Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton

[BlobVanDam]

Pardon the self pimping, but I made a Doctor Who video that I think you guys would appreciate.
Lego Doctor Who - The Time of the Doctor

If you can help share the vid around other places on the interwebs, I'll give out free hugs or whatever.

[ariich]

That's fantastic Blob.

[Scorpion]

Blob, I love you. That taking off the bow tie was fantastic.

[BlobVanDam]

Blob, I love you.

I know you do, but what did you think of the video?
That's one of my favourite shots too. I like how that one turned out.

That's fantastic Blob.

Thanks ariich.

[Kotowboy]

I give it 12 out of 11  

[BlobVanDam]

I see what you did there......

[Zydar]

That was great, Blob!

[Mister Gold]

Pardon the self pimping, but I made a Doctor Who video that I think you guys would appreciate.
Lego Doctor Who - The Time of the Doctor

If you can help share the vid around other places on the interwebs, I'll give out free hugs or whatever.

I give it a 12 ou-

I give it 12 out of 11  

Oh goddamnit!



But seriously, great work, Blob!

[Kotowboy]

Pardon the self pimping, but I made a Doctor Who video that I think you guys would appreciate.
Lego Doctor Who - The Time of the Doctor

If you can help share the vid around other places on the interwebs, I'll give out free hugs or whatever.

I give it a 12 ou-

I give it 12 out of 11  

Oh goddamnit!

Sorry I actually changed it at the last second too. . .

[Kotowboy]

So, are we still calling Capaldi the 12th Doctor even with the inclusion of The War Doctor ?

I must watch that episode really. Just for Tom Baker if nothing else...

[Podaar]

Wait a minute...did he just pull a chicken leg out of his ass? 

Cool video, Blob!

[Heretic]

That ruled Blob! I'd love to see you do an self-written short episode with one of the Doctors and a one-off companion!

[BlobVanDam]

So, are we still calling Capaldi the 12th Doctor even with the inclusion of The War Doctor ?

I must watch that episode really. Just for Tom Baker if nothing else...

And also because it's one of the very best episodes of Doctor Who.
But yes, Capaldi is still the 12th Doctor. The point of saying he wasn't called The Doctor was supposed to be to maintain the current numbering system (even though they credit him as The War Doctor and don't say what he otherwise referred to himself as during the Time War). So Capaldi is the 12th one to carry the name of Doctor, but he's the 13th incarnation.
You will see a ton of arguing about it online, but they have officially said that Eccelston is still the 9th Doctor, Tennant is still the 10th Doctor etc.

Wait a minute...did he just pull a chicken leg out of his ass? 

Well no, it wasn't out of his ASS, it was supposed to be from the kidney area, since the original video had him mentioning the kidneys.

[hefdaddy42]

Pardon the self pimping, but I made a Doctor Who video that I think you guys would appreciate.
Lego Doctor Who - The Time of the Doctor

If you can help share the vid around other places on the interwebs, I'll give out free hugs or whatever.

lol

That was awesome, Blob!

[GentlemanofDread]

That episode was very schizophrenic for me, and I'm not sure I liked it at all.

[Mister Gold]

^ You mean Death in Heaven? Because I thought that was absolutely fantastic!

[Scorpion]

... I might have to revisit this one when I'm in a better mood, but it's left a bitter taste in my mouth like no other Moffat finale has ever done. Sure, there were some touching parts (that whole ending scene) but goddamn it, some of it was so cheesy. LOVE IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING

[BlobVanDam]

Overall I thought it was an excellent finale.
I wasn't too big on Missy doing it all for the Doctor, because that made the ending a bit too easy, and I was hoping for more explanation on how Missy escaped from Gallifrey. I'm guessing she stole a new TARDIS and escaped from the bubble universe somehow, to set up the plan and such, but they didn't talk too much about that. I'm also assuming that Missy beamed out to her TARDIS at the end, rather than being obliterated. The blue effect looked more like her beam out to me.
And Danny saving the day by being the Cyberman with emotions was too predictable and obvious.

The ending with both Clara and The Doctor pretending everything had worked out well was sad. 

The other ending with Santa Claus was........... hm. I'll decide that come the Christmas special, but it seems it will continue the tradition of hammy Christmas episodes.

[masterthes]

Yeah, Missy's still alive. No way Moffat would have the stones to kill off the Master. I will miss Osgood though. She would have made a fine companion. I wonder what Clara was really going to say to the Doctor? Overall, very satisfied with the finale. Season 8 is so far my second favorite season (4 is still the best them)

[BlobVanDam]

Yeah, Missy's still alive. No way Moffat would have the stones to kill off the Master.

You can't kill off any Doctor Who villian, even if you tried. At any time in the future someone can just bring them back with a quick explanation.
I just watched the Doctor Who Extra for this episode, and they were joking that The Master would always get definitively killed, then come back the next time with the explanation "I escaped".
Heck, in The Last of the Timelords, he died without regenerating, and then his body was burned, yet HE CAME BACK!

I'm pretty sure Missy wasn't killed, but instead teleported out, perhaps with an automatic failsafe for this very occurence, since she created these Cybermen. They used the same blue effect for her "death" as they did when she teleported off the plane. The Cyberman shots didn't cause that kind of damage, they made big flamey fireballs earlier in the episode.

[Mister Gold]

Yeah, Missy's still alive. No way Moffat would have the stones to kill off the Master.

You can't kill off any Doctor Who villian, even if you tried. At any time in the future someone can just bring them back with a quick explanation.
I just watched the Doctor Who Extra for this episode, and they were joking that The Master would always get definitively killed, then come back the next time with the explanation "I escaped".
Heck, in The Last of the Timelords, he died without regenerating, and then his body was burned, yet HE CAME BACK!

I'm pretty sure Missy wasn't killed, but instead teleported out, perhaps with an automatic failsafe for this very occurence, since she created these Cybermen. They used the same blue effect for her "death" as they did when she teleported off the plane. The Cyberman shots didn't cause that kind of damage, they made big flamey fireballs earlier in the episode.

It gets better than that... in at least one instance, the Master's response was simply: "I'm indestructible, the whole universe knows this."

But yeah, we're definitely seeing Missy again at some point. Easily the best Master since Delgado, possibly even the best Master ever. Michelle Gomez knocked it out of the ballpark and her chemistry with Peter Capaldi is sublime.

[ariich]

I'm pretty sure Missy wasn't killed, but instead teleported out

I don't think that's even in question - the teleport was blue (which she had at the end) and the obliteration was orange. So, yeah she obviously got away.

Overall I thought the episode was fantastic. Missy was brilliantly mad and incredibly entertaining. And the Cybermen were the creepiest they've been for ages, probably since Patrick Troughton! That scene with Clara walking through the graveyard and then the Cybermen climbing out was brilliant.

The ending had some lovely stuff, but felt a little awkwardly unresolved. I imagine it'll be tied up in the Christmas special though.

[BlobVanDam]

The ending had some lovely stuff, but felt a little awkwardly unresolved. I imagine it'll be tied up in the Christmas special though.

There's also the rumour that Clara is leaving with the Christmas special, and I've also seen people point out clues that Clara may be pregnant with Danny's kid (Danny Pink apparently has descendants in Listen, and there are some hints in her opening phone conversation with Danny in Dark Water).
So it will be interesting to see how she fits into the Christmas episode.

My only problem with the Cybermen is that they already look too much like Iron Man, and now they even fly like him! But I thought it was a great story for the Cybermen.

[Aefenwelg]

Did anybody notice that the intro supported Clara's cold opening claim that she was the Doctor?

Jenna was billed before Capaldi. (It's always been Doctor first, anybody else second)

and

It showed her eyes instead of Capaldi's.

[BlobVanDam]

Did anybody notice that the intro supported Clara's cold opening claim that she was the Doctor?

Jenna was billed before Capaldi. (It's always been Doctor first, anybody else second)

and

It showed her eyes instead of Capaldi's.

I sorta skim through the credits, so I didn't notice the names, but I did notice her eyes. I thought that was a humorous little touch.

[Kotowboy]

: Great performance by Michelle Gomez. Had me laughing out loud.

Not the most satisfactory ending but never mind.

[Scorpion]

So I enjoyed it a lot more on the second time viewing. I dunno, maybe I just wasn't in the mood yesterday, who knows. It's still not my favourite finale, and the setup in Dark Water is still slightly better than Death in Heaven, but it is incredibly satisfying. This might now be my favourite nuWho season/series.

1. Listen
2. Mummy on the Orient Express
3. Dark Water/Death in Heave
4. Flatline
5. Kill the Moon
6. Deep Breath
7. Into the Dalek
8. Time Heist
9. The Caretaker
10. Robot of Sherwood
11. In the Forest of the Night

[BlobVanDam]

I'd probably rank them like this-

Listen
Flatline
Time Heist
Into the Dalek
Deep Breath
Mummy on the Orient Express
The Caretaker

Kill the Moon
Robot of Sherwood
In the Forest of the Night


I've omitted the two part finale, as I find it too hard to rank it against single episodes, and I'm not 100% on where I'd place it anyway. Maybe after I rewatch it I'll have a better idea. Overall this has been a strong season, and possibly my favourite so far.

[Mister Gold]

I'm going to have to watch the series over again before I do any sort of final rankings, though I reckon the two-part finale would be at the top of the list. On any account, this is easily my favorite series of the modern show to date.

[adameastment]

So I enjoyed it a lot more on the second time viewing. I dunno, maybe I just wasn't in the mood yesterday, who knows. It's still not my favourite finale, and the setup in Dark Water is still slightly better than Death in Heaven, but it is incredibly satisfying. This might now be my favourite nuWho season/series.

1. Listen
2. Mummy on the Orient Express
3. Dark Water/Death in Heave
4. Flatline
5. Kill the Moon
6. Deep Breath
7. Into the Dalek
8. Time Heist
9. The Caretaker
10. Robot of Sherwood
11. In the Forest of the Night

I don't get why people rate Robot of Sherwood so low! I thought that was one of the best of the series, and that's coming from me - a guy who usually hates episodes set in the past. How come you don't rate it highly?

[Mister Gold]

So I enjoyed it a lot more on the second time viewing. I dunno, maybe I just wasn't in the mood yesterday, who knows. It's still not my favourite finale, and the setup in Dark Water is still slightly better than Death in Heaven, but it is incredibly satisfying. This might now be my favourite nuWho season/series.

1. Listen
2. Mummy on the Orient Express
3. Dark Water/Death in Heave
4. Flatline
5. Kill the Moon
6. Deep Breath
7. Into the Dalek
8. Time Heist
9. The Caretaker
10. Robot of Sherwood
11. In the Forest of the Night

I don't get why people rate Robot of Sherwood so low! I thought that was one of the best of the series, and that's coming from me - a guy who usually hates episodes set in the past. How come you don't rate it highly?

For several reasons, personally. For starters, the story itself isn't just an average Doctor Who episode; it feels more like a parody of an average Doctor Who episode. It's a story idea that feels childish and something that practically anyone could have come up with. Also,as others will undoubtedly comment, the ending with the Golden Arrow was also downright ridiculous.

Most importantly though, the script itself (which I have read) is incredibly dull. The final episode actually surprised me in its ability to be entertaining because it was elevated by legitimately good acting from its cast and it was relatively well-directed. That being said, most any episode this series can lay claim to the same thing and also have the advantage of a good script too.

Not so with Robot of Sherwood. The key issue with that episode is that it was written quite weakly and despite the incredible aids that came in the form of Capaldi and Co.'s acting and the directing, it was still an ultimately weak story.

[lonestar]

Blob, any doubts of whether or not I ever wanted to sleep with you evaporated with that video. Excellent work my man!!!

[masterthes]

Blob, that was amazing. Well done sir!

[Onno]

Blob, that was utterly fantastic. Hats off to you, sir.

I watched the whole two-part finale today. Loved it. Don't really know to say what else, though I hope Clara gets some great last moments in the Christmas Special if that really is her last episode. Michelle Gomez was a fantastic Master. Even though the ending was a bit open, I can wait till the Christmas Special. It's really cool that Nick Frost is playing Santa 

[Kotowboy]

Blob, that was utterly fantastic. Hats off to you, sir.

I watched the whole two-part finale today. Loved it. Don't really know to say what else, though I hope Clara gets some great last moments in the Christmas Special if that really is her last episode. Michelle Gomez was a fantastic Master. Even though the ending was a bit open, I can wait till the Christmas Special. It's really cool that Nick Frost is playing Santa 

I couldnt place the voice. i thought it was Bill Bailey at first.