectively or subjectively each round.  So "something from a debut album" would not work because everyone might send something from a later album.  It cuts down on research time on my part, and prevents collusion.  So 'song you'd be most likely to play during your weekly enema' would be ok if I tweeked it to 'song you'd be most likely to play if I had to have an enema'.
     

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ok, so at least one song has to be awarded a point from the secret parameter?  Because, I'm racking my brains to think of something objective amontstly 9 random songs, other than song length, that would be unique to have only have one qualifying song.  I'm not coming up with anything.
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I don't want to tell you how to do your job, but you could have choose something like best riff, most interesting drumming, or  waiting at the DMV.  Reread my post, I said objectively or subjectively; just make it something I could reasonably apply to 99.5% of songs (because there could always be some random outlier).
     

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I don't want to tell you how to do your job, but you could have choose something like best riff, most interesting drumming, or  waiting at the DMV.  Reread my post, I said objectively or subjectively; just make it something I could reasonably apply to 99.5% of songs (because there could always be some random outlier).

Well, wouldn't a good strategy be to offer a parameter that NO song got a point from?  Like, song with the word triskaidekaphobia in it.   :lol

I got it now... Every parameter will have one song earn a bonus point from it.  Assuming that parameters can't be reused, my spidey sense is telling me this could get difficult come the later rounds.  9 participants; 9 rounds; 81 different parameters we have to come up with.
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Some can get reused inadvertently.  Secret parameters will only be revealed to people when they win them and at the end of the game.